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roscreasl98 said:
I'll give you an example of why the 3 division idea is crap.

And of course everyone knows my team.

Just say that your footy team (mine) is on the bottom of the ladder in its league, but the same teams netballers are in the top 4.
Do they send the footy team to division 3 and keep the netball team in division 2?

That will just serve to sever clubs internally.
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Very valid points. This decision would be one that is made over a very long period of time with the opinions of many sort and taken into consideration.
In my opinion I can't actually see a huge problem with the netball being played away from where the footy is? I can honestly say I think clubs are past that. Surely the leagues for figure something out such as just say Queenscliff footy is being played at Port in div 2 and their netball was division one and playing Grovedale both sides would play away. And same goes if Queenscliff were playing Port at home the netball would also be at home too?
Now I understand that this wouldn't be possible at all times but it wouldn't be the end of the world if they played away from each other.
 
Hawk202 said:
Very valid points. This decision would be one that is made over a very long period of time with the opinions of many sort and taken into consideration.
In my opinion I can't actually see a huge problem with the netball being played away from where the footy is? I can honestly say I think clubs are past that. Surely the leagues for figure something out such as just say Queenscliff footy is being played at Port in div 2 and their netball was division one and playing Grovedale both sides would play away. And same goes if Queenscliff were playing Port at home the netball would also be at home too?
Now I understand that this wouldn't be possible at all times but it wouldn't be the end of the world if they played away from each other.
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It is a huge problem if you are associated with a club (which you clearly aren't). Many clubs are known as Football Netball Clubs, not one or the other. They are 1 together.
 
roscreasl98 said:
It is a huge problem if you are associated with a club (which you clearly aren't). Many clubs are known as Football Netball Clubs, not one or the other. They are 1 together.
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Well I am associated,I'm just trying to have a different perspective rather than doom and gloom. Talk me through the issues that's come with it then. When colts started playing away from the seniors it was seen as a huge issue, now look at it.
 

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I recon inverleigh will get the chocolates against BHP but you never know because when it comes to tight game's BPH step up! It will be a interesting battle with
Kennedy-hunt vs cam addy
Might even see michael best go to jayden ettridge
And dalton vs barlow some big names up against each other i also think this will be the battle in the big dance come season end!

North will pump anakie as anakie have two many good players out for them and not to much depth with those blokes!
Banno will pants winch and show why it is at the top

Geelong west should come away with a win against Werribee both teams are better this year but west just have a few more high ended players then werribee both young teams tho!

East Geelong vs Thompson will be a good game and its gonna be to hard to call but im gonna swing in the way of east being there home game!

Coiro and Belmont that will be a tough one because both teams are struggling at the moment but belmont should win this because corio dont have an answer for vardy he will run wild with lemair putting it on his tit!
 
Hawk202 said:
Well I am associated,I'm just trying to have a different perspective rather than doom and gloom. Talk me through the issues that's come with it then. When colts started playing away from the seniors it was seen as a huge issue, now look at it.
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As I said most clubs are football/netball clubs now, and that happened for a reason. To keep them together. There are families that have representation in both, social functions, fundraising etc. They play at the same venue, home and away. Break that up, you break up the fabric that keeps clubs together. If your are associated with a club (other than K Rock or Afl Barwon) you would understand....
 
roscreasl98 said:
As I said most clubs are football/netball clubs now, and that happened for a reason. To keep them together. There are families that have representation in both, social functions, fundraising etc. They play at the same venue, home and away. Break that up, you break up the fabric that keeps clubs together. If your are associated with a club (other than K Rock or Afl Barwon) you would understand....
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Again, valid points in sayingBecause they won't always be at the same venue they can't have club functions together? Surely clubs are past this. Current clubs are big enough and strong enough to surely survive that.
 
No. They all play together, GFL, BFL and GDFL, that's how they survive. Your obviously not involved at a club.
Club people don't think like that
Are you K Rock, Addy or AFL Barwon? You represent one of them, but not sure which one yet.
 
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I don't like most of what Roscreas says but i think in this instance he is right. I don't think it is possible to separate the football and netball. I think that having them both in the same spot every week helps keep the crowds at a level that keeps some clubs open. Separating them means supporters have to choose which to attend if both football and netball are playing away at different grounds. This reduces the number at those games. Also football players enjoy watching the netball after their games and vice versa.
 
roscreasl98 said:
No. They all play together, GFL, BFL and GDFL, that's how they survive. Your obviously not involved at a club.
Club people don't think like that
Are you K Rock, Addy or AFL Barwon? You represent one of them, but not sure which one yet.
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The beauty is my friend, you'll never know.
geelongwfc said:
I don't like most of what Roscreas says but i think in this instance he is right. I don't think it is possible to separate the football and netball. I think that having them both in the same spot every week helps keep the crowds at a level that keeps some clubs open. Separating them means supporters have to choose which to attend if both football and netball are playing away at different grounds. This reduces the number at those games. Also football players enjoy watching the netball after their games and vice versa.
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I don't disagree with any of what you and old mate are saying, I'm just posting an alternate option which I think would be healthy for a club to try their best to promote a div 1 netball side and a div 1 football side. There is nothing out there in any way shape or form saying that clubs will be separated i am just providing an alternate opinion.
 
Let's put up this for an instance.
Let's say Newtown Football club, if they didn't have the netball club do you think they would not survive? My word they would survive. If your club is well run and still remain an entire entity together i cannot see there being a problem with one team playing away from each other.
(Roscoe, before you attack, remember these are just hypotheticals and are not real life. More than keen to have some solid discussion)
 
Hawk202 said:
Let's put up this for an instance.
Let's say Newtown Football club, if they didn't have the netball club do you think they would not survive? My word they would survive. If your club is well run and still remain an entire entity together i cannot see there being a problem with one team playing away from each other.
(Roscoe, before you attack, remember these are just hypotheticals and are not real life. More than keen to have some solid discussion)
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There's a lot of stuff spruiked on BF that's not real life.....
No, it won't and can't work, hypothetical or not.
 

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Maybe the powerhouses of Geelong Local footy would survive but i think most clubs in the GDFL and BFL would really struggle to separate. But i appreciate your opinion, and think it would be useful to trial for a year but i just don't think its possible in this instance.
 
One question I have about the three divisions is how the salary cap will work.
As it currently stands, all three leagues have different caps. What happens if someone from div 1 (GFL) gets dropped to div 2 (BFL). Do they have to cut player payments to adhere that leagues salary cap?
 
GullsFC said:
One question I have about the three divisions is how the salary cap will work.
As it currently stands, all three leagues have different caps. What happens if someone from div 1 (GFL) gets dropped to div 2 (BFL). Do they have to cut player payments to adhere that leagues salary cap?
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Well that my friend is a bloody good question if it ever goes ahead? And dont forget the points too, they vary from club to club in the GDFL.
 
I assume they would create a new salary cap and points system for the three divisions and if you were to drop or go up a division then you would either have to decrease spending if you drop or have the possibility to increase spending if your club can afford it if you go up. They probably would be similar to the figures now. GFL= Div 1, BFL= Div 2 and GDFL =Div 3
 
geelongwfc said:
I assume they would create a new salary cap and points system for the three divisions and if you were to drop or go up a division then you would either have to decrease spending if you drop or have the possibility to increase spending if your club can afford it if you go up. They probably would be similar to the figures now. GFL= Div 1, BFL= Div 2 and GDFL =Div 3
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This will be counter-productive to evening out the comps. It will be hard for clubs to recruit or maintain high quality players if they are dropping divisions and can no longer pay them what they had or are asking. I know that there are the outliers that are loyal, will stick around and aren't about the money (Cam Addie for example) but we all know success is driven from recruitment. Take a look at Inverleigh...they were on their knees four years ago but have been genuine flag contenders for the last couple and this is all attributed to being able to bring in quality players while keeping a core group. The only way you can do that is by spending money.
 
GullsFC said:
This will be counter-productive to evening out the comps. It will be hard for clubs to recruit or maintain high quality players if they are dropping divisions and can no longer pay them what they had or are asking. I know that there are the outliers that are loyal, will stick around and aren't about the money (Cam Addie for example) but we all know success is driven from recruitment. Take a look at Inverleigh...they were on their knees four years ago but have been genuine flag contenders for the last couple and this is all attributed to being able to bring in quality players while keeping a core group. The only way you can do that is by spending money.
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So do you think they should keep salary cap and points the same across all divisions. Do you think that would work because i think clubs like St Josephs and St Marys have more money than like your Newcomb, Anakie and Corio's. So they could pay more for players, so some of those Division 1 and 2 teams might only be up there because of there money. But it would be hard i'll admit for the commitee of clubs if one year they can spend $50,000 and work hard to raise that money and the next year their allowed to spend $80,000 and the coach is putting pressure on them to raise more money to buy better players.
 
By the way i have no idea what the current salary cap is in any of the leagues if someone knows off the top of their head
 
geelongwfc said:
So do you think they should keep salary cap and points the same across all divisions. Do you think that would work because i think clubs like St Josephs and St Marys have more money than like your Newcomb, Anakie and Corio's. So they could pay more for players, so some of those Division 1 and 2 teams might only be up there because of there money. But it would be hard i'll admit for the commitee of clubs if one year they can spend $50,000 and work hard to raise that money and the next year their allowed to spend $80,000 and the coach is putting pressure on them to raise more money to buy better players.
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I honestly don't have an answer as to how it might work out.
 
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