Geelong on the peds...only idiots think so.

[Mahlepi]

The numbers of strikes per club are public information and are not suppressed by any club. Hawthorn only went to court to stop the printing of specific player names




Yes, let's . . . however none of your loaded questions deals with fact. I have dealt with one of your errors to show how completely off mark you are.

so you agree the afl was corrupt in allowing a team to play players that should have been suspended under the three strikes policy

 

[Lethality]

so you agree the afl was corrupt in allowing a team to play players that should have been suspended under the three strikes policy

No, you simply haven't established that this even happened.

 

[Josh_hawk]

You don't understand the concept of nothing was found. Investigated fully and nothing was found.

So any shreds of evidence that anything other than Actovegin was taken or asked for or are we to assume you're continuing to talk out of your arse... Again.

Investigated by Deloitte.

Who have what to do with what? And we're being paid by?

 

[Mahlepi]

No, you simply haven't established that this even happened.

so you claim the hawks took legal action to protect the identity of their drug takers
and you believe in some fabricated involvements of danks at geelong

 

[Lethality]

so you claim the hawks took legal action to protect the identity of their drug takers
and you believe in some fabricated involvements of danks at geelong

They're not fabricated involvements, Dank was given credit by Dean Robinson who was the fitness guru there at the time. So his involvement is established.

All I'm arguing is that you would have to be delusional to not have any doubts over the authenticity of the flags under the Dank/Robinson regime at Geelong. And I think that argument has been well established over the past few years at Essendon and also from what we know of the transplantation of Geelong's fitness program to Essendon.

 

[Mahlepi]

Investigated by Deloitte.

Who have what to do with what? And we're being paid by?

a simple question
fact hawks have an extra player on the field
question - Which team did the afl executive with ties to the mayblooms punish?

 

[Josh_hawk]

so you claim the hawks took legal action to protect the identity of their drug takers
and you believe in some fabricated involvements of danks at geelong

Fabricated involvements?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Investigated by Deloitte.

Who have what to do with what? And we're being paid by?

Clearly you don't understand what an external audit entails or how it works.

Clearly unfamiliar with the standards associated with auditing professionals. Clearly unfamiliar with how who pays the bill has no relevance. They get paid regardless of adverse findings or not and are amongst the most reputable of professionals. Deloitte have no motive to hypothetically fudge what they find and would be in breach of the Auditing standards.

 

[Mahlepi]

They're not fabricated involvements, Dank was given credit by Dean Robinson who was the fitness guru there at the time. So his involvement is established.
- was danks employed at geelong?
-was danks paid as a consultant at geelong?
All I'm arguing is that you would have to be delusional to not have any doubts over the authenticity of the flags under the Dank/Robinson regime at Geelong. And I think that argument has been well established over the past few years at Essendon and also from what we know of the transplantation of Geelong's fitness program to Essendon.

Do you believe in the implementation of the three strikes policy?

 

[Mahlepi]

Fabricated involvements?

yes, please provide proof that danks was a paid employee of geelong

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Do you believe in the implementation of the three strikes policy?

of course not. Hawthorn believe in 53rd strike policies and injunctions

 

[Lethality]

Do you believe in the implementation of the three strikes policy?

Do I believe that it existed or do I believe in it as an effective strategy? Yes to both.

You also pointed out that Dank did not have an official role at Geelong, but as I have argued, that doesn't make the operation any more legitimate, in fact an under the table role only casts further doubt as to the Geelong fitness program. If Dank was off the books, then who knows what else wasn't recorded? Dank was credited with having a big input into the program, so in terms of his involvement, payment is not required for proof.

 

[Josh_hawk]

Clearly you don't understand what an external audit entails or how it works.

Clearly unfamiliar with the standards associated with auditing professionals. Clearly unfamiliar with how who pays the bill has no relevance. They get paid regardless of adverse findings or not and are amongst the most reputable of professionals. Deloitte have no motive to hypothetically fudge what they find and would be in breach of the Auditing standards.

You should hear yourself!

Melt on I'll let myself out

 

[Mahlepi]

Do I believe that it existed or do I believe in it as an effective strategy? Yes to both.

You also pointed out that Dank did not have an official role at Geelong, but as I have argued, that doesn't make the operation any more legitimate, in fact an under the table role only casts further doubt as to the Geelong fitness program. If Dank was off the books, then who knows what else wasn't recorded? Dank was credited with having a big input into the program, so in terms of his involvement, payment is not required for proof.

what was trent croad peddling

 

[Josh_hawk]

what was trent croad peddling

To you?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You should hear yourself!

Melt on I'll let myself out

yes, see yourself out. You've been shown to have NFI anyway

 

[Lethality]

what was trent croad peddling

Nothing, he didn't end up selling anything, and this occured well after his AFL career.

He did not, as Dank has, supply drugs to clubs like Essendon and Geelong.

 

[Mahlepi]

To you?

Pharma Ventures - are you a shareholder?

 

[Josh_hawk]

yes, see yourself out. You've been shown to have NFI anyway

Honest question and please answer not with another question but a yes or no answer

If Hawthorn had the same connection with Dank and Robinson paid or otherwise in 2008 would you be as accepting of the Deloitte audit and the ramblings you are producing?

 

[Paul Kersey]

Might be time to tweet Robbo and make him aware of this thread. He'll be looking to deflect from Essendon plus it has been established over the course of the past 70 odd pages that Geelong used PEDS. He'll back the right horse this time.

 

[Mahlepi]

Nothing, he didn't end up selling anything, and this occured well after his AFL career.

He did not, as Dank has, supply drugs to clubs like Essendon and Geelong.

there is no categorical statement of trent not selling or buying peptides whilst at the maybloomers


Actovegin is permitted for use by athletes in Australia and has been widely used by AFL clubs.

 

[Lethality]

there is no categorical statement of trent not selling or buying peptides whilst at the maybloomers

So? There is no reason to think he was. We have plenty of reason to be suspicious of Dank and Robinson however, particularly when, as has been admitted already in this thread, he wasn't even on the books!

Actovegin is permitted for use by athletes in Australia and has been widely used by AFL clubs.

Actovegin is just a red herring, it's already been established that Dank was involved long before the Actovegin drugs.

 

[Mahlepi]

Honest question and please answer not with another question but a yes or no answer

If Hawthorn had the same connection with Dank and Robinson paid or otherwise in 2008 would you be as accepting of the Deloitte audit and the ramblings you are producing?

YES

Serious question. Do you believe that the implementation of the three strikes policy (and the removal of the self reporting) correctly would cost the Maybloomers and the Pies a flag?

 

[Mahlepi]

So? There is no reason to think he was. We have plenty of reason to be suspicious of Dank and Robinson however, particularly when, as has been admitted already in this thread, he wasn't even on the books!



Actovegin is just a red herring.

obviously the hawks had trent to supply at wholesale prices - there was no need for danks

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Honest question and please answer not with another question but a yes or no answer

If Hawthorn had the same connection with Dank and Robinson paid or otherwise in 2008 would you be as accepting of the Deloitte audit and the ramblings you are producing?

if there was an untoward connection then still yes. Dare say that an audit would find all that out anyway. So a moot question.

The error that the lowest common denominator is making assuming that because we knocked him back, on the basis of some articles that we were dealing with him off the record. The difference between us and Essendon is that we didn't allow the illegal substances, Hocking had reservations about what Dank wanted to do and turned him away.