Kouta man 43
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if we drew with port at aami we should be able to win freo at subiaco.
What do you think?
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freo? at subi? why not?
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We'll win.
I watched most of the Tigers/Freo match yesterday and like most others, I struggle to remember such a deplorable effort from an AFL side.
We should thrash them on current form, however, we all know they are a different side over at Subi.
In recent years, we have usually got towelled up in the midfield due to a lack of legs on the big ground. This year we've got a lot more pace then we've been used to and a win is definitely a strong possibility.
We should thrash them on current form, however, we all know they are a different side over at Subi.
In recent years, we have usually got towelled up in the midfield due to a lack of legs on the big ground. This year we've got a lot more pace then we've been used to and a win is definitely a strong possibility.
I think it is a bit harsh to say that Fremantle are out of form. They could have been 3-1 instead of 1-3. Arguably they were the better team against St Kilda and they were winning for the first three quarters against the Eagles. They played one bad game and a part of that could be due to the fact that they would have been a bit unsettled with the late withdrawls of 3 key players. They also don't have a good record at the MCG. Expect this week to be a different Fremantle. They know they have to win this game. Carlton will also go out there and try their hardest as they do week in week out. I honestly think that this is a game that will be excruciatingly hard to tip. It could go either way.
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It will be a huge game for both clubs. A loss for either team, especially Freo & they will find it hard to make the 8 on what seems to be a fairly even comp this year. Watching Freo a fair bit, being from the West, they have a tendency to bounce back at home after copping a mother of a hiding the previous week so we need to be at it from the start
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It will be a huge game for both clubs. A loss for either team, especially Freo & they will find it hard to make the 8 on what seems to be a fairly even comp this year. Watching Freo a fair bit, being from the West, they have a tendency to bounce back at home after copping a mother of a hiding the previous week so we need to be at it from the start
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Well - Robert Walls has done it again. 
Just like he did in the lead up to the Collingwood game (Tarant article) he has given Freo and Pavlich and Peter Bell all the amunition they need for this weekend. He's come out and basically said that they are CR.AP!
Sometimes I just wish he'd shut the fu.ck up! He's supposed to be a carlton man isn't he!?!?
Thanks alot Wallsy
Pavlich a huge disappointment
By Robert "WTF" Walls
April 19, 2005
Fremantle is in serious trouble. It came to Melbourne at the weekend as a warm favourite and left ice cold.
I went to the MCG on Sunday expecting big things from the purple haze. The Dockers' coach has told us to feel this way. But not once in their 10-year history have I seen them live play well. After the heavy loss to the Tigers, I wrote these things: "Selfish", "indirect", "uninspiring", "don't dare to win", "can't win finals".
The player I most wanted to see was Matthew Pavlich. Some regard him as a superstar, but he isn't. He is not in the same league as Jonathan Brown, Nick Riewoldt, Barry Hall or Warren Tredrea.
For years, Pavlich has been protected. Given easy midfield gigs. This year, he has been positioned rightfully at centre half-forward. At 192 centimetres and 100 kilograms, he is the second biggest player on his team's list. It is time he led from the front.
On Sunday, Pavlich was a huge disappointment. Not only did he not play well, he accepted it. His opponent was Ray Hall, a tall, no-more-than-handy spare-parts Tiger defender. After taking two marks in the first eight minutes of the game, Pavlich did not touch the ball for the next 60 minutes of play. He chose not to be involved, and that's simply not good enough.
If his first lead was ignored, there was no urgency to double back and go again. There were some high risky floating balls that marking attempts could have been made at. Had he not marked the ball, Pavlich's size would have at least shaken a few Tigers, but no, these opportunities were let pass.
Midfield teammates Josh Carr and Paul Hasleby were driven crazy by relentless taggers. A Pavlich hip-and-shoulder on their opponents would have helped. But no. There were 25 centre bounces. That's 25 opportunities for Pavlich to sprint in off the line to impose his will in a physical way. Again, no.
The most damning aspect of Pavlich's game, and a lot of his teammates', was that at game's end, he wasn't spent. He easily could have played another four quarters. The Dockers don't dare to win. They froze a couple of weeks ago in Tasmania to let the Saints sneak a one-point win.
Captain Peter Bell spends far too much time in the back half receiving easy ball. Too many Dockers rate their performance on possessions accumulated. In the third quarter on Sunday, the Dockers rattled up 99 disposals. The team scored one point.
Tiger coach Terry Wallace, after the game, said this of the Dockers: "With guys put behind the ball, you can't win like that." He's right. Overall, the Dockers had more kicks and marks than Richmond. But they kicked only seven goals and lost by 48 points. At the moment, they are going nowhere.
In the interests of the team, Pavlich should have been moved in an effort to get something out of him. A stint in the ruck or at full-back to relieve the undersized Shane Parker, who was being mauled by Matthew Richardson, were obvious changes.
Paul Medhurst only plays out of a forward pocket. He has become one-dimensional. The coach needs to try him elsewhere. And Jeff Farmer's undisciplined acts continue to be tolerated.
On Sunday, this team played without any spirit. It seems some players may be getting preferential treatment. If so, no wonder morale appears low.
This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/04/18/1113676704674.html
Just like he did in the lead up to the Collingwood game (Tarant article) he has given Freo and Pavlich and Peter Bell all the amunition they need for this weekend. He's come out and basically said that they are CR.AP!
Sometimes I just wish he'd shut the fu.ck up! He's supposed to be a carlton man isn't he!?!?
Thanks alot Wallsy
Pavlich a huge disappointment
By Robert "WTF" Walls
April 19, 2005
Fremantle is in serious trouble. It came to Melbourne at the weekend as a warm favourite and left ice cold.
I went to the MCG on Sunday expecting big things from the purple haze. The Dockers' coach has told us to feel this way. But not once in their 10-year history have I seen them live play well. After the heavy loss to the Tigers, I wrote these things: "Selfish", "indirect", "uninspiring", "don't dare to win", "can't win finals".
The player I most wanted to see was Matthew Pavlich. Some regard him as a superstar, but he isn't. He is not in the same league as Jonathan Brown, Nick Riewoldt, Barry Hall or Warren Tredrea.
For years, Pavlich has been protected. Given easy midfield gigs. This year, he has been positioned rightfully at centre half-forward. At 192 centimetres and 100 kilograms, he is the second biggest player on his team's list. It is time he led from the front.
On Sunday, Pavlich was a huge disappointment. Not only did he not play well, he accepted it. His opponent was Ray Hall, a tall, no-more-than-handy spare-parts Tiger defender. After taking two marks in the first eight minutes of the game, Pavlich did not touch the ball for the next 60 minutes of play. He chose not to be involved, and that's simply not good enough.
If his first lead was ignored, there was no urgency to double back and go again. There were some high risky floating balls that marking attempts could have been made at. Had he not marked the ball, Pavlich's size would have at least shaken a few Tigers, but no, these opportunities were let pass.
Midfield teammates Josh Carr and Paul Hasleby were driven crazy by relentless taggers. A Pavlich hip-and-shoulder on their opponents would have helped. But no. There were 25 centre bounces. That's 25 opportunities for Pavlich to sprint in off the line to impose his will in a physical way. Again, no.
The most damning aspect of Pavlich's game, and a lot of his teammates', was that at game's end, he wasn't spent. He easily could have played another four quarters. The Dockers don't dare to win. They froze a couple of weeks ago in Tasmania to let the Saints sneak a one-point win.
Captain Peter Bell spends far too much time in the back half receiving easy ball. Too many Dockers rate their performance on possessions accumulated. In the third quarter on Sunday, the Dockers rattled up 99 disposals. The team scored one point.
Tiger coach Terry Wallace, after the game, said this of the Dockers: "With guys put behind the ball, you can't win like that." He's right. Overall, the Dockers had more kicks and marks than Richmond. But they kicked only seven goals and lost by 48 points. At the moment, they are going nowhere.
In the interests of the team, Pavlich should have been moved in an effort to get something out of him. A stint in the ruck or at full-back to relieve the undersized Shane Parker, who was being mauled by Matthew Richardson, were obvious changes.
Paul Medhurst only plays out of a forward pocket. He has become one-dimensional. The coach needs to try him elsewhere. And Jeff Farmer's undisciplined acts continue to be tolerated.
On Sunday, this team played without any spirit. It seems some players may be getting preferential treatment. If so, no wonder morale appears low.
This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/04/18/1113676704674.html
Lol. I doubt giving them ammunition will do anything. They'll still play a soft brand of football. It's in their nature.
Yeh we can win, but they will definetly play better at Subi.
G'day everyone ,my first post, I wanted to post a scathing attack last week ...but I thought better get off on the right foot and post a nice comment.
There is no reason we can't beat Freo this week! Being a life long Carlton supporter,I know our biggest enemy is expectation.
If we can go over ,have a real dip,get on the scoreboard early,we shouldn't have any problems.And maybe I'll forget the loss against "The Filth"
Cheers
There is no reason we can't beat Freo this week! Being a life long Carlton supporter,I know our biggest enemy is expectation.
If we can go over ,have a real dip,get on the scoreboard early,we shouldn't have any problems.And maybe I'll forget the loss against "The Filth"
Cheers
Im just hoping that Sandilands is dropped. Not because i don't like the guy. He is one of my favourite players. But i can see, like most, that he's not ready yet. He can't mark and isn't strong enough to counter his immobility.
If CC considers Carltons ruck stocks average i think Sandilands will be dropped. Johnson looked good across half-forward and can spend sometime in the middle when longmuir is tired.
80% Longmuir, 20% Johnson in the ruck. Sandilands to work on marking, tackling, shepherding in the WAFL. Also work on tapping to advantage and punching the damn thing forward.
I think Sandilands would get the run around by French or Deluca. Longmuir is a better match for either. Johnson would go alright against deluca. But probably be outmuscled by French.
If CC considers Carltons ruck stocks average i think Sandilands will be dropped. Johnson looked good across half-forward and can spend sometime in the middle when longmuir is tired.
80% Longmuir, 20% Johnson in the ruck. Sandilands to work on marking, tackling, shepherding in the WAFL. Also work on tapping to advantage and punching the damn thing forward.
I think Sandilands would get the run around by French or Deluca. Longmuir is a better match for either. Johnson would go alright against deluca. But probably be outmuscled by French.
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Oh bloody hell
Harsh. He's played well so far this year and he had one bad game on the weekend.Kooley said:
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And the prophecy comes true.
Not trying to rub the loss in. You guys probably could have won with straighter kicking. It looks like your back on even terms with the rest of the competition after having been dealt a harsh blow by the AFL (losing your picks). Just shy a KP defender or two.Hopefully Sandilands stays in the WAFL for next week against Melbourne. Longmuir and Johnson are a better combination at the moment.
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