Opinion Geelong's era of dominance over

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Who’s doing the robbing exactly?
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Now do Bowes (minus sub game), Bruhn and O.Henry for 2024. The 19 year old has time.
 
It's interesting looking back at the 2022 premiership team, who's gone out of/come in to the side and how the remaining players from that team are tracking compared to where they were two years ago:

B: Sam de Koning, Jack Henry, Jake Kolodjashnij
HB: Tom Stewart, Zach Tuohy, Jed Bews
C: Mark Blicavs, Mark O'Connor, Mitch Duncan
HF: Brad Close, Jeremy Cameron, Isaac Smith
F: Tyson Stengle, Tom Hawkins, Gary Rohan
R: Rhys Stanley, Patrick Dangerfield, Cam Guthrie
I/C: Joel Selwood, Tom Atkins, Gryan Miers, Zach Guthrie
Sub: Brandan Parfitt

Now...from that team, Selwood, Smith, C.Guthrie, Bews and Rohan have not featured regularly in 2024. Selwood and Smith are no longer on the list, Bews' form is currently not warranting selection, Guthrie and Rohan have been injured all season. In Guthrie's case, he'll be a huge inclusion into the midfield, Rohan may be battling to regain a spot in the forward line. So we'll say four outs from the aforementioned five, only Guthrie is probably in our best team as it stands.

Taking those spots are Max Holmes, Tanner Bruhn, Ollie Henry and Ollie Dempsey. I'd argue that's at least breaking even with the players that went out. With everyone available, I'd probably also leave Tuohy out on current form for Jack Bowes and just giving the nod to Atkins over Jhye Clark as sub (really a toss of the coin) leaving the team essentially looking like this:

B: Mark O'Connor, Jack Henry, Jake Kolodjashnij
HB: Tom Stewart, Sam de Koning, Zach Guthrie
C: Mark Blicavs, Max Holmes, Ollie Dempsey
HF: Brad Close, Jeremy Cameron, Gryan Miers
F: Tyson Stengle, Tom Hawkins, Ollie Henry
R: Rhys Stanley, Patrick Dangerfield, Cam Guthrie
I/C/sub: Brandan Parfitt, Mitch Duncan, Jack Bowes, Tanner Bruhn
Sub: Tom Atkins
Fringe (veterans and players who've featured in 2024): Jhye Clark (inside mid) Zach Tuohy (utility), Jed Bews (small defender), Gary Rohan (medium forward), Shaun Mannagh (mid/forward), Mitch Knevitt (tall midfielder), Toby Conway (ruck), Connor O'Sullivan (tall defender), Shannon Neale (key forward, backup ruck), Oisin Mullin (small defender/wing)

From the remaining premiership players, on current most recent 2024 form, I'd say the following are roughly performing at their 2022 level: O'Connor, J.Henry, Kolodjashnij, Stewart, de Koning (a welcome return to form over the last fortnight), Blicavs, Duncan, Close, Cameron and Dangerfield. I'd have Stengle and Hawkins as borderline for this group, they've been very good so far, but not sure about quite reaching their 2022 AA standards.

The players whom I'd say have probably dropped off a tad would be Tuohy, Bews, Stanley and Atkins, hence most of those guys are pretty borderline for a spot in the side when it's at full strength. The players whom I think have undoubtedly improved since 2022 are Miers, Z.Guthrie, Parfitt. Rohan and C.Guthrie are N/As at the moment. And then you have Holmes, Dempsey, Bowes, Bruhn, O.Henry and Clark as the new regulars in the 2024 lineup.

This obviously doesn't guarantee anything, but I think it's at least a reasonable argument that the 2022 grand final team isn't significantly better on paper to the team that will be available for selection for Round 6.
 
Not sure what this is meant to prove.

How well his opponent plays is a huge thing for a full back. Since round 1 against King, SDK has been good on that front.

Not all of our defenders can be elite for intercepts. We spread it out after Stewart, who is the main interceptor.

SDK, Kolo and J.Henry have worked well as a unit this season. Better than 2023 when form, injuries and trying to throw Sav in left things fairly muddled.
 

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Now take out the game where he started as the sub (returning from injury) and picked up 8 disposals in less than a quarter on the ground.
I can do Falcon a favour and actually extrapolate that last quarter sub to a full game, then recalculate? Since he didn't want to remove it.

That would give him a 32 disposal rather than 8 disposal data point.

Cleansweep17 what do you reckon?
 
Dude he’s played 4 games off an injury.

The game before he got 30 disposals and 3rd BOG according the the coaches. I thought we agreed to stop trolling.
I'm not sure how it's trolling to say Martin's 2023 Round 1-13 and 2024 Round 1-6 form has been average. He was fantastic from about round 14 last year.

Again with the excuses too. Dangerfield played the back half of 2023 with broken ribs/punctured lung and could barely move. Spare me.
 
Reid is going to be a good player isn’t he. See what a good pick can do to a side. There is a reason why they are comparing him to Dusty instead of Jnr.

lol.

He does look a good player. He isn’t going to turn the eagles into a contender though, is he. He didn’t beat you on the weekend. A forward taking 8 contested marks and converting them into 6 goals beat you.
Reid’s quality will mean jack shit with nothing else around him so just assuming that you will a) pick up a player as good as him and b) pull all the right strings at exactly the right time and get the right players alongside him is a long bow to draw
 
lol.

He does look a good player. He isn’t going to turn the eagles into a contender though, is he. He didn’t beat you on the weekend. A forward taking 8 contested marks and converting them into 6 goals beat you.
Reid’s quality will mean jack s**t with nothing else around him so just assuming that you will a) pick up a player as good as him and b) pull all the right strings at exactly the right time and get the right players alongside him is a long bow to draw
Reid was great but Yeo and Waterman blew Richmond apart.

Once Dangerfield and co are gone it's probably time to bring Reid home. Isn't Tongola a suburb of Geelong?

Out: Dangerfield and Hawkins
In: Reid and JUH

Would make a few heads on here explode.
 
I'm not sure how it's trolling to say Martin's 2023 Round 1-13 and 2024 Round 1-6 form has been average. He was fantastic from about round 14 last year.

Again with the excuses too. Dangerfield played the back half of 2023 with broken ribs/punctured lung and could barely move. Spare me.

Spare what mate? Last round he literally got 3rd BOG. If that’s average to you ok.
 
lol.

He does look a good player. He isn’t going to turn the eagles into a contender though, is he. He didn’t beat you on the weekend. A forward taking 8 contested marks and converting them into 6 goals beat you.
Reid’s quality will mean jack s**t with nothing else around him so just assuming that you will a) pick up a player as good as him and b) pull all the right strings at exactly the right time and get the right players alongside him is a long bow to draw

Contender when? Not now, but if you get a few more Reid’s in your team you will be a contender in 5ish years.
 

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