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[BangyBangy]

I don't think parents can expect schools to be within walking distance.... although that is subjective, back in my Primary School days in the 60s I walked to and from school and it was around 3km each way.

 

[nWo]

Only 250 or so students at East Brisbane State School, those numbers could quite comfortably be absorbed into surrounding schools eg. Dutton Park, Coorparoo, Buranda, Greenslopes.

I'm probably in the minority but I for one am looking forward to a brand spanking new Gabba, if I live that long.

Mark my words - they will relocate the school to the old Cooparoo College near Cooparoo AFL

 

[Warwick]

‘Only an extra 8000 seats’.

Lol. The Courier Mail would be proud.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

There isn't a school within walking distance of every suburban house in Brisbane though. So that is a bit of an odd metric. Surely there will be some families who currently don't have a school within walking distance of where they live who will now with the new campus.

This is Woolloongabba and East Brisbane we're talking about, a place where plenty of people don't have cars due to the ease of access to services. It's invalid to compare it to suburban Brisbane.

A bus every 3 minutes

Between where and where exactly? At what times of day?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Re: the school, one of the more interesting things is how divided the school community themselves have been over the issue of moving. There is a strong desire to stay where they are from a history PoV within the community, but I believe more within the community are actually quite excited and even a bit relieved that this has happened. It is quite an old school now with limited facilities, and more importantly not a very safe school being hemmed in on all sides by major roads.

Moving to a safer, greener, newer campus within the vicinity has widespread support amongst the school community. Those perspectives just haven't been reported on as they are less newsworthy than angry parents/teachers protesting.

Does this come from speaking to parents themselves, or from some other source?

 

[Nunez]

Does this come from speaking to parents themselves, or from some other source?

PattyKisaSurveyorOfParents

 

[briztoon]

Johnny Bananas are a parent of a child at the school?

How well do you know the bus services that run through Wooloongabba? The bus station there is basically the hub to all the south eastern suburbs. From 5am to 1am.

 

[Fatcat08]

I thought one of the major IOC requirements was for the 2032 Olympics to be carbon negative and to have no new builds and that this was part of the award process. The demolition and rebuild of the Gabba and the school doesn’t seem to match the criteria at all. Maybe that is why the Federal Government is not providing money for this part of the project. You would think it would make more sense to spend a lot less money by redeveloping the Gabba and leaving the school where it is. To spend billions of dollars building a new stadium and only getting an extra 8,000 seats doesn’t seem like a good return on investment anyway.

Worth remembering that the Gabba has an extensive current and future use plan. The main IOC concern was the bad pr associated with permanent building showing with 5ft high weeds growing out of them post the games like Athens and Brazil. So they went with a minimal new permanent new venues. Whether they renovate or rebuild the Gabba it is classed as an existing venue as it has an existing use case.

Unfortunately due to current configuration of they renovated it for modern safety standards and facilities they would have to get rid of the school. The school can't be incorporated into the stadium either as it doesn't meet the access restrictions required to meet large stadium safety requirements. Think bombs etc

 

[Section 5]

Lucky Brisbane was given about 11 years to get things done instead of the usual much shorter timeframe.
The finance is now set so they need to move quickly on the next phase.
Hopefully that next phase is already in place and set to go, and they were just waiting for the finance contribution to be sorted.
I doubt they are that organized though.

 

[Bjo187]

I posted this in the stadiums thread, but I'd be very excited as a lions fan right now.

New facilities in a growing area, a successful women's team with the majority of their team being local, attracting quality players from other clubs, then a brand new stadium coming in a few years time, which you'd have to suspect at that price, will be the best in the country.

 

[Quested]

I posted this in the stadiums thread, but I'd be very excited as a lions fan right now.

New facilities in a growing area, a successful women's team with the majority of their team being local, attracting quality players from other clubs, then a brand new stadium coming in a few years time, which you'd have to suspect at that price, will be the best in the country.

You under estimate Anastasia's ability to waste money! Hopefully she stays out of it until ribbon cutting time

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Johnny Bananas are a parent of a child at the school?

Nope. But I've never claimed to speak for the community.

How well do you know the bus services that run through Wooloongabba? The bus station there is basically the hub to all the south eastern suburbs. From 5am to 1am.

Not well, which is why I'm asking. Are the outbound services in the morning and the inbound services in the afternoon very frequent? There's also the consideration of whether parents trust their primary school children to take the bus home by themselves.

 

[briztoon]

Not well, which is why I'm asking. Are the outbound services in the morning and the inbound services in the afternoon very frequent? There's also the consideration of whether parents trust their primary school children to take the bus home by themselves.

As I mentioned it’s the bus hub of the south eastern suburbs, there’s literally 3 busses a minute during peak hours. Probably more.

You could move the school 1 or 2 k’s away, and create a bus stop next to the school and have any number routes stopping there.

Public transport won’t be an issue.


I have no attachment to the school.

Just purely from a common sense perspective in terms of its location, it’s a very stupid place to have a school in today’s Brisbane.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

As I mentioned it’s the bus hub of the south eastern suburbs, there’s literally 3 busses a minute during peak hours. Probably more.

Is that in an outbound direction during the morning and inbound in the afternoon? Do they all go to Coorparoo Secondary College?

You could move the school 1 or 2 k’s away, and create a bus stop next to the school and have any number routes stopping there.

That's all great, but, the fact remains that a school nearby to residents is being taken away. Walking is better for traffic than buses.

Just purely from a common sense perspective in terms of its location, it’s a very stupid place to have a school in today’s Brisbane.

You know the school was there before the Gabba was, right?

 

[briztoon]

Is that in an outbound direction during the morning and inbound in the afternoon? Do they all go to Coorparoo Secondary College?

Why, is that where the school is moving to?

There would be a few services that would run past there. 215 and 220 off the top of my head. Then others that then swing up Cavendish road as well.

That's all great, but, the fact remains that a school nearby to residents is being taken away. Walking is better for traffic than buses.

I wouldn’t walk my kids there if I lived more than a street away.

Your talking walking kids there during peak hour and crossing two of the three busiest roads on the south side to do so.

It’s not like walking kids to school in a leafy suburb.

You know the school was there before the Gabba was, right?

Yes I do know that. And it’s a stupid place to have a school in today’s age.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Always thought that New Farm Park was an option as well. I mean it used to be a horse racetrack.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Always thought that New Farm Park was an option as well. I mean it used to be a horse racetrack.

Flood risk, plus it’s established green space.

 

[Warwick]

What will happen with the Gabba's sporting events and East Brisbane State School during Olympics redevelopment? - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au

Austin Gibbs from the P&C said the organisation had been met with a "wall of silence" from the state government since Brisbane was confirmed as the host of the Games.

"You're going to bulldoze a 125-year-old school, you're going $3 billion into debt, and for what? To get an extra 5,000 seats or so in the stadium that'll probably get used once a year," Mr Gibbs said.

"We're just struggling to understand the logic of the decision."



Wot?

 

[Nathan Barley]

What will happen with the Gabba's sporting events and East Brisbane State School during Olympics redevelopment? - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au

Austin Gibbs from the P&C said the organisation had been met with a "wall of silence" from the state government since Brisbane was confirmed as the host of the Games.

"You're going to bulldoze a 125-year-old school, you're going $3 billion into debt, and for what? To get an extra 5,000 seats or so in the stadium that'll probably get used once a year," Mr Gibbs said.

"We're just struggling to understand the logic of the decision."



Wot?

Is he saying the extra 5,000 seats will only be used once a year?

 

[mighty_lions]

The amount of whinging about the school is unbelievable, it’s going to be a brand new school 2km down the road, get over it


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[Section 5]

What will happen with the Gabba's sporting events and East Brisbane State School during Olympics redevelopment? - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au

Austin Gibbs from the P&C said the organisation had been met with a "wall of silence" from the state government since Brisbane was confirmed as the host of the Games.

"You're going to bulldoze a 125-year-old school, you're going $3 billion into debt, and for what? To get an extra 5,000 seats or so in the stadium that'll probably get used once a year," Mr Gibbs said.

"We're just struggling to understand the logic of the decision."



Wot?

The school is heritage listed along with a couple of other buildings on the site.
Maybe the cost blowout is taking into consideration a brick-by-brick removal and placed brick-by- brick at other sites.

 

[M Malice]

The school is heritage listed along with a couple of other buildings on the site.
Maybe the cost blowout is taking into consideration a brick-by-brick removal and placed brick-by- brick at other sites.

Governments don't have to worry about heritage listings... that's only for us plebs.

 

[Billy ray]

they did a brick by brick relocation of a building in perth as part of the waterfront development from memory - costs millions but does the job

 

[BRAB]

It’s an inner city Brisbane school, EQ will take care of all impacted.

 

[Fatcat08]

Governments don't have to worry about heritage listings... that's only for us plebs.

If only you knew. They can be just as hard for govt departments. In this case the building is listed but not the vista it's set in. Add that in there and it's a nightmare!