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[Pride of lions]

Qld. Gov Media Statement

World-class Woolloongabba revitalisation kicks off

So demolition starting in 2025! Doesn’t allow much time for construction of a decent replacement ground for the Lions games. Sounds like Metricon will be the likely option to me. It looks like we are going to be shafted for years.

 

[HereIam86]

Statement from the club about The Gabba redevelopmen.

Club Statement - Gabba Redevelopment

The Brisbane Lions welcome today’s Gabba redevelopment update by the Deputy Premier.

www.lions.com.au

 

[Viceregal]

Anything about access provided for drop in pitch vs a permanent pitch in the middle?

 

[weevil]

I doubt this will go ahead. The current 2700 million cost (sute to blow out)has to be funded 100% by Qlders. The LNP are yet to show their hand but the politics says with shaky support for the Project and massive pressures on Emergency and Ambulance services the LNP are highly likely to go with a revamp and additional spend on Health. The Election is Oct 24. Watch this space.

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It's great for cheap political point scoring but the costs are not comparable, money spent will be largely offset by the games themselves.

I very, very, very seriously doubt the LNP would pull out. They would do colossal damage to the state's reputation if they did. Would make the Dan Andrews manoeuvre look like a walk in the park in comparison.

They are laying low because they will not stop it, but they know it is hurting the government.

The LNP will be hoping they will still be in power when the games are on so they can bask in the glory. Because 99.9% of the population bitches about these things all the way up to the opening ceremonies when they suddenly decide they are the best things ever.

 

[M Malice]

Anything about access provided for drop in pitch vs a permanent pitch in the middle?

IIRC Jacob Anson during an interview I think on The Roar Deal a year or so ago said there will be an ability to do a drop in pitch.... and that was the Lions preference.

 

[M Malice]

It's great for cheap political point scoring but the costs are not comparable, money spent will be largely offset by the games themselves.

I very, very, very seriously doubt the LNP would pull out. They would do colossal damage to the state's reputation if they did. Would make the Dan Andrews manoeuvre look like a walk in the park in comparison.

They are laying low because they will not stop it, but they know it is hurting the government.

The LNP will be hoping they will still be in power when the games are on so they can bask in the glory. Because 99.9% of the population bitches about these things all the way up to the opening ceremonies when they suddenly decide they are the best things ever.

Yer, no way the Gabba rebuild wont go ahead.

I thought these type of Mega Infrastructure projects... not just the Stadium but all the way to Southbank/Roma Street, bridges across Main/Stanley Streets, high rise apartments etc are guaranteed no matter who is in government, it is a Gabba precinct masterplan not just the stadium.

 

[weevil]

Yer, no way the Gabba rebuild wont go ahead.

I thought these type of Mega Infrastructure projects... not just the Stadium but all the way to Southbank/Roma Street, bridges across Main/Stanley Streets, high rise apartments etc are guaranteed no matter who is in government, it is a Gabba precinct masterplan not just the stadium.

Yeah, any new government coming into power at the early stages of something like this will make a bunch of changes but more importantly, make a massive song and dance about how much better their new plans are than the previous government's.

It's all just window dressing and political theatre.

 

[Dalions]

Yeah, any new government coming into power at the early stages of something like this will make a bunch of changes but more importantly, make a massive song and dance about how much better their new plans are than the previous government's.

It's all just window dressing and political theatre.

With ultimately not much change at all.

 

[mighty_lions]

I doubt this will go ahead. The current 2700 million cost (sute to blow out)has to be funded 100% by Qlders. The LNP are yet to show their hand but the politics says with shaky support for the Project and massive pressures on Emergency and Ambulance services the LNP are highly likely to go with a revamp and additional spend on Health. The Election is Oct 24. Watch this space.

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its 1 million percent going ahead

 

[BuntonRules]

it must be official - it is in the Guardian

Brisbane’s Gabba to be demolished after 2025 Ashes and rebuilt as part of ‘East Bank’ precinct

 

[M Malice]

its 1 million percent going ahead

Are you the real mighty lions?

 

[Section 5]

More detail information from this 14-page brochure. Link below.

"The Gabba Stadium Redevelopment Project Validation Report Summary"

https://www.statedevelopment.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0027/85356/gabba-stadium-redevelopment-project-validation-report.pdf

Four options were considered. Option 1 was chosen.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

It was clearly the only possible choice from the four options presented a few months ago

 

[Section 5]

Any handyman on BF that would like to try their hand.
At least this part starts in a couple of weeks.

Microsoft Forms

forms.office.com

 

[briztoon]

I doubt this will go ahead. The current 2700 million cost (sute to blow out)has to be funded 100% by Qlders. The LNP are yet to show their hand but the politics says with shaky support for the Project and massive pressures on Emergency and Ambulance services the LNP are highly likely to go with a revamp and additional spend on Health. The Election is Oct 24. Watch this space.

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Since when have the LNP increased spending on health?

 

[wantok]

its 1 million percent going ahead

Will go ahead as 500 million or so refurb.Games will go ahead of course. Leftover 2200 million spent on Health. Politics (and common sense)will prevail.

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[Section 5]

I doubt this will go ahead. The current 2700 million cost (sute to blow out)has to be funded 100% by Qlders. The LNP are yet to show their hand but the politics says with shaky support for the Project and massive pressures on Emergency and Ambulance services the LNP are highly likely to go with a revamp and additional spend on Health. The Election is Oct 24. Watch this space.

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The LNP know this will be good for the citys future.
They are just doing what the Lib/Nat have been doing for many years. That is being negative about anything.
If/when they get into power, they will say something like it is too late in the planning stage and we don't want to get international backlash over cancelling The Gabba project. Being sued by the successful tender etc etc.

However, the fact is The IOC have signed a binding contract with Queensland State Government, The BCC, The Australian Olympic Committee
They could go down the Victorian path and pay a compensation fine. That was $380 million for a much smaller Commonwealth Games.
The Olympic compensation would be much greater and a stupid thing to do anyhow.

https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/Olympic-Games/Brisbane-2032/Host-Contract/Host-City-Contract-2032-Principles.pdf

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Too many people with agendas keep talking about the cost.
Those same people conveniently omit the income and i am not even talking about tourism.
Also, no mention of how it should change the city for the better as has been outlaid.
The Brisbane games is the first under a new IOC formula.
Most notable being 85% of the venues have to be already in place.
A very long lead in time of 11 years so budgets can be handled fairly well.
The contribution from the IOC pretty much covers The Gabba costs see below.
The remainder venues are 50/50 with the commonwealth.
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7 CONTRIBUTION OF THE IOC TO THE SUCCESS OF THE GAMES
General principles applicable to the contribution of the IOC to the success of the Games

7.1 In consideration of the Hosts, the Host NOC and the OCOG performing and complying with all their obligations under the OHC, and in order to assist them in the planning, organising, financing and staging of the Games, the IOC shall:
a. make the contributions and grant the OCOG the benefits and rights further described in §8.1(e), §9, §11 and §12
(b), representing an overall estimated value of USD 1.800.000.000 (one billion, eight hundred million United States dollars);
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10. Right to retain a share of the surplus resulting from the celebration of the Games

As further detailed in the “OHC – Operational Requirements – Finance”, any surplus resulting from the planning, organising, financing and staging of the Games shall be divided as follows:

a. twenty percent (20%) to the Host NOC;
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5. Pre-election Commitments and other commitments made by Host Country Authorities

5.1 All Pre-election Commitments shall continue in effect after the election and be binding upon the Hosts, the Host NOC and the OCOG. The Hosts, the Host NOC and the OCOG are responsible to ensure that all Pre-election Commitments remain in effect until the completion of the Games and, where relevant, until the completion of the Paralympic Games, or for so long thereafter as required pursuant to the OHC or the Olympic Charter, without prejudice to any other obligations that may exist between the Parties.
5.2 The Hosts, the Host NOC and the OCOG are further responsible to ensure that:

a. all Host Country Authorities and relevant third parties honour and enforce all Pre-election Commitments and all other commitments, guarantees and obligations they have undertaken in relation to the Games and, where applicable, to the Paralympic Games; and

b. all cities, regions or other third parties that are hosting events of the Games and/or of the Paralympic Games, perform and comply with the terms of the OHC and carry out their obligations related thereto under the supervision of the OCOG.
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[rye]

id be pretty pissed off as a queenslander if the lnp tried to use this as a wedge issue

'we need to spend more on (issue) so we are scrapping an infrastructure project' basically always translates to the infrastructure project being canned, no more money being provided towards health / policing / public housing / whatever and the windfall from the cancelled project will be squandered on tax cuts for the boys

 

[Section 5]

The issue is no State or Federal Government would be spending this type of additional money in excess of their normal budgets.
In health you probably get better health outcomes but no income to pay for the expense.
Same for affordable housing and any other vote worthy policy you can throw in the ring.

This Government money would never have been put on the table if Brisbane did not get the Olympic Games approval.

The City now gets a chance to improve facilities and hopefully come out with a profit.
The Government will get 20% of any games profit. That is separate to the $2.739 billion (US $1.8 billion) the IOC has pledged.

 

[mighty_lions]

Will go ahead as 500 million or so refurb.Games will go ahead of course. Leftover 2200 million spent on Health. Politics (and common sense)will prevail.

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its like talking to a brick wall, todays announcement is basically confirming it, your saying 500mill refurb, there's no option of that, the cost of a "refurb" will not be "500mill"

 

[mighty_lions]

Are you the real mighty lions?

I was the first! I do agree with most of the things he says so has anyone seen us in the same room???

 

[jumbojet]

Spending BIG on redevelopment spending small on relocation !

 

[M Malice]

Cycled past the Gabba around 10am and there was what looked like a demonstration and/or announcement going on in Lion Park, about 150-200 people there including media and a dozen or so police.

I didn't stop to have a gawk but there were a few placards that I would assume were the local NIMBY's.

 

[Dalions]

Cycled past the Gabba around 10am and there was what looked like a demonstration and/or announcement going on in Lion Park, about 150-200 people there including media and a dozen or so police.

I didn't stop to have a gawk but there were a few placards that I would assume were the local NIMBY's.

200 people is gonna stop it!
Probably parents of the kids at the School.

 

[Section 5]

Cycled past the Gabba around 10am and there was what looked like a demonstration and/or announcement going on in Lion Park, about 150-200 people there including media and a dozen or so police.

I didn't stop to have a gawk but there were a few placards that I would assume were the local NIMBY's.

It was planned a few weeks ago just a coincidence it was 1 day after the announcement.

The protest was about the school closing down.
They want to stay in some very old buildings with basically no playground.

I have not been inside the schoolrooms but i doubt they will reach the standard of new buildings at the Coorparoo location.
The students will most likely be better off education and health wise at the new location.