Geelong rorting the system

[Freddy Swift]

Cat fans often say they are 'just a really well run club.' What is that exactly? In what ways specifically are they better run than other clubs?

Also, apparently players will happily accept 'unders' to play for Geelong. That being the case, how do the players who are being paid unders feel when someone like Cameron or now Bailey Smith

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come in and are being paid big money? Do they get a bit pissed off or what's the go?

Genuinely interested.

 

[PhatBoy]

Cat fans often say they are 'just a really well run club.' What is that exactly? In what ways specifically are they better run than other clubs?

Also, apparently players will happily accept 'unders' to play for Geelong. That being the case, how do the players who are being paid unders feel when someone like Cameron or now Bailey Smith come in and are being paid big money? Do they get a bit pissed off or what's the go?

Genuinely interested.

I’m genuinely interested in all the premium A graders we allegedly have.

 

[Freomaniac]

Extra home game? With the least home games in the league, that is BigFooty logic at its best

Well according to the MCG tenants, they get less home games or home ground advantages towards most clubs.

I have no issues in cats having 10 home games in Geelong.

Put it this way.... Cats rake in more profits and money getting 40,000 paying $40 a ticket at Kardinia compared to 55,000 people paying $40 a ticket at Docklands.

Why? Because Kardinia Park rent is dirt cheap compared to Docklands

So if it's Collingwood vs Richmond, who gets the home ground advantage? LoL.

 

[Freomaniac]

And don’t forget Tim Kelly - overlooked by the 2 WA teams in successive years.

As for pick 7 in 2022, that offer was open to all 17 clubs, the condition being Jack Bowes came with the pick. As it happened, Bowes had been on Cats’ radar.

There was a small reason why Tim Kelly was overlooked by not only the local WA clubs but all 18 clubs in general 1 or 2 years before he was drafted.

But let's fill in the blanks.

Why was Tim Kelly taken by the cats at pick 24 in 2017?

Well.... The bloke averaged 28 disposals a game in the WAFL and helped South Fremantle make a preliminary final in that 2017 WAFL season.

So.... Why wasn't he picked up in the 2016 AFL draft as a late pick or rookie pick or pre season draft?

He only averaged 20 disposals a game in the WAFL.

Again.... Why wasn't he taken in the 2015 AFL draft? Again... He only averaged 20 disposals in the WAFL.

So essentially he stood out in 2017. But he was a solid 20 disposals a game mid in the last 2 seasons.

It's not a personal knock on anyone. It's just the way it is.

 

[Freomaniac]

They've become a professional AFL club instead of being the VFL's country bumpkins as they once were. Things have been taken much more seriously since 2000.

That is true....

Some Big footy posters on here are asking about the Cats and the Salary cap. Yep they got and traded in Bailey Smith from the Bulldogs.

Let us Be Honest here.

I personally wouldnt mind playing for the cats. Salary cap is $17 million

Hand me a 5 or 6 year deal at $3,120,000.

I am happy to be paid 3 million over 5 or 6 seasons.

More than happy to be paid $10,000 a week or $520,000 a year for 6 years.

More than happy to be paid $12,000 a week or $624,000 a year for 5 years.




Again, I am not pot shotting Any AFL club or clubs. I am dead certain there is a fair amount of cats players on $500,000 to $600,000 a year. Its not exactly centrelink money.

There is 45 players in an AFL list. Salary cap increases a small bit each season. It will eventually hit 20 million.

I said this on other threads. Minimum Playing list salary cap should drop down to 90 percent or even 92.5 percent.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

There are too many losers on this site.

If you believe in the Dank/Robinson Geelong are cheats conspiracy then you are one of those losers.
Be better. We're clean.

Deal with it.

 

[Freomaniac]

There are too many losers on this site.

If you believe in the Dank/Robinson Geelong are cheats conspiracy then you are one of those losers.
Be better. We're clean.

Deal with it.

Dank and Robinson are the last 2 blokes I am thinking of.

 

[Bunnings]

There was a small reason why Tim Kelly was overlooked by not only the local WA clubs but all 18 clubs in general 1 or 2 years before he was drafted.

But let's fill in the blanks.

Why was Tim Kelly taken by the cats at pick 24 in 2017?

Well.... The bloke averaged 28 disposals a game in the WAFL and helped South Fremantle make a preliminary final in that 2017 WAFL season.

So.... Why wasn't he picked up in the 2016 AFL draft as a late pick or rookie pick or pre season draft?

He only averaged 20 disposals a game in the WAFL.

Again.... Why wasn't he taken in the 2015 AFL draft? Again... He only averaged 20 disposals in the WAFL.

So essentially he stood out in 2017. But he was a solid 20 disposals a game mid in the last 2 seasons.

It's not a personal knock on anyone. It's just the way it is.

Geelong is one of the oldest sporting clubs, and One of the oldest Australian football clubs. They are over an hour away from Melbourne, you aren’t suggesting after 150 years they have to go play in Melbourne after they’ve shown it’s more than sustainable to play in Geelong?

Not sure what your point is really? They shouldn’t get the same amount of home games as others?

 

[Freomaniac]

Geelong is one of the oldest sporting clubs, and One of the oldest Australian football clubs. They are over an hour away from Melbourne, you aren’t suggesting after 150 years they have to go play in Melbourne after they’ve shown it’s more than sustainable to play in Geelong?

Not sure what your point is really? They shouldn’t get the same amount of home games as others?

read my post again... It had Nothing to do with Property prices in Geelong.

I simply replied on why Tim Kelly wasnt drafted before the 2017 AFL draft.

 

[Iago]

The Geelong "Costa Living Allowance" where players are steered into "well priced" real estate and can't fail property development schemes.

The sea air down there does wonders for players mental well being and their retirement funds

Are they as nice as the houses near the beach in the West of Adelaide where the Crows players live? I wonder how many of them are paid for by players returning from interstate, or do they get the keys when they sign a contract?

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Fashion deals and Cats connections — why this AFL star's trade request has raised eyebrows in footy circles

Trade requests are far from rare in the AFL, but Bailey Smith's connection to a Geelong fashion company has pundits questioning whether clubs are on a level playing field.

www.abc.net.au

I suspect that players partners like Emma Hawkins, being paid as a Cotton On brand ambassador, would make it easier for Hawkins to take a reduced salary from the Salary Cap.

Didn’t Rebecca Judd, get something similar.

 

[Footy Smarts]

I love the cotton on Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

stuff.

He started modelling for them at the start of 2022. So for 3 years he has been paid money by cotton on while playing for the Bulldogs.

Naturally this is evidence for Geelong rorting the salary cap.

 

[Elixuh]

Its happening again

 

[Breretonisahood]

Geelong has been a regular finalist since the 1960s. Crap in the 70s and unable to win flags in 80s/90s, but still a great record overall. This doesn’t come from rorting, or luck or geography. To me, sustained success is a sign of a well run club. This is hard to admit, but there, I said it!

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Its happening again

I thought this was a pisstake

 

[PhatBoy]

Its happening again

lol, the Lions have - or have had, I’m not sure if it still exists, their own coaches sponsor arrangement with Youi which you can bet your bottom dollar would have some nice perks and Fagan himself works for several motivational speaking groups (Scott works for one as well) which would all be written into their coaching terms as a way for them to earn extra money while they work.

But yeah this is why we keep making finals

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Elixuh. You desperately need to get a life.

 

[PhatBoy]

Considering the guy coached for nothing 5 years ago I think we can probably excuse him getting a token off field role wearing a suit.

 

[tiger_tough]

Good on them. Take any advantage you can get.

 

[Elixuh]

Elixuh. You desperately need to get a life.

Hey, its the worlds most serious 107,000 post Geelong supporter!

 

[Boxhead_31]

lol, the Lions have - or have had, I’m not sure if it still exists, their own coaches sponsor arrangement with Youi which you can bet your bottom dollar would have some nice perks and Fagan himself works for several motivational speaking groups (Scott works for one as well) which would all be written into their coaching terms as a way for them to earn extra money while they work.

But yeah this is why we keep making finals

Guess these kind of deals only become problematic when it is Geelong doing it

Youi signs on as Official Coaches Partner

Award winning insurer, Youi, is on board as the official coaches’ partner of the Brisbane Lions, adding even further Queensland energy to the club.

www.lions.com.au

 

[SSSSSS]

Crooked Chris can't keep getting away with this.

 

[cryptor]

Guess these kind of deals only become problematic when it is Geelong doing it

Youi signs on as Official Coaches Partner

Award winning insurer, Youi, is on board as the official coaches’ partner of the Brisbane Lions, adding even further Queensland energy to the club.

www.lions.com.au

Very clear from that article that it's just a sponsorship arrangement. Not a BS role setup for him within their company.

 

[PhatBoy]

Very clear from that article that it's just a sponsorship arrangement. Not a BS role setup for him within their company.

You don’t realise they’re essentially exactly the same thing? A company paying someone - or persons plural - to be an ambassador or billboard for their company via a sponsorship or in one case, a token role?

 

[PhatBoy]

Again, this is why we make finals.