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[MSB ROYS]

Yeah let's disrupt areas that are currently inhabited unlike the ghost town that is Victoria Park.

Herston Nimbys - what a joke.

 

[Schache_off]

Love the "We would imagine flat sites".

Usually these groups speak with absolute certainty and exaggerate +++

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Love the "We would imagine flat sites".

Usually these groups speak with absolute certainty and exaggerate +++

They know nothing about engineering or urban planning. Nor do they care. It's just "get it away from us!"

 

[Grasshopper17]

Man, they're such massive NIMBYs. "It's fine if it gets built somewhere else, we just don't want it in our suburb"

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ie Hamilton

 

[Section 5]

This is not unexpected. Let's see how the LNP handle the issues if Victoria Park is the favored site.
Best they just use the mandate thing as they are only doing what they promised following the expert's advice.

I have mentioned before that getting certain parties on side early was very important.
I am talking mainly first nations concerns & some small heritage issues in certain sections of the park.
These are the two main things the IOC want to avoid regarding new venues.

I have been hoping the Lord Mayor with his Victoria Park Masterplan had consulted both parties when coming up with the end result. That way they have been involved, and we already know their concerns.
There were lots of community input on the Masterplan so hopefully something also came from both those parties.
However, governments really need to approach these two groups before any plans are put forward if they have not already.
Have them involved from the start and work out any differences. Doing it after the fact is just asking for delays or cancellation of the project.

Regarding protesting over parkland loss i think that already has been shown can be solved.
Does not mean it won't be an issue though. This is also why i prefer just one new venue over two or three.

 

[wantok]

If Vic Park concept gets the nod i believe it will feature a public Private Partnership like Perth. I predict the Gabba will be redeveloped after the Games into a mixture of High rise accommodation in a Parkland setting around a Village Green sized oval providing incentive to the Private Developers. There will be a portion of Public Housing required. There will also be more High rise Housing built on the RNA site (Valley end)utilised as the Athletes Village for the Games and purchased by the Govt for Public housing thereafter. I think I might be dead for this but it would transform inner Brisbane.

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[Section 5]

If you can't build on massive parkland that was previously inaccessible to the public anyway (golf course), where the hell can you build without complainants?

Also there argument regarding close vicinity to a hospital, the mcg is right near the epworth and st Vincent's. I literally use to park in the epworth carpark for games .

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Agree with you on making use of land that has forever been exclusive to golfers until a few years ago.
Victoria Park needs to be a better place for all Brisbane residents and tourists to use.
The BCC Masterplan + a stadium will be fantastic use of the land.

Regarding the hospital i disagree. I think it can be sorted out with Queensland Health concerns as Arcadis had mentioned.
You can't really compare those two Melbourne hospitals in relation to Victoria Park and the RBWH + STARS hospitals.

In Melbourne there is plenty of greenspace and distance separating the MCG from both hospitals.
In Brisbane you cross the road from STARS and RBWH and you are on Victoria Park and about another 100 meters to the planned warm up track. The planned stadium spot is a reasonable but not long distance away from the warmup track.

The MCG was built before the two hospitals. I doubt the MCG complained about them going up in their precinct.

The RBWH in Brisbane is by far the largest hospital in Australia with 1000 beds.
Then throw in separate whole buildings dedicated to cancer and other disease research
Attached literally to the RBWH is the relatively new STARS (Surgical Treatment And Rehabilitation Services) hospital facing Herston Road. It has 182 beds, 100 being for rehabilitation.
It is a specialist day surgery hospital but has the beds for very short stay after surgery and rehabilitation.
Thats a total of 1182 beds. The next biggest hospital in Australia is the Gold Coast University Hospital with 930 beds.
St Vincents On The Park - 84 beds
Epworth Richmond - 626 beds
Total 710 beds.

If Victoria Park is preferred i think they will sort out any hospital issues but there will be issues.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Have they petitioned the Ekka to stop fireworks? Given they're so close to the hospital and all.

 

[Perrip]

Man, they're such massive NIMBYs. "It's fine if it gets built somewhere else, we just don't want it in our suburb"

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They dislike being called NIMBYs lol.

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[Mr Ripper]

Calling people NIMBYs is WOKE!!!!!

 

[Elixuh]

State government should propose building a prison at vic park. See how quickly the nimbys want a stadium

 

[dlanod]

Calling people NIMBYs is WOKE!!!!!

Not In My BackYard! Would Only Kondone my Enjoyment!

 

[Perrip]

Adrian Schrinner endorses stadium and green space at Victoria Park

The final report from the 100-day Olympic infrastructure review is expected to be completed by March, with Victoria Park once again in the spotlight for a stadium.
Brisbane City Council Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner told Shane Doherty on 4BC Summer Drive, “What’s in the middle of Melbourne’s central parkland area? A big sporting precinct.”
“It’s amazing and you can just see the way that people love that, and so I guess from my perspective it could work in Victoria Park but we have to make sure that we retain the vast majority of the park as green space and I think that can be done.”
“I just think there’s ways you could minimise any kind of impact on green space and just create an amazing destination, and so the stadium itself would be a destination but the parkland around it would be a destination and I think it could work really well,” the Lord Mayor said.

 

[Section 5]

Adrian Schrinner endorses stadium and green space at Victoria Park

A good interview.
Not sure if Gary was playing devil's advocate in regard to The Gabba on a few things.
But he is right on the travelling distances to the proposed VP site especially for older and impaired people.
Walking from Exhibition station and Roma Street station is okay for a lot of people. The Valley station also an option for people but Central is not an option. The more options after an event the better.
This is why i have proposed a new rail station (city side) at the stadium site. Separate transport funding from Olympic budget.
Funding transport was also mentioned so it should not be a big deal to get done.
If you are going to spend $3-$4 billion on a project you need a closer rail station to ensure its long-term viability.
It also gives people more options after the event.

Costs ?? The Hamilton project mentioned $200 million for a new station. Peanuts in the long term in a growing city.
Will also service the 2 big grammar schools and everyone on the Gregory Terrace side.

It appears that Schrinner thinks 1 stadium is enough on the site and i agree.
Two or three just makes it so much harder to get approved and more protests likely.
Easy enough to imagine Arcadis plan without the other two venues. Just less greenspace going over the ICB & rail line on the hospital side.

 

[Perrip]

It appears that Schrinner thinks 1 stadium is enough on the site and i agree.
Two or three just makes it so much harder to get approved and more protests likely.
Easy enough to imagine Arcadis plan without the other two venues. Just less greenspace going over the ICB & rail line on the hospital side.

Just from speaking to people on the Vic Park option, the Brisbane Bold option with the stadium, Brisbane Live, & the swimming complex is the proposal they think the Vic Park option will entail. Having only the stadium on site, while retaining the majority of the existing Green Space + proposals in the Master Plan, is hopefully the option they go with.

 

[Section 5]

Further on the Arcadis walking times on their Victoria Park plan.
I put the below in as part of my submission. Also pushes my thoughts for a new station.
When looking at the times people will say that's easy enough to do for most people.
It is really about making the VP site as accessible as possible. A new rail station will achieve this for a stadium and the area in general.

The King Street dining precinct is the same walk time as Exhibition station being around 17 minutes.

Public transport in convenience order. Which one or a combination of both depends on where you come from or going to.
Rail: New station VP, Exhibition, Roma Street, Valley & Central a long last
Bus: Herston, RBWH, QUT. & various smaller stops along Gregory Terrace & Herston Road.

 

[BRAB]

State government should propose building a prison at vic park. See how quickly the nimbys want a stadium

Youth crime rehabilitation centre would send them over the edge

 

[BuntonRules]

Youth crime rehabilitation centre would send them over the edge

Athletes village to become a 5000 bed halfway house

 

[Gadzorks]

Athletes village to become a 5000 bed halfway house

Scary.

I'm all for the athletes Village to become subsidised affordable housing for hospital workers and their families. Nurses base wage is in the $70 range so living near work is impossible for most.

Personally I want the people who need to make decisions about my actual life to be well rested and stress free, which doesn't happen with long comutes and the family stress that goes with the commute. And stress is amplified with shift work and the juggling of kids etc.

Nurses rock, and they deserve to be looked after - care for the care-givers.

 

[SizeMatters]

Man, they're such massive NIMBYs. "It's fine if it gets built somewhere else, we just don't want it in our suburb"

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No offence intended but my experience NIMBYS only usually have a few years left on this planet. I reckon **** them. Push ahead.

 

[Chucky_23]

Have seen a couple of ‘no stadium’ signs up in Kelvin Grove village shops. These shop owners would directly benefit from the extra people that the stadium would bring to the area

 

[Happy_Neale]

Might be a stupid question but what's the point of the GABBA cross river rail station if we go to Vic Park? Won't that be a total waste? There's not that much around there when the footy isn't on and that will reduce further if we move out of the area as well.

 

[Billy ray]

Might be a stupid question but what's the point of the GABBA cross river rail station if we go to Vic Park? Won't that be a total waste? There's not that much around there when the footy isn't on and that will reduce further if we move out of the area as well.

Thats where post oympics they can convert Gabba site to indoor entertainment centre (replace boondall) with parklands also included and some housing apartments i reckon

 

[Elixuh]

Might be a stupid question but what's the point of the GABBA cross river rail station if we go to Vic Park? Won't that be a total waste? There's not that much around there when the footy isn't on and that will reduce further if we move out of the area as well.

Retail precinct and a lot of high density housing would be built there you’d expect. Could totally transform the space to house 1000s with the public transport infrastructure already in place.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Might be a stupid question but what's the point of the GABBA cross river rail station if we go to Vic Park? Won't that be a total waste? There's not that much around there when the footy isn't on and that will reduce further if we move out of the area as well.

There's plenty of apartments gone up in the last 20 years and I'd guess, many more planned.