Roast Geelong can't develop young players

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He’ll learn quickly.
Lawson looks like a 200 gamer in a what? Less than 10 game patch.

He is the most poised rookie (as in inexperienced not as in rookie listed) player I can recall aside from Tim Kelly in the last 10-15 years for us. Even as much as Selwood. Not to say he’s another Selwood. Poise wasn’t Selwood’s thing. But yeah, composure, poise, decision making: he’s got it pouring out of him
 
Watched much Geelong in the back half of the year?
The kick on the left down the line with no room for error that hit his target. Good users behind the ball are gold dust.
 
The kick on the left down the line with no room for error that hit his target. Good users behind the ball are gold dust.

He’s Duncan’s perfect replacement.
A guy that can nail a kick like that.

Worth its weight in GOLD

Excited Gold GIF
 

Unawed and undeterred, new wave of Cats show anything is possible​

Every time you write the Cats off, they find a way to bounce back. And this time it's being led by a group of unheralded youngsters

Sure, Patrick Dangerfield made a strong contribution and Jeremy Cameron kicked a couple of late goals to finish with four for the night, the first a freakish effort from the left forward pocket that ignited the visitors.

But with five-time All-Australian Tom Stewart a late scratching, the variety of contributions was quite something.

This was a team missing Tom Hawkins and Cam Guthrie, who will play in the VFL on Saturday, along with Sam De Koning and Gary Rohan.

The midfield, questioned for so much of the season and seen as having a lack of depth, was magnificent.

On an Adelaide Oval surface that included Dangerfield, fellow Brownlow medallist Ollie Wines and vaunted trio Zak Butters, Jason Horne-Francis and Connor Rozee, it was Max Holmes who laid the foundations for the runaway victory.

Thrust into the centre square from the opening bounce, Holmes' first half was magnificent, as he not only helped stifle a perceived Port advantage in the middle of the ground, but was the catalyst for Geelong's rapid ball movement.

His centre clearance, ensuing three bounces and penetrating right foot kick that led to a Tyson Stengle goal midway through the second term summed up his impact beautifully.

At the half, Holmes had 16 disposals, a whopping 485m gained and six score involvements. He finished with a match-high 28 and 668m gained.


Along with Holmes, Geelong used speed to exit congestion and run Port off its legs. Dangerfield was explosive. While Gryan Miers, Brad Close, Shaun Mannagh and Tyson Stengle provided the perfect combination of pressure, powerful two-way running and goalkicking nous to bamboozle their shocked opponents.

After kicking six goals in last year's VFL Grand Final, Mannagh was a revelation in his first AFL final.

Three goals, three goal assists and a game-high 12 score involvements from his 23 disposals was quite the performance.

His tackle on Rozee to win a holding-the-ball decision late in the fourth quarter was indicative of his tenacity.

Stengle added four and Miers three, but it was two other first-time finals performers that helped lift Geelong to the final four again.

In just his 10th career game Lawson Humphries was a difference maker, with nine of his 20 disposals coming in the pivotal second quarter that saw Geelong kick five consecutive goals to take a 20-point advantage to the main break.

His hard running to overlap and receives handballs from teammates was eye-catching, as was his exquisite kicking off both feet.

Former Sun Jack Bowes, now in his second season at the Cats, lapped up every minute in that midfield that got the best of Port Adelaide. Two goals from 18 disposals that included four clearances was a great night out.

Either Port didn't do its homework or its defenders failed to heed the warnings, as time and again the smaller Cats were able to get goalside and wreak havoc.

All nine of Geelong's first-half goals came from general play, with a Stengle hat-trick coming from a combined total of about 30m from goal.

The faces are different, but the results are the same. New midfielders, first-time finalists, it doesn't matter, when the Cats hit the field in September, you know they're playing for premierships.
 

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I still think De Koning is our most important player heading forward. He's been a shell of the player he was in 2022 but his upside could be similar to Harris Andrews or Darcy Moore and having a player like that in any team is dynamite.

Humphries, De Koning, O'Sullivan, Mullin could shape up to be one of the best in the competition next year and beyond.
 
He is the most poised rookie (as in inexperienced not as in rookie listed) player I can recall aside from Tim Kelly in the last 10-15 years for us. Even as much as Selwood. Not to say he’s another Selwood. Poise wasn’t Selwood’s thing. But yeah, composure, poise, decision making: he’s got it pouring out of him

#lifeinpieces preach GIF by CBS
 
From the 2022 grand final side to tonight's QF side:

Out: Selwood, Hawkins, Stewart, C.Guthrie, Smith, Rohan, de Koning, Parfitt, O'Connor

In: Holmes, Dempsey, Mannagh, Neale, Mullin, Humphries, O.Henry, Bruhn, Bowes

Some very handy contributions tonight from all of those 'ins'.
Young bucks Dempsey, Humphries, Holmes, O.Henry, Bruhn and Neale totalled 39 score involvements (average 6.5 each).

"Old heads" Mannagh, Close, Miers, Stengle, Zuthrie and Atkins totalled 53 score involvements (average 8.8 each). Oh what's that? These guys will still be playing with each other for another 5-7 years (closer to 3 for Atkins)?

Damn.
 
Yep been a staggering turn around since 2022 , Scott , wells and Mackie do not get enough credit for the development of some very late picks into the young players we have now …again !!!

History does repeat

All I heard about the 2023 draft was that it was a stacked top 10-12, then another 10-12 'maybes' and then it was a spud farm after that.

We went tall with our early picks (Connor O'Sullivan and Mitch Edwards) so haven't really seen anything at AFL level yet from them. But it's incredible to me, given the pessimism going into the draft that we've got two players who look like they'll cruise to 100+ games (Mannagh and Humphries) with picks 36 and 64.
 
All I heard about the 2023 draft was that it was a stacked top 10-12, then another 10-12 'maybes' and then it was a spud farm after that.

We went tall with our early picks (Connor O'Sullivan and Mitch Edwards) so haven't really seen anything at AFL level yet from them. But it's incredible to me, given the pessimism going into the draft that we've got two players who look like they'll cruise to 100+ games (Mannagh and Humphries) with picks 36 and 64.
Been a huge debate on the cats board over the last 20 years if it’s the picks themselves or the development team that churns out the type of players we get with our late picks

No easy answer to that one really
 
People underestimate Geelong every year and I think it's understandable why. You just keep thinking they can't stay good forever, it has to go sour at some point. Then you look at the age demographic and the 'no names' they draft and think yes this is the year.

Then they remind you that they are elite at talent id and development. And well coached
 
People underestimate Geelong every year and I think it's understandable why. You just keep thinking they can't stay good forever, it has to go sour at some point. Then you look at the age demographic and the 'no names' they draft and think yes this is the year.

Then they remind you that they are elite at talent id and development. And well coached
It’ll happen eventually but the club has blooded the club with new talents well since 2022..might be a few more years just yet but you never really know it can turn pretty quickly
 
It’ll happen eventually but the club has blooded the club with new talents well since 2022..might be a few more years just yet but you never really know it can turn pretty quickly
It will be a combination of a few things that sets it off. It can be as simple as a coach leaving, recruiting staff leaving and so on.
 

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