Current General Crime Chat: disturbing killers, other crimes and miscellaneous stuff

[SaintsSeptember]

What does it say about someone writing a ‘ good’ character reference for a sex offender? Lower than low IMO.

If its the truth , its the truth.

"Fred worked for me and he never molested the women, well not that i know of "
if its true.
Its better than "fred couldn't keep his hands off anyone male or female or unspecified ".

 

[jason_recliner]

WARNING: Incredibly distressing / triggering content

Beinash Batool and Urfan Sharif found guilty of daughter Sarah Sharif's murder in UK​

At just 10, Sara Sharif was a feisty girl who dreamed of being a princess, seen strumming a ukulele and singing happily. But just two days later, she was dead, her body found bearing horrific marks of abuse from those who were meant to protect her. Now, her father and step mother have been found guilty of her murder in a British court.

On August 10, 2023, UK police officers received a 999 call from a distraught man.
Responders tried to calm him down, asking what was wrong, before Urfan Sharif told them he had "legally punished" his child and she was dead.

He told the operator it was not his intention to murder Sara but he had "beat her up too much". Police kept Sharif on the phone for eight-and-a-half minutes as he grew increasingly insistent. "I killed my daughter!" he repeated twice on the call.

Officers were already on their way to the Sharif home in Woking, Surrey, where they found an unimaginable scene. Sara's father had left a note, reading 'I killed Sara', and asking for a traditional burial. But Sharif, his brother and Sara's stepmother Beinash Batool were not there. Two days prior, they had booked a plane for Pakistan...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-12/sarah-sharif-father-and-stepmother-guilty-of-murder/104716636

Hard not to cry for the little angel

Father and stepmother jailed for life over murder of 10-year-old Sara Sharif​

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12...pmother-sentenced-to-life-in-prison/104739718

Better than nothing but it doesn't take away her pain and suffering or bring her back.

 

[CD Xbow]

This is a disturbing story. I'm not sure we have discussed SLD in the crime forum.

Child murderer remains behind bars after court hears of revenge plans

After hearing concerns over his plans for revenge, violence, and tampering with his monitoring device, the NSW Supreme Court has refused to release a man convicted of murdering a child on the Central Coast.

www.abc.net.au

'SLD, who was a teenager when he murdered a child on the Central Coast, served 22 years in prison for the crime.
After being released on parole in April 2023, he was taken back into custody six months later for breaching a strict supervision order. The breach occurred when SLD interacted with a woman and her toddler at Bulli Beach near Wollongong, violating conditions prohibiting him from associating with children.'

He was 13 years old when he murdered toddler Courtney Morley-Clarke on the NSW Central Coast in January 2001 by pulling her from her bed in the middle of the night, stabbing her through the heart and leaving her body in long grass.

 

[Kurve]

This is a disturbing story. I'm not sure we have discussed SLD in the crime forum.

Child murderer remains behind bars after court hears of revenge plans

After hearing concerns over his plans for revenge, violence, and tampering with his monitoring device, the NSW Supreme Court has refused to release a man convicted of murdering a child on the Central Coast.

www.abc.net.au

'SLD, who was a teenager when he murdered a child on the Central Coast, served 22 years in prison for the crime.
After being released on parole in April 2023, he was taken back into custody six months later for breaching a strict supervision order. The breach occurred when SLD interacted with a woman and her toddler at Bulli Beach near Wollongong, violating conditions prohibiting him from associating with children.'

He was 13 years old when he murdered toddler Courtney Morley-Clarke on the NSW Central Coast in January 2001 by pulling her from her bed in the middle of the night, stabbing her through the heart and leaving her body in long grass.

I didn't know about this, it's frightening and I wonder how he was caught because often these kinds of killers who start young, get away with it when they're in their teens. I've been saying on the William Tyrrell thread for a long time, the only way I could see William went with someone quietly or could have been coaxed, would be by another kid or kids and that the cops should have checked who might have been off school that day.

Also, frightening as I moved away from the area but still have family in Bulli.

 

[BFew]

An absolute shocker of what appears to be gross negligence by the State of NSW, as per recently released Coroners findings from an earlier this year inquest into the 2020 Torture Death of Simon Cartright in Custody.

Looks like the previous NSW State Government leaders and Ministers Responsible (especially corrections Minister Geoff Lee who is currently a Professor at Western Sydney University's School of Business) need to at least come out and publicly and privately apologise to the Cartright family, not just the current NSW State Government.

Too late to apologise to Simon Cartright's mother, who sadly died before the Deputy State Coroner handed down her findings earlier this month.

‘Pleading and begging’: prison guards switched off water to cell of mentally ill, dying inmate held at Silverwater jail

Exclusive: Simon Cartwright’s family is taking legal action against NSW government after coroner finds his death was preventable

www.theguardian.com

“Simon’s death was preventable,” the coroner found. “This inquest highlights that [Corrective Services NSW] is not and should not be placed in a position to care for a mentally ill person.”

'The family is now taking legal action against the NSW government and has called for urgent reform.'

'Cartwright’s family have spent years fighting for answers. They were initially told nothing about the circumstances of his death and buried him without knowing why he had died.'

https://coroners.nsw.gov.au/documents/findings/2024/Inquest_into_the_death_of_Simon_Cartwright.pdf

 

[CD Xbow]

An absolute shocker of what appears to be gross negligence by the State of NSW, as per recently released Coroners findings from an earlier this year inquest into the 2020 Torture Death of Simon Cartright in Custody.

Looks like the previous NSW State Government leaders and Ministers Responsible (especially corrections Minister Geoff Lee who is currently a Professor at Western Sydney University's School of Business) need to at least come out and publicly and privately apologise to the Cartright family, not just the current NSW State Government.

Too late to apologise to Simon Cartright's mother, who sadly died before the Deputy State Coroner handed down her findings earlier this month.

‘Pleading and begging’: prison guards switched off water to cell of mentally ill, dying inmate held at Silverwater jail

Exclusive: Simon Cartwright’s family is taking legal action against NSW government after coroner finds his death was preventable

www.theguardian.com

“Simon’s death was preventable,” the coroner found. “This inquest highlights that [Corrective Services NSW] is not and should not be placed in a position to care for a mentally ill person.”

'The family is now taking legal action against the NSW government and has called for urgent reform.'

'Cartwright’s family have spent years fighting for answers. They were initially told nothing about the circumstances of his death and buried him without knowing why he had died.'

https://coroners.nsw.gov.au/documents/findings/2024/Inquest_into_the_death_of_Simon_Cartwright.pdf

Horrific, utterly horrific at every level. I guess the perpetrators will face robodebt levels of accountability. I expect the NSW government to settle out of court as it's indefensible.

Added - there is more than a little irony in NSW refusing UN prison inspections, especially when the ex premier says they have the best prison system in the world.

'Saying our white bread is sliced too thinly': Minister criticises UN as inspectors denied access to NSW jails

NSW Corrections Minister Geoff Lee says a UN delegation denied access to inspect jails in the state had come to "pick on" the government and were targeting "spurious issues".

www.abc.net.au

 

[stormbird]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I can't find anywhere else: the William Tyrrell thread has been locked for over a week now. Why was it closed? Will it ever be opened again? Thanks.

 

[Paul Kersey]

Gee Judge Deborah Sweeney thinks murdering a pregnant woman and putting her remains in an acid bath is ‘mid range’ and has given this animal a chance for parole after 16 years. The system is broken - hope this animal gets taken down in gaol.

Mother wails as daughter’s killer jailed over acid bath murder

Meraj Zafar could spend just 16 years behind bars for killing his pregnant wife Arnima Hayat, who dreamt of becoming a doctor and wanted to leave the marriage.

www.theage.com.au

 

[jason_recliner]

Gee Judge Deborah Sweeney thinks murdering a pregnant woman and putting her remains in an acid bath is ‘mid range’ and has given this animal a chance for parole after 16 years. The system is broken - hope this animal gets taken down in gaol.

Mother wails as daughter’s killer jailed over acid bath murder

Meraj Zafar could spend just 16 years behind bars for killing his pregnant wife Arnima Hayat, who dreamt of becoming a doctor and wanted to leave the marriage.

www.theage.com.au

What the hell? Call, email, complain. It works.

 

[zedx]

I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I can't find anywhere else: the William Tyrrell thread has been locked for over a week now. Why was it closed? Will it ever be opened again? Thanks.

Ask Kurve. But I for one am glad it was closed. It was really becoming horrid and vindictive towards the FP's, all based on possibilities and theories not fact. It was becoming like a witch hunt.

 

[jason_recliner]

Ask Kurve. But I for one am glad it was closed. It was really becoming horrid and vindictive towards the FP's, all based on possibilities and theories not fact. It was becoming like a witch hunt.

Yep. It was disgusting.

 

[PatsFitztrick]

Gee Judge Deborah Sweeney thinks murdering a pregnant woman and putting her remains in an acid bath is ‘mid range’ and has given this animal a chance for parole after 16 years. The system is broken - hope this animal gets taken down in gaol.

Mother wails as daughter’s killer jailed over acid bath murder

Meraj Zafar could spend just 16 years behind bars for killing his pregnant wife Arnima Hayat, who dreamt of becoming a doctor and wanted to leave the marriage.

www.theage.com.au

File this sentence under Crimes Against Humanity.

 

[FTY1]

Victims to meet with Queensland's attorney-general in push to ban character references for sex offenders​

Child sexual abuse survivors want to ban the use of good character references for convicted sex offenders in Queensland. In court, people who know the offender can write letters about their good character for the judge or magistrate to consider during sentencing. But, co-founders of the "Your Reference Ain't Relevant" campaign Harrison James and Jarad Grice believe it could re-traumatise child sex abuse victims.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12...aracter-for-convicted-sex-offenders/104727364

Onya, boys!

There has been a push by the Your Reference Ain't Relevant" Campaign first in NSW then in ACT so now it is Queensland.

Remove the Provision of Good Character References for Paedophiles in the Sentencing Procedure of Child Sexual Abuse Cases ACT Legislative Assembly

epetitions.parliament.act.gov.au

https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/lc/petitions/Pages/tabled-paper-details.aspx?pk=186308

 

[PatsFitztrick]

I have never been on a cruise ship, and never wanted to be anywhere near one.
Why, you ask?

 

[Paul Kersey]

I have never been on a cruise ship, and never wanted to be anywhere near one.
Why, you ask?

‘Uncharacteristic’. Sure.

 

[craffles]

‘Uncharacteristic’. Sure.

Hard to tell from the little facts we know but looking at that video it definitely seems like there’s more to it than alcohol.

 

[Kurve]

It's being viewed as a terrorist attack.

Two dead and dozens injured after driver rams into Christmas market in Germany

The state premier of Saxony-Anhalt says two people have been killed, and many more have been injured in the city of Magdeburg. The suspected driver of the car has reportedly been arrested.

www.sbs.com.au

Edit: More than two dead I think.

 

[zedx]

Tributes pour in for young woman shot dead in Queensland

‘This is really hard to come to terms with so close to Christmas. She has gifts wrapped under the tree she’ll never get to unwrap.’

www.perthnow.com.au

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Tributes pour in for young woman shot dead in Queensland

‘This is really hard to come to terms with so close to Christmas. She has gifts wrapped under the tree she’ll never get to unwrap.’

www.perthnow.com.au

All apparently known to each other.

 

[Wallace52]

All apparently known to each other.

Where does it say that in the article?

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Where does it say that in the article?

“Harbison said police did not believe the incident was a random attack, and investigations suggested those involved were known to each other.”

 

[Cmarsh]

Just in time so the Trump administration can make an absolute example of the guy.

'My children are very, very sad': Australian pilot Daniel Duggan to be extradited

The former fighter pilot was arrested in 2022 on orders from the United States who accused him of breaching arms trafficking laws by training Chinese pilots in South Africa over a decade ago.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Wallace52]

“Harbison said police did not believe the incident was a random attack, and investigations suggested those involved were known to each other.”

Ok, and that’s all well and good, but police have also said they don’t know who they are and they don’t have any suspects.

So I am just wondering, how they can be so sure that alleged offenders were known to the victim if they’ve no idea who they are?

 

[jason_recliner]

Ok, and that’s all well and good, but police have also said they don’t know who they are and they don’t have any suspects.

So I am just wondering, how they can be so sure that alleged offenders were known to the victim if they’ve no idea who they are?

They weren't chasing and gunning down in public a random stranger. The police know what this woman is about.

 

[Wallace52]

They weren't chasing and gunning down in public a random stranger. The police know what this woman is about.

I get that, but the idea that the cops have no suspects and yet there’s no cause for alarm in terms of public safety, just seems a little incongruous.

Also, she’s not the perfect victim but there’s no excuse for this kind of violence. Let’s say she had an unpaid debt…How do the cops know they won’t target her friends and/or family next?