Fremantle robbed

[johnnyhoward]

Unbelievable stuff.

The siren went and we should have lost by a point - however we do have the 2 points and I hope a court decision can't change that.

Baker should have complained of cramps and gave the kick to someone like Gehrig to give us more chance of winning, but in the end I'm glad Baker missed - imagine the furore if we actually won?

 

[Rob]

This mainly has to do with the fact that time keeping is so difficult in this game, this would never happen in a good sport like Soccer.....

Holy s**t, if it was like soccer, the maggots would have just blown their whistle as soon as St Kilda were in front, even if it took 10 minutes.

 

[Shell]

Channel nine, just now

Freo lodging an official protest or something..

Watch this space i guess..

 

[m0nty_]

Connolly has put in an official protest, 2nd against 1st.

 

[JuddyisGod]

Demetriou is all too happy to tear into a team or an official that he thinks are boring or wrong. How about he lets loose on his own idiotic employees, the umpires.

 

[YOTC]

I think I heard the siren finally sound when the original Baker kick was in the air heading towards the points.
I'm not sure the siren sounded when Schammer claims to have heard it.
But, the questions that now have to be asked are:
i) how accurate was the Ch 9 clocks
ii) if they are accurate, then the siren should have sounded 1 sec after the ball was bounced (it was about 10 seconds).
iii) who are the timekeepers - are they one per club or one/two "AFL neutral" people... and are they from Melb or locals?

In the recent years in all the games i have watched the clocks have never been out by more than 3 seconds, why in this game, in this very quarter would the clocks be out by more than the 8 seconds St.Kilda required to get the ball to baker to score the point.

 

[- PC -]

If this happened to my rivalry team port I would still be backing them.

I would still feel dirty about supporting them

 

[The Fireman]

Actually, I know who it was. Fire. North fan. Anyway, carry on with your pathetic lack of sportsmanship.

me?

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Its yet to air in Adelaide. What were the commentators saying?

 

[Rough_Edges]

And Joffaboy the thing is they sitll owe us 2 more points.

Karma at its finest.

 

[eddiesmith]

Can He? There's nothing in the laws of the game that allows the Emergency umpire to rule on how a match ended. Only ANY FIELD umpire (assuming that the Emergency umpire is not a Field umpire at the time, which technically he is not) can rule on the end of the game.



But technically, when Baker took his 2nd kick long after the siren sounded (we think), Connolly was on the ground arguing the point with his players from a distance, then had to leace the playing arena while the kick was taken.

Not really, anytime a kick is taken after the siren everyone is on the ground

 

[goDees22]

Surely the decision will be reversed.What a joke, this is the AFL, not a bloody league somewhere in the bush, the dickwad doing the siren shouldve just kept blowing it over and over again, as others have said, and how the fook did the umpires call the game as 'over' after bakers kick. There was clearly no siren. Umpires are, and always have been, a bunch of dip losers that the AFL finds in the gutter drinking cheap wine. If i were a freo fan, i would've ran out on the ground and spat on the umps face.What a joke

 

[BarcaRulz]

Apparently the AFL have someone down there to asses the situation.. He is talking to the Umpires (pointless, they are imcompetent) the Coaches, and the players, as well as replaying the tapes.. They will say something about this later on tonight..

They better award Freo the 4 ing points!!

 

[sherb]

iii) who are the timekeepers - are they one per club or one/two "AFL neutral" people... and are they from Melb or locals?

The timekeepers are AFL appointed and are on the AFL Independent Timekeepers' panel.

The days of each club supplying a timekeeper ended about 7 years ago.

 

[Tuco]

I think I heard the siren finally sound when the original Baker kick was in the air heading towards the points.
I'm not sure the siren sounded when Schammer claims to have heard it.
But, the questions that now have to be asked are:
i) how accurate was the Ch 9 clocks
ii) if they are accurate, then the siren should have sounded 1 sec after the ball was bounced (it was about 10 seconds).
iii) who are the timekeepers - are they one per club or one/two "AFL neutral" people... and are they from Melb or locals?

As I understand it the broadcasters now use the actual timekeepers' clock...that's why the timekeeping error was so apparent in the Syd Collingwood game last year when the clock suddenly lost time.

 

[The Dice Man]

Can He? There's nothing in the laws of the game that allows the Emergency umpire to rule on how a match ended. Only ANY FIELD umpire (assuming that the Emergency umpire is not a Field umpire at the time, which technically he is not) can rule on the end of the game.

I guess it could come down to that.

The other possability is what was with the other field umpire who was away from the contest running down from teh other end of teh field and getting involved?

He looked to me as if he'd heard something perhaps? He certainly had something important to say to teh officicating umpire.

No dount teh AFL will take all options in, put em on the table and work out the best way they can appease teh situation. Hopefully that means giving Freo their deserved win.


P.s. Id only been home from work for 5 minutes and put the TV on... a set or 2 of traffic lights and Id have missed it.

 

[Vandal]

Ive looked throught this whole thread and I dont think this has been mentioned.
The siren is supposed to blow until acknowledged by an umpire, so if the siren did go off, why did it stop before an umpire heard it?
I think the timekeepers are as much at fault as the umpires here.

 

[Kingpin]

The bottom line is: AFL in Tasmania is now a huge problem.

No it's not. It's the ordinary siren that's the problem. Stick a decent one in, and it wouldn't be a problem.

Freo launching an official protest with the AFL over the result by the way.

 

[Robbie]

Because to my understanding, emergency umpires are only empowered to report on-field reportable incidents that the field umpires may have missed. However, I cannot find anything in the 2005 Laws of the Game that suggests one way or the other.

Fair enough, thanks mate.

So question remains, when does whoever the umpire was that called it (Kennedy apparently) claim he heard the siren. He can't call it until he hears it, if he didn't hear it when everyone else did (before the bounce), when did he hear it?

Are we going to get umpire claims he heard siren vs timekeeper saying he didn't blow the siren again?

 

[JuddyisGod]

These umpires will never be allowed in Subi again. Every game they umpire for the rest of their career they will be copping a spray from someone in the crowd about this, whether it's a Freo game or not.

 

[kazz227]

WTF was that. Was strange watching it, seeing the Dockers jumping around before the bounce and then looking around gonig WTF. Connoly was fuming.

Seemed like a normal Sookmantle game! Sooky players jumping around and CC fuming......What made today any different?

Umpires?

 

[kidstyler]

You sook like your coach.

Remember last year?

Hurts doesn't it? At least you got 2 points.....

lol we won the game last year u cry baby!

look at all the non-saint fans siding with us! who is on your side over this di ckcheese

EDIT : we even have eagles supporters on our side !!!!!

 

[irish_setanta]

Channel nine, just now

Freo lodging an official protest or something..

Watch this space i guess..

Seen that and afl also investigating, anderson to release statement later on today, do the right thing and give freo the 4 points.

 

[Frodo]

Apparently the AFL have someone down there to asses the situation.. He is talking to the Umpires (pointless, they are imcompetent) the Coaches, and the players, as well as replaying the tapes.. They will say something about this later on tonight..

They better award Freo the 4 ing points!!

All they can conclude is that the umpires didn't hear the siren and didn't end the game. The problem is that the siren was not loud enough. The umpires appear to have acte to the letter of the laws.

 

[JuddyisGod]

John the cameraman must have been in charge of the siren.