No Oppo Supporters General AFL and other clubs discussion thread. **Opposition fans not welcome**

[Bumpswithagrin]

I put $5 on * at $19. If GWS choke as I bet then I'm getting the most ridiculous $95 ever won.

I also had a small wager on Essendon, on the basis that there is an upset most weekends

 

[kimbopen]

Seriously don't understand the goal review

Some weeks they'll call a ball that's miles over the line marked/touched
Other weeks it can be clearly on the line and it's a goal

In the Ess v gws game they decided conclusively it was touched when it was far from conclusive

I'm at the game, and I was certain that the ball was over the line before it was touched.

 

[grumbleguts]

So there is an apparent rule, all interstate teams can throw the ball.

 

[cryptor]

GWS are my last leg on a 5 leg multi paying $250 odd. Having them drop this game is worth the price of admission. Win-win.

 

[burger09]

So there is an apparent rule, all interstate teams can throw the ball.

Didn't you know that?

Part of their, conditions of entry, contracts.
It is in the fine print. But its there.

Along with "will be promoted over and above all victorian teams in the interest of futher expansion and betterment of the game".

 

[OzJohnnie]

GWS are my last leg on a 5 leg multi paying $250 odd. Having them drop this game is worth the price of admission. Win-win.

I should have put the money on the halftime lead. But you'll still get your cash. GWS are going to run away from here.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Surely that was a free to Fantasia?
Both high and front on contact

 

[Badesumofu]

GWS seem to have a bottomless supply of young stars. Hopper and now Kennedy. Probably a top 4 side this year and you'd have to expect them to continue to improve each year for a while yet. And the thing is when players do get squeezed out they can trade them for more high draft picks to recruit even more guns and they already have the depth to replace the players they lose. They could contend for a very, very long time.

As for today - they should still win but the hit to their percentage could yet help us. I'd start them favourites in every one of their remaining matches but you'd expect them to lose one or two. I'd love to play them in the GF.

 

[Taskmaster]

The afl's love child are a ****en joke. Can't wait to see these pricks fall in a ****en heap come finals.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Dempsey absolutely cost Essendon the game

Tried to be the hero when it was just 8 pts in it, misses 3 shots, turns it over twice

As for gws
It's going to be unbearable leading up to finals with the smoke blowing by the media, but they'll fail miserably (they play no one above them on the ladder, and play 7 of the bottom 8)

 

[RobHawk]

Today proved this artificial team known as GWS is very beatable.Amazing how much the collective arrogance of its players is wildly outpacing its still very modest achievements.Toby Green and Stephen Coniglio strut around like they have won the last 3 flags and Brownlows between them.

 

[jak]

As for gws
It's going to be unbearable leading up to finals with the smoke blowing by the media, but they'll fail miserably (they play no one above them on the ladder, and play 7 of the bottom 8)

It's going to be wall to wall gws leading into the finals. Pity the media doesn't understand that the traditional supporter doesn't give a shite or care.

 

[Wundo]

Danger can do it all, but by far his most unmatchable trait is chest puffing.

Best i can remember. Makes derm look like a try hard.

Combine this with his bobble head and he is the king peacock(head).

Can play though.

I think the words we spit are "begrudging respect"

 

[Davo23]

The afl's love child are a ****en joke. Can't wait to see these pricks fall in a ****en heap come finals.

The problem also is that GWS is a "who cares" team. It's got no heart or soul.

No one really cares about them and the only thing I would care about is that they beat some other team like Sydney or Geelong, to prevent them from winning a premiership.

Apart from that, it's going to be boring if they win.

 

[H2F]

MM the vagueness of the rules is on purpose ... No one at all knows the rules clearly any more. This I believe is a strategy by the AFL. Through vagueness and constant swings in interpretation accountability is zero and we have no way of even questioning anything anymore. It's corrupt there is no other explanation... No organisation leading with integrity could have such a farcical umpiring department ...

 

[JustKickIt]

The problem also is that GWS is a "who cares" team. It's got no heart or soul.

No one really cares about them and the only thing I would care about is that they beat some other team like Sydney or Geelong, to prevent them from winning a premiership.

Apart from that, it's going to be boring if they win.

They should be just called "AFL Franchise" - Soulless name for a soulless organization.

 

[ChinaTim]

MM the vagueness of the rules is on purpose ... No one at all knows the rules clearly any more. This I believe is a strategy by the AFL. Through vagueness and constant swings in interpretation accountability is zero and we have no way of even questioning anything anymore. It's corrupt there is no other explanation... No organisation leading with integrity could have such a farcical umpiring department ...

Brad Scott - pleased you could join us

 

[Glacier]

I am over all this so called ducking controversy
Until the AFL/Media single out the player directly responsible for starting the trend of dipping the shoulders and drawing high contact the stop whining about the likes of Thomas, Sicily etc
But no, they will not point the finger at Joel Selwood
So until they do, I say if you can draw a free kick this way then go for it

 

[Spanish Sahara]

I actually like gws

 

[bris tarangau]

They should be just called "AFL Franchise" - Soulless name for a soulless organization.

The AFL franchise model(s) has/have not been successful. Need a serious re-think about how to keep current teams sustainable and keep the interest up in other states.

 

[Brishawk]

MM the vagueness of the rules is on purpose ... No one at all knows the rules clearly any more. This I believe is a strategy by the AFL. Through vagueness and constant swings in interpretation accountability is zero and we have no way of even questioning anything anymore. It's corrupt there is no other explanation... No organisation leading with integrity could have such a farcical umpiring department ...

The worst part of all is that deliberate out of bounds has become equivalent to holding the ball in that supporters will cry out for a decision every time the ball goes out off an opposition disposal and they cheer wildly if the umpire makes the call. Supporters aren't cheering good play, they are cheering an arbitrary judgment by an official made in the moment. The AFL's endless tinkering is giving umpiring a much higher profile than it out to in such a spectacular and entertaining sport. I can't see how that is a good thing for the game or the umpires. More pressure and scrutiny doesn't lead to better decisions, just more angry supporters.

 

[play2win]

regarding the ducking and free kicks for high contact. why do we pay a high free kick for a tackle high on the shoulder? tackling a player on their shoulders is not dangerous, is it only because it is in the vicinity of the neck/head? if we eliminate that as a free kick that would contribute towards some of the bs frees being paid when a player shrugs a legitimate tackle and gets a free from lifting the arms and/or ducking. only pay high frees for head/neck contact that is dangerous to a players well being.

 

[cryptor]

regarding the ducking and free kicks for high contact. why do we pay a high free kick for a tackle high on the shoulder? tackling a player on their shoulders is not dangerous, is it only because it is in the vicinity of the neck/head? if we eliminate that as a free kick that would contribute towards some of the bs frees being paid when a player shrugs a legitimate tackle and gets a free from lifting the arms and/or ducking. only pay high frees for head/neck contact that is dangerous to a players well being.

Top of the shoulder is directly adjacent to the neck. By penalising a tackle over the shoulders too it encourages players to get lower and make the chances of getting the neck or head very low.

But of course that's only in theory. There's no doubt that certain players are using variations of a technique that is aimed to draw a high free kick. And it needs to stop.

If ducking the head is now considered prior opportunity then they should extend this to include players who when tackled intentionally buckle at the knees, lean into tackles, shrug their shoulders, raise their arms to try and get arms/hands to slip up, or those that oil up their arms/shoulders. It should also extend to those that keep their head down when picking up a loose ball to get high contact.

Essentially if you try to break a tackle and get hit in the head then it's a free for HTB against you. The only times that this won't be the case and you will get a free kick for high contact is where you have not made an attempt to evade the tackle or in your attempt to evade the tackle you maintained or raised your head height and didn't contribute to the contact by manipulating the tackler through your own arm and shoulder movements.

As for picking up a loose ball. If you linger with your head down longer than what is reasonable then that is your prior opportunity. What is "reasonable" time? Hard to say but I think it's very obvious to most when a player is delaying coming back up.

 

[LuckyHawk]

I'm no fan of Eddie McGuire but his comments about Caroline Wilson were simply a bit of light hearted humour and
in context to the verbal stoushes they've had over the years. I cannot believe our social engineering afl and champions of
political correctness are at it again on this one. How about lightweight McClaughlin and his merry men concentrate on
running the game properly which at the moment has got more holes than a girl's school.

 

[hfc70]

Breaking news !!!!!

AFL has penalised NMFC by enforcing they sign Brad Scott for a further 5 years as coach, plus a $50,000 fine.

President Bratshaw is said to be livid and is seeking an appeal.