Garrett - World Class Backflipper in training

[slyolddog]

Labor's rising star does a policy shuffle
12 June 04

PETER Garrett has taken just 24 hours to abandon policies he held true for more than two decades.

"I've made a decision, effectively, to go towards the mainstream," the former Midnight Oil front man declared yesterday.
"If that's identified as being a little more conservative, then so be it."

The rocker who forged his reputation by opposing everything from woodchips to American bases became an official member of the Australian Labor Party yesterday.

But Mr Garrett's failure to enrol to vote for the past 10 years made him an immediate target for the Howard Government.

And he is already singing a different tune on key environmental, defence and foreign affairs issues he once passionately advocated.

"I pretty much stand by all of the things that I've said on the public record about politics," he said.

But Mr Garrett, 51, has already changed his mind on a range of crucial issues, including now:

SUPPORTING mandatory detention of refugees.

GIVING the green light to a new pulp mill in Tasmania.

WALKING away from a long-term goal of scrapping Australia's alliance with the US.

ABANDONING a lifelong commitment to shutting down Pine Gap and other US bases.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,9817447%5E661,00.html

 

[DaveW]

Gotta fit in with the party principles.

 

[Tim56]

Politics is the art of the compromise, so intially I will be a bit forgiving. However, I think this will encourage what already seems to be a skeptical public.

 

[bunsen burner]

Originally posted by DaveW
Gotta fit in with the party principles.

This is certainly true, it's a team game and you have to do what's best for the team. Garrett has got that part right, but selling out overnight on his strong views he's held for 20 years is a bit rich. His credibility for me at the moment is 0. If Labor gets in power and he get's a seat in the cabinet, then he has his work cut out to impress me.

 

[MGREG]

Maybe his new name should be Cheryl.

 

[hoss]

Wow.. 2 threads from slyolddog in one day on "backflipper". Dog has obviously learnt a new word to add to his vocab. I'm amazed that after his years of following that other dog, John Howard, he wasn't already familiar with the word.

 

[billy big ears]

He must have been reading politics according to the king of flip flop " the never ever " J Howard.

 

[The Legend]

Clearly, he's another "Baby-Boomer" looking out for #1. I reckon its all Fishy.

 

[MGREG]

And what about his lamearse excuse for not voting? At least he could come up with something more credible. Of course such an explanation is pretty high brow for his constituency.

 

[noodnuts]

he's a fraud who's made millions out of the gullible and feeble minded followers of that new age greenie religion.

he's always been going on about the evil capitalists and the corporate world, yet midnight oil signed a record deal with one of the biggest corporations....sony!!!! right on garrett, your a man of his convictions.

he's been banging on about saving the world and all that religious greenie crap, yet he's a millionaire who lives a jetset lifstyle.......yeah, getting back to nature garrett.

garrett is a self-styled messiah, a christ figure, who was borne from mother earth and sent amongst us to save us from detruction. the sad thing is that our media has allowed him to get away with this new age qwackery and not stuck it right up him as anyone claiming to be jesus christ should be treated.

it's even sadder that so many ppl have fallen for this religious mumbo jumbo.........australia is a nation of idiots.

 

[gPhonque]

Originally posted by noodnuts
he's a fraud who's made millions out of the gullible and feeble minded followers of that new age greenie religion.

he's always been going on about the evil capitalists and the corporate world, yet midnight oil signed a record deal with one of the biggest corporations....sony!!!! right on garrett, your a man of his convictions.

he's been banging on about saving the world and all that religious greenie crap, yet he's a millionaire who lives a jetset lifstyle.......yeah, getting back to nature garrett.

garrett is a self-styled messiah, a christ figure, who was borne from mother earth and sent amongst us to save us from detruction. the sad thing is that our media has allowed him to get away with this new age qwackery and not stuck it right up him as anyone claiming to be jesus christ should be treated.

it's even sadder that so many ppl have fallen for this religious mumbo jumbo.........australia is a nation of idiots.

What a pile of crap.

 

[noodnuts]

Originally posted by gPhonque
What a pile of crap.

dont tell me, tell garrett......he's the one with the christ complex who goes around telling everyone is evil if they abuse mother earth.

 

[Shinboners]

Originally posted by MGREG
Maybe his new name should be Cheryl.

Classic.

 

[Shinboners]

Originally posted by MGREG
And what about his lamearse excuse for not voting? At least he could come up with something more credible. Of course such an explanation is pretty high brow for his constituency.

How can Garret claim to have voted if he's not on the electoral roll (the real one or this mysterious silent roll)?

Whenver I vote, I go to the voting booth, tell the official my name, they go through the list, find your name, cross it off, and give you the voting papers. Surely Garrett would have followed the same process? But if his name wasn't on the roll, then how could he have received his voting papers?

 

[afc9798]

Originally posted by Shinboners
How can Garret claim to have voted if he's not on the electoral roll (the real one or this mysterious silent roll)?

Whenver I vote, I go to the voting booth, tell the official my name, they go through the list, find your name, cross it off, and give you the voting papers. Surely Garrett would have followed the same process? But if his name wasn't on the roll, then how could he have received his voting papers?

When your name is on the silent list, there is not actually a list at the place of polling. You inform the electorate officer that you are on the silent list, they give you the voting papers, you place your vote and they send them back to be counted. If they subsequently find that you are not on that list, the vote is discounted as has happened to Garrett. Quite simple really, hence the photo of Garrett voting in New York 2001 at the Australian consulate.

In regards to Greggy's little Cheryl joke, this comparison was used in every Murdoch gutter rag, so it's hardly a classic. I'm sure Greggy will be pleased that someone thought he was original though.

 

[Docker_Brat]

I used to think that tall poppy syndrome was a myth.

It is absolutely true that whenever someone attempts to achieve something they are surreptitiously torn down at the first opportunity.

Much has been made of his "failure to vote" a twist on the facts, this bloke honestly believed he had been on the silent roll, why would he make that up?

I'd rather give Garrett a chance to do his job and then make an assessment. It's amazing how many times in this country when people make attempts at achievement; they are tripped up and abused for falling down.

I’d rather have a dozen Peter Garretts than one Alexander Downer or John Howard.

 

[Goldenblue]

Originally posted by Docker_Brat
I used to think that tall poppy syndrome was a myth.

It is absolutely true that whenever someone attempts to achieve something they are surreptitiously torn down at the first opportunity.

Much has been made of his "failure to vote" a twist on the facts, this bloke honestly believed he had been on the silent roll, why would he make that up?

I'd rather give Garrett a chance to do his job and then make an assessment. It's amazing how many times in this country when people make attempts at achievement; they are tripped up and abused for falling down.

I’d rather have a dozen Peter Garretts than one Alexander Downer or John Howard.

Well spoken.

 

[scmods]

Originally posted by noodnuts
he's a fraud who's made millions out of the gullible and feeble minded followers of that new age greenie religion.

I doubt that he's ever made any money out of being a greenie.

he's always been going on about the evil capitalists and the corporate world, yet midnight oil signed a record deal with one of the biggest corporations....sony!!!! right on garrett, your a man of his convictions.

One of the realities of their industry is that if you're not with a big label, you don't get heard.

he's been banging on about saving the world and all that religious greenie crap, yet he's a millionaire who lives a jetset lifstyle.......yeah, getting back to nature garrett.

What exactly do you mean by a "jetset lifestyle"? Doesn't sound much like the band that toured the country in Tarago vans.

garrett is a self-styled messiah, a christ figure, who was borne from mother earth and sent amongst us to save us from detruction. the sad thing is that our media has allowed him to get away with this new age qwackery and not stuck it right up him as anyone claiming to be jesus christ should be treated.

Claiming to be Jesus Christ?? Care to justify that idiotic claim?

it's even sadder that so many ppl have fallen for this religious mumbo jumbo.........australia is a nation of idiots.

That's democracy. We're all free to listen to whoever we want to. The more intelligent among us are able to listen without letting our personal prejudices get in the way.

 

[MGREG]

Originally posted by Shinboners
Classic.

And unlike afc69 I didnt read it in the Murdoch press.

It came to me independently.

Only difference Cheryl was realatively better looking and had more credability.

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Nice rant there noodnuts, it made no sense whatsoever nor was there anything resembling facts in it but hey I'm sure you felt good posting it.

Good luck to Garrett, god knows the australian political scene needs an injection of fresh ideas. I'm sure he is smart enough to realise that compromise is the name of the game in politics.

As for the Cheryl jibe it aint original; those who think it is really need to get out more.

 

[MGREG]

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts


As for the Cheryl jibe it aint original; those who think it is really need to get out more.

Says someone who thinks Garrett brings fresh ideas.

Yeah we need more hooch and coke addled brains in Canberra!

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Originally posted by MGREG
Says someone who thinks Garrett brings fresh ideas.

Yeah we need more hooch and coke addled brains in Canberra!

We obviously don't need any more hooch and addled brains on big footy...

 

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
We obviously don't need any more hooch and addled brains on big footy...

I think there is already a glut of that on BF these days.

 

[MGREG]

Originally posted by Dippers Donuts
We obviously don't need any more hooch and addled brains on big footy...

Or more Fascist Serbian apologists.

 

[Dippers Donuts]

Originally posted by MGREG
Or more Fascist Serbian apologists.

Still got that chip on your shoulder I see.