Autopsy Gather round my fat hairy ass

[north_lad]

My impression is that teams with good mature midfields relish the opportunity to play against us. They know that they'll get a challenge but also believe they can get us with strength and endurance if required. Often when great teams play weaker teams, they can come down to the level of the opposition somewhat. I haven't seen that happen with us this year. Pressure and intensity, particular from Carlton and Bris today (up to half time) was really high! I think if good midfields enjoy the challenge of playing against us, it really is a positive, despite the results. A big negative, on the other hand, is the apparent hit we have taken to our confidence each week we lose the midfield battle. We seem to be getting less resilient with each pounding. It's not what you want to see.

Hope we see a team come out next week relaxed and ready to play with flair and gumption - as we saw in the first 30 mins against Freo. It's the only way we'll get a rewarding outcome (win or otherwise).

I recall they flashed up the "pressure rating" stat in the first quarter and for both sides it was like 200 each (whatever that means, it's not a stat I really understand). But I think there is definitely something in what you are saying. On the other hand, when Simpkin missed that pass going inside 50 and it bounced back the other end for a goal I got about as mad as I have over football in about 5 years

 

[Kangas_11]

I'm struggling to understand how all the messaging this week was about needing to be more physical at the contest, but the only change seems to be throwing 18 year old Colby McKercher more CBAs and telling Powell to just tackle everything.

 

[domiroo]

Put campaigners that want to play not these freeloading squibs . Should make 10 changes. Put in kids that will probably have a go lose big yes but at least they’ll go in . Supporters have had a gut full of this shot now . To come out at the start of the year and say we hate losing and being at the bottom bullshit . As John Kennedy said Doooo don’t think doooo at least you can say a did this I gave a handball or a smother . Ya pack of lazy ****ing money grabbing sucks . People will be leaving in droves . Clarkson has to be tougher . Every campaigner on there should be on a 1 year contract. Starting from the captains which one should be banished for ever .

 

[domiroo]

We are building for round 6 lads

 

[The Maestro]

A bigger concern for us might not be the lack of talent or any resemblance of a game plan, but the fact that this team and its senior players in particular look like they have accepted losing.

I saw a photo of Nick Hind

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Nick Hind

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30

Ht

180cm

Wt

78kg

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D/F

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Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.9

4star

MG

117.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

117.0

2star

D

10.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

after their hiding to port Adelaide and it looked like he was in tears.

 

[jaspers_barber]

My main take away is the compo we got from afl is sh1t. Greenwood, Shiels, and Logue the only mature players from other clubs with any ticker. Those guys crack in. Stephens, Fisher, Stephenson, Corr, Tucker, all downhill skiers. Might look good playing peripheral roles in good teams but fk me we need leadership out on the ground. I fear Jy might not ever get back to his best, McDonald pffftt, Zurhaar well is he worth a 5 year contract really?

I’d be playing Greenwood and Shiels every week just for their tenacity and on field leadership if nothing else. Sheez, Chom, Souva, LDU, X, Powell, Wardlaw, McKercher, Duursma, Scott are more or less locks.

Sure we’ve played quality opposition to start the season but there is no easy opposition and I’ve Seen enough to know we’ve cleaned out a lot of deadwood only to replace it with other clubs deadwood.

Get Phillips and George into the team over some of these imposters. They crack in and are talented. Give Lazarro a run of “make or break games” again he cracks in…..and start blooding Sellers and Finnbar. I also couldn’t give a flying fk about Zurhaar love him at times but I’d go as far to say one of the most over rated players of all time. He should be signing a 5 year deal without hesitation, fact he hasn’t say he buys into his own hype.

Rant over.

I genuinely think this is why we took the Duursma (3rd tall fwd/mid) direction over Sanders (pure mid) at the draft. Just a feeling I’ve got. I feel they’re planning for CZ to drink his own bath water and play elsewhere next year…

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

I hope those people who blamed the coaches, especially Noble, for our dismal seasons will now admit that the problem is we simply do not have good players. We can only get better when we turn this list over yet again. Only one player down back is of league standard and the rest are simply not up to it.

Clarkson cannot work miracles. His win loss ratio will soon approach the other men who had a go.

Most know also am a member at the Lions but I turned the game off at half time. It was too depressing.

A moment worth considering was in the second quarter when Stephens was as soft as butter in a marking contest with Berry. Young Wardlaw shows some appetite for the contest. I would have taken Stephens off, shown him the footage of the marking contest, and sent him back on.

 

[ShireSwan]

Couldn't find a trade/recruitment thread, and forgive the intrusion...

Your first round pick and a second, for Sean Darcy

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Sean Darcy

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26

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203cm

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111kg

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10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

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11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

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32.0

5star

and Freo's first.
North will be coming good next year after playing all your recent high end picks this year. Darcy in the middle is what you need.

Thread title is bloody fantastic btw.

 

[chickenonachain]

Is it a coincidence that Rawlins has worked at two different clubs and they are both sitting at the bottom of the ladder going nowhere ?

 

[Its a Process]

It's not a bad presser really. The rebuild really only has just begun. We have alot of the right people. We just need to grow together.

And if Zurhaar doesn't like it he can fk off.

Unfortunately this is the reality of our current position.

Unless the 25yr and older crew start to influence games we are at ground zero and it’s going to take a good year or two before we are consistent.

Dees and Blues had a few goes at it before getting it right and i think we are in the same predicament. We will end up turning over another bunch of experience this year with Greenwood, Shiels, Taylor and TT all gone.

It’s hard to enjoy the little wins but there have been a few.
Xerri
Comben
Sheez
Colby
Paul Curtis
Powell

FWIW I’m as frustrated with our senior blokes as anyone. Lmac, Jy, Corr, Tucker, Cam and Steevo. This lot have to step up and become important contributors, cannot just leave it to the kids.

 

[Harris 10]

Couldn't find a trade/recruitment thread, and forgive the intrusion...

Your first round pick and a second, for Sam Darcy and Freo's first.
North will be coming good next year after playing all your recent high end picks this year. Darcy in the middle is what you need.

Thread title is bloody fantastic btw.

That would be a ridiculous trade target for us.

 

[ShireSwan]

That would be a ridiculous trade target for us.

Why? Seems to me you need some big men that make you hard to play against. And an imposing ruck that can give your young mids first use...
He can't stay in Freo with Jackson being the future...I would have liked him at the Swans if we hadn't got Grundy - I'd rather have him instead tbh.

edit: I did mean Sean Darcy at Freo, not Sam at the Dogs.

 

[Marstermind]

Cue……next week “Big” NMFC media announcement “star forward Cam Zurhaar has shown his faith in the clubs development and future by signing on for at least another 5 years.”

More likely the big announcement being that more NMFC players hang their toilet roll "over' than 'under'.

 

[Its a Process]

We’ve copped a decent rogering in the middle over the past two weeks as a collective - might be time to give Phillips a little run to see if he can add some class in there.

 

[Only Forwards]

Why? Seems to me you need some big men that make you hard to play against. And an imposing ruck that can give your young mids first use...
He can't stay in Freo with Jackson being the future...I would have liked him at the Swans if we hadn't got Grundy - I'd rather have him instead tbh.

edit: I did mean Sean Darcy at Freo, not Sam at the Dogs.

Ruck isn’t a problem. Or at least not one we should be spending premium capital on.

our trade capital should be after a CHF.

 

[Harris 10]

Why? Seems to me you need some big men that make you hard to play against. And an imposing ruck that can give your young mids first use...
He can't stay in Freo with Jackson being the future...I would have liked him at the Swans if we hadn't got Grundy - I'd rather have him instead tbh.

edit: I did mean Sean Darcy at Freo, not Sam at the Dogs.

Xerri is going well in the ruck, spending quality picks on rucks would be a waste.
Sam would actually be a better option for us over Sean.

 

[Ardent Roo]

Is it a coincidence that Rawlins has worked at two different clubs and they are both sitting at the bottom of the ladder going nowhere ?

No, it's not.

 

[Ardent Roo]

Yep, and 2 of them a co-captains

Does it actually get any worse?

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Our 2 captains shone in assisting to hand all momentum to Brisbane in the first quarter.
1. McDonald cannons into his opponent after he takes the mark on our F50 line. 50m penalty results in scoring shot to Brisbane.
2. Simpkin clean misses a leading Larkey (I think it was) ball rebounds to Brisbane goal.

 

[shintemaster]

See I don’t think Brisbane were ultra impressive. Don’t get me wrong, clearly they were good and better than us but we were so abysmally s**t today.

They were bog standard for mine. We handed shots at goal to a couple of forwards that have struggled to look near it this year, constant turnovers giving our already raw backline zero chance. The one area we need to be strong is in the middle or it will be a very long year.

 

[shintemaster]

But really it's our players in their mid twenties collectively that are meant to be in their prime and they're just giving us nothing. What do they need to play to the maximum of their limited abilities? Maybe it's because they feel safe but honestly another game like this and screw the match day result, we need to give them a spell.

I don't think it's because they feel safe - it's because they're not good enough.

 

[DuckYeah]

Why? Seems to me you need some big men that make you hard to play against. And an imposing ruck that can give your young mids first use...
He can't stay in Freo with Jackson being the future...I would have liked him at the Swans if we hadn't got Grundy - I'd rather have him instead tbh.

edit: I did mean Sean Darcy at Freo, not Sam at the Dogs.

The blokes cooked! And so are you for suggesting that.

 

[DuckYeah]

Xerri is going well in the ruck, spending quality picks on rucks would be a waste.
Sam would actually be a better option for us over Sean.

You’d throw the sink at Sam Darcy. Sean is worth a second round pick.

 

[DuckYeah]

They were bog standard for mine. We handed shots at goal to a couple of forwards that have struggled to look near it this year, constant turnovers giving our already raw backline zero chance. The one area we need to be strong is in the middle or it will be a very long year.

Been saying it since the gws game.

 

[Shinboner '07]

Let’s look at the positives guys.

We lost by 75 points last year in the same game. This time we only lost by 70.

We are improving!

 

[danj]

More likely the big announcement being that more NMFC players hang their toilet roll "over' than 'under'.

Cue Danj’s avatar, we’ll done Sir!