News Gabba Upgrade & Olympics News

[Section 5]

Re blue carpark - im a silver 11 (well 9 or 10) home game member. Blue carpark isnt free.

Thanks for that i got the information on a google search that came up as indicated on my post and was a Suns site. Maybe many years ago. Did it again see below. Mentioned Heritage Bank so i assumed it was current.




Just had a look at the Suns membership Platinum, Gold & Silver and yes there is no free parking included in any package.
Thanks, i will edit my original post.

Do you know if suns members can also park in the Red carpark

 

[Section 5]

So if the BCC, AFL, cricket etc don't stump up the cash to get to the $137m, no redevelopment of the showgrounds takes place, and the Olympics' equestrian events will just be held in Stockholm? Yeahhh didn't think so.


Only one mob is playing politics, and their position is not as strong as you seem to think. We saw yesterday how flimsy the state govt's hand is with Hinchliffe resorting to dumb props.

Two things are obvious: 1) the onus is on the state govt to ensure the venue is upgraded for the Olympics, and 2) the venue doesn't need a $137m upgrade to temporarily host AFL and cricket.

Also, the AFL and cricket don't need to "decide quickly if they can afford the costs". It's already known that cricket is broke, and of course the AFL isn't going to pay for something that cricket gets for free.

It is an election year.
The Qld government will eat the Lions and AFL alive for being so greedy after what they have both received and will get in the future.

Funds are already allocated for the Equestrian upgrade. So, your first paragraph is just nowhere near correct.
Nothing to do with the additional funds for the AFL/Cricket upgrade.

Regarding the cost i have no idea if that is reasonable or farfetched.
Basically, the Government does not want to do it, but stakeholders have pushed for a Brisbane venue.
The Lions and Cricket can spend money and get their own plans and budget if they wish but it won't come cheap or change anything.
That will just be adding another costs and delay to a project neither want to pay for or can afford.

 

[Billy ray]

Thanks for that i got the information on a google search that came up as indicated on my post and was a Suns site. Maybe many years ago. Did it again see below. Mentioned Heritage Bank so i assumed it was current.

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Just had a look at the Suns membership Platinum, Gold & Silver and yes there is no free parking included in any package.
Thanks, i will edit my original post.

Do you know if suns members can also park in the Red carpark

Not sure re red

I personally drive and park near nerang station and walk the 25 mins. Allows me to listen to a game that is usually on before SUNS game and then after the game allows me to cool down and vent before driving (so i dont drive angry after getting shafted by umpiring).
But I realise not everyone can walk that far particularly if warm weather too.

 

[M Malice]

Not sure re red

I personally drive and park near nerang station and walk the 25 mins. Allows me to listen to a game that is usually on before SUNS game and then after the game allows me to cool down and vent before driving (so i dont drive angry after getting shafted by umpiring).
But I realise not everyone can walk that far particularly if warm weather too.

Early 2011 footage of Billy walking back to his car.

 

[Billy ray]

Early 2011 footage of Billy walking back to his car.

You were there!

 

[Teen Wolf]

It is an election year.
The Qld government will eat the Lions and AFL alive for being so greedy after what they have both received and will get in the future.

I don't doubt Annastacia Puddingguts' eating ability. But it seems to me that if we're worried about the AFL and cricket looking greedy, your alternate proposal of asking for another $45m to upgrade Carrara is just as problematic.

Funds are already allocated for the Equestrian upgrade. So, your first paragraph is just nowhere near correct.
Nothing to do with the additional funds for the AFL/Cricket upgrade.

The upgrades absolutely are all related (short of the new floodlights and drop-in pitch, both of which footy can survive without), that's the point. Regardless of cost and who funds it, the result will be an improved 130m x 170m surface with 20k seats and new broadcasting facilities. This is happening, and any talk about Carrara as an option now is a bit delusional.

 

[Section 5]

May as well put up the membership seating for the Suns and see what they classify as Platinum, Gold, Silver etc.
The members grandstand is on the left. The sun sets behind the grandstand.
Had trouble finding the expensive Green Platinum section. On left section 133.
I am assuming the dark grey sections is for opposition team supporters.
If we end up at Carrara, they would be reclassified to mostly a Lions membership category.

It looks like the light grey sections on the left in the members grandstand are some corporate sections.
The large top light grey area is marked as:
Corporate Facilities, Chairman’s Club, The Lounge Corporate Suites, Pirate Life Deck, The Rooftop.

Below the full season prices and category for season 2024
A couple of others but not in detail.
Flexi 12 adult from $299
6 Game adult from $145
3 game adult from $115

Membership Category	Adult Price	Concession Price	Child Price
Platinum	$809	$809	$809
Gold	$559	$459	$355
Silver	$309	$255	$205
Bronze looks like is now GA	$215	$175	$142
Sunscreamers	$215	$175	$142

 

[Section 5]

I don't doubt Annastacia Puddingguts' eating ability. But it seems to me that if we're worried about the AFL and cricket looking greedy, your alternate proposal of asking for another $45m to upgrade Carrara is just as problematic.


The upgrades absolutely are all related (short of the new floodlights and drop-in pitch, both of which footy can survive without), that's the point. Regardless of cost and who funds it, the result will be an improved 130m x 170m surface with 20k seats and new broadcasting facilities. This is happening, and any talk about Carrara as an option now is a bit delusional.

My last reply to you on this subject as a visitor to the Lions board.

You need to read peoples post properly before making statements.

You don't appear to understand the funding model regarding the Brisbane Olympic Games.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Makes no sense whatsoever for a Brisbane team to play "home" games for 4 years in another city and would require for most spectators to get there using multiple bus/train connections.

I have done the Metricon trip a few times, I am on the inner southside of Brisbane and from the time you leave home until you are tucked up in bed post game you are looking at 5 + hours.

I sold my car during covid whilst living in Sydney (didn't drive it for 18 months and after it got vandalised multiple times in the interim I cracked the sh!ts and got rid of it).

Anyway long story short it means I take public transport everywhere, including to Carrara, which is what the club and government etc will be encouraging everyone to do. And according to my Google timeline, last time I was there it was an 8+ hour round trip!

And I also live on the south side, close to good public transport options (buses and trains).

Yeah let's not do that.

 

[SizeMatters]

Very well summarised as always Section 5.

I also believe it’s time to accept that Carrara is the best option left on the table.

agree. from a realist POV carrara ticks the most boxes. Gov owned, cheapest, lowest political risk and ready to go.

I can't wait to attend every home game just a 20 minute drive from my residence. Esp after being interstate the past six years.

Obviously emotions are injected in a lot of chat on here but from a logical POV it makes the most sense both from a risk but also financial POV. Just sucks for the Lions but maybe we can swing it in a way that the Gov can pay compo. Would be cheaper option than the ridiculous RNA showground option that's been proposed.

 

[Section 5]

I sold my car during covid whilst living in Sydney (didn't drive it for 18 months and after it got vandalised multiple times in the interim I cracked the sh!ts and got rid of it).

Anyway long story short it means I take public transport everywhere, including to Carrara, which is what the club and government etc will be encouraging everyone to do. And according to my Google timeline, last time I was there it was an 8+ hour round trip!

And I also live on the south side, close to good public transport options (buses and trains).

Yeah let's not do that.

Apart from the purchase price, interest if you did not pay cash, petrol, insurance, registration, servicing, cleaning, depreciation value, paid parking, and not great for the environment, motor vehicles do have one advantage.

They can get you from A to B quicker than using some forms of public transport.

 

[Maboo]

She’s up there with one of the worst premiers of any state ever. Boggles the mind who and how people vote in such people much like Victorians who were bagging Dan Andrews for the Covid lockdown debacle, protested throughout the streets then just vote back him. As for Palaszcuk being voted in, if she’s the standard, what does it say about those that vote for her and yeah, not surprising nor I really care why someone like her would be interested in the Lions; she’s nothing but a stain.

What does it say, probably that the puss that calls itself the opposition is worse, and I am not sure how well you know her to say someone like her. Maybe this is is not the place for political comment comrade.
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[Tandy]

I shall assume you have not been to Carrara.
As i and many others have mentioned it is a big hassle to get to and from the ground.
Driving down the M1 and then choosing the next step in the journey.
Then you have free rail and bus shuttles if that is more convenient or somehow quicker.
But taking everything into consideration i think it is the best option for members and the club.

Regarding parking, remember we would be the home team.
The Suns (home team) members get free parking in the Blue carpark according to their website. See below.
Lions people pay for that same Blue carpark when we play away. I have only parked there once.
I believe the Suns members can pay to get into the Red car park but i am not certain. A Suns BF poster may be able to clarify.
However, the Red carpark looks too large to me to be just a players and VIP carpark.

There is also a big carpark in the "Gold Coast Sports & Leasure Centre" but i think it is only for those using the Centre.
I know of one other paid carpark ($10) but it is about a 12-15-minute walk from the ground in Chisholm Road near Red Rooster.
I used to park for free in Chisholm Road but last year the council added that road into the 15-minute precinct parking limit area.
I am sure there are other paid carparks that BF posters will know about.

Image below taken from the Suns website.
The second image from Google Maps showing the cars parked in the Red carpark. There must not have been a game on that day as no cars in Blue carpark.
In the last image the Nerang rail station is circled in green. According to Google Maps it is a walk of 2 km taking 27 minutes.

I drive from Everton Park on the Northside of Brisbane and have tried various parking spots over the years.
For first time visitors i think the easiest is to drive down and park near the rail station and get the shuttle buses.
Would recommend that over rail from Brisbane unless you are drinking and have no designated driver.
Or pay for parking.
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Parking is free in the Blue Carpark and there are free regular bus, train and light rail services for all ticket holders from 4 hours pre to 4 hours post game.

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I've never noticed the end of the stadium opens up to Nerang river! Surely they could or could have used this to their benefit. Opened it up more, 'activated' the area. Get some lighting and better access through the area. Never been there but is that an idea or is it not practical. Seems from afar that they need a better game day experience including rail to the stadium
*Apologies wrong thread

 

[Teen Wolf]

You don't appear to understand the funding model regarding the Brisbane Olympic Games.

I understand that funding for, say, the Moreton Bay Indoor Sports Centre in 2029 isn't going to magically morph into funding Car-rara parking for football fans in 2025. Therein lies your suggestion's massive flaw.

The Qld govt is attempting to palm off a big chunk of the bill for the Showgrounds, onto other parties, in order to upgrade it for the Olympics without using any of that $7.1b Brisbane 2032 funding ($1.9b of which is reserved for 16 "Minor Venues Program" projects, none of them being the Showgrounds or Carrara). I hope all Lions supporters realise that.

 

[BangyBangy]

I've never noticed the end of the stadium opens up to Nerang river! Surely they could or could have used this to their benefit. Opened it up more, 'activated' the area. Get some lighting and better access through the area. Never been there but is that an idea or is it not practical. Seems from afar that they need a better game day experience including rail to the stadium
*Apologies wrong thread

Yep, it's a lovely spot. Not sure if it's overly practical for the ferry's to operate down to the stadium in terms of transport infrastructure, but you could certainly make some use of it with a few cafes or bars down on a dock with a port for the ferries. I haven't paid too much attention to where the ferries operate, I think there's a station / port on Chevron Island.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Well we still call it Kardinia Park, and sometimes Docklands, and I don't know if someone has the naming rights to the Gabba but if they do I not only don't use it but have no idea what it is supposed to be!

I make a point of never using them.

The amount of people in Sydney who still have no idea what/where "Accor Stadium" is boggles the mind.

Also, its former name, ANZ Stadium, was in Brisbane when I was a kid.

So all these sponsors can take their naming rights and flush them down the toilet.

Lang Park, Carrara, Stadium Australia, Sydney Showground, Parramatta Stadium, Sydney Football Stadium, Docklands, Kardinia Park, Perth Stadium, York Park, Bellerive Oval. Easy.

"Melbourne Rectangular Stadium" is a bit of a mouthful tho I admit

 

[Grasshopper17]

I've never noticed the end of the stadium opens up to Nerang river! Surely they could or could have used this to their benefit. Opened it up more, 'activated' the area. Get some lighting and better access through the area. Never been there but is that an idea or is it not practical. Seems from afar that they need a better game day experience including rail to the stadium
*Apologies wrong thread

Better yet, how bout a stadium actually ON the Gold Coast!

 

[wantok]

What a shambles. With the revelation that the Brisbane Arena can not most likely be built over Roma St Station for the cost or on time and has to be moved,the Gabba blow-out and the apparent lack of any genuine preplanning for the relocation and dislocation of the Lions and Qld Cricket it is obvious this whole Olympics bid was nothing more than a political play and a lot of artists models. Its got out of hand and a hell of a lot of incompetency has been exposed.
I think we can all forget any talk of funding models. It's back to the drawing board. Whatever happens it's going to be impacted by the politics and public opinions in the lead up to the Qld Election in October.

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[BangyBangy]

Better yet, how bout a stadium actually ON the Gold Coast!

I can assure you Carrara is actually on the Gold Coast. I have robbed many people there, these people will tell you they were robbed on the Gold Coast.

 

[Grasshopper17]

I can assure you Carrara is actually on the Gold Coast. I have robbed many people there, these people will tell you they were robbed on the Gold Coast.

What was BRAB's involvement in these shenanigans?

 

[CarterS]

Brisbane Mayor has quit the Brisbane 2032 Games delivery forum (whatever that is) and withdrawn support for redeveloping the Gabba and heavily criticised the state government.

Have to say the state government has gone from disaster to disaster at the moment, can anyone have any confidence for them to deliver any major project properly, let alone the olympics and multiple stadium rebuilds?

Here's the courier mail article.

Brisbane Lord Mayor quits Olympic gig over Premier’s ‘ham-fisted’ stadium​

Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner has sensationally quit the Brisbane 2032 Games delivery forum and withdrawn support for the $2.7bn Gabba rebuild, declaring the Palaszczuk government has “completely lost its way” on the road to the Olympics.
The Sunday Mail can reveal Mr Schrinner has resigned from the Olympic and Paralympic Games Intergovernmental Leaders Forum, declaring the state government’s “ham-fisted and foolish attempt to extort Brisbane ratepayers” to build a new $137m boutique stadium at RNA was the final straw for the extraordinary schism.

He said the Games had become “more about overpriced stadiums rather than the promise of vital transport solutions”.

The bipartisan bid from the LNP Lord Mayor and Labor Premier has been the cornerstone for the pitch to host the global event, but Mr Schrinner declared the government had “completely lost its way on the road to the Games”.

Mr Schrinner’s salvo comes after the government also spooked cricket and AFL stakeholders by demanding they chip in for the new RNA stadium.

He said the bungling had “put the promised legacy for our city, our region and our state in serious jeopardy”.

“Ever since the Premier and I travelled to Tokyo together to secure the 2032 Games, I have been a committed team player, despite numerous setbacks and political differences. I have done this because I strongly believed that only by working together can we stage the best-ever Games.”

Mr Schrinner’s bombshell resignation will send shockwaves through the government already grappling with wilting support.

Critical support from regional voters has also been jeopardised in recent months amid fury at the government’s costly commitments to host the Games in the South East, and Mr Schrinner abandoning the forum will land another blow to Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk ahead of the election in October next year.

“Hosting the Games is a privilege,” his resignation says.

“But this sad episode is just the latest example of the state’s determination to use the event as their own personal political plaything.

“First was the state’s last-minute decision, without consultation, to redevelop the Gabba for supposedly $1bn and then every decision that has happened with the Gabba since. Then came the state’s decision to junk the promised independent co-ordination authority that was supposed to oversee Games infrastructure planning and delivery.

“Friday’s farcical demands over the RNA stadium aptly demonstrated that the state is not interested in teamwork and that the Gabba rebuild should be independently re-evaluated.”

The shock announcement comes as The Sunday Mail can reveal the extent of the furious response to the government’s demands for AFL and cricket to contribute to the $137m RNA stadium, with a senior source close to the negotiations saying the proposal will “send Queensland Cricket broke”.

“Queensland Cricket does not have the borrowing capacity to make a financial contribution to a temporary home at RNA for cricket which would normally be played at the Gabba,” the source said.

“Why would Queensland Cricket, even if it could, borrow money to invest in a venue that it doesn’t own or lease, or will not use beyond a displacement period?”

 

[The Flying Belgian]

I hate politics talk on here, but we’re are not well represented by politicians in SE Qld. To paraphrase the seminal ABC comedy The Games, thank God we’re not expected to host a global sporting competition in the future.

The acrimony between the Qld Govt and BCC has been ridiculous in the past 5 years and that it has not been at least partially repaired in that times speaks to the maturity and priorities of both entities.

As much as this whole debacle by the state government has been botched, Schrinner and his crew having a public dummy spit for political points is reflective of what happens when any political body is allowed to govern almost unchallenged for long periods.

 

[weevil]

Can anyone to point to any mega infrastructure project that has ever been delivered on time and on budget by any government anywhere in the world?

I’m sure they might exist.

 

[BuntonRules]

What a circus.

 

[Warwick]

Can anyone to point to any mega infrastructure project that has ever been delivered on time and on budget by any government anywhere in the world?

I’m sure they might exist.

Think the pyramids were the last.