George Bailey to be named Australian T20 Captain

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They recall Hogg but there's no room for Nannes, or Hodge... wow.

And White... gone.... for George Bailey. Staggering.
Of course White is gone. It's not like he has the 9th best international T20 batting average of those who have played 20 innings, or has hit the 3rd most sixes in international T20's, or top scored in Australia's last game and got our 2nd highest score in the two matches before that! :eek:

Oh, no... wait. Those things are true.

Ummmm, yeah, well, at least they brought in someone that has much more T20 experience, is younger, more in form, fields better and isn't injured.
Oh, no, wait, those things aren't the case either!

This makes perfect sense.
 
Couldn't have done much more though. The top 5 wicket takers in the Big Bash are Faulkner, Hogg, McKay, Starc and Edmondson. They picked three of them, and a veteran quick instead.
They are obviously going to rest Pattinson for a while longer, hopefully allow him to play the Victorian games on that week

Starc is another one who should be in consideration for future games

I just feel they lack a bit of pace when Lee is the only true quick bowler there and he is what, about 35?
 
Hodge? I wish people would stop flogging that dead horse. Hogg won his spot back through amazing performances and clearly being the best spin option we have
Calling for Hodge, who is younger than Hogg, is "flogging a dead horse"?
I take it you mean by that that anyone who has been calling for Hodge to get a game (in T20's or ODI's) in the past couple of years, has been "flogging a dead horse", because him scoring hundred after hundred (lots of them big ones, at faster than a run a ball) in domestic one dayer's, don't qualify as "amazing performances", compared to what Hogg has done in the Big Bash this season?
That is awfully rich. I think Hodge scored 8 centuries in 13 innings in one stretch in the one dayer's. If that doesn't qualify as "amazing" what the hell does?
I haven't seen the comparison stats, but I dare say Hodge was at least as good (compared to the others batting in domestic cricket at that time), relative to Hogg's results (compared to the others bowling spin) in the Big Bash.
Both have been relative "standouts" and Hogg has been picked in the lead up to the T20 World Cup later this year, just as Hodge could have easily been picked in the lead-up to the ODI World Cup last year, where he could have been miles better than White, especially, who was clearly out of form by then. He was also about 3 years younger than Hogg is now, at that point, so could have had plenty more good cricket in him. (I see he's top of the table for runs in the Ryobi Cup again this season, so his good form has continued and he also had the highest batting average of any of the "locals" in the Big Bash League, except for Shaun Marsh, who had just the one innings. He averaged more than all of Birt, Finch, Gayle, North, Quiney, etc).
 

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“The NSP unanimously favoured George Bailey as captain of the T20 team. George is a very good T20 player with a sound record. He is widely respected and regarded as an outstanding captain, having had sustained success in this role. The role of the captain is especially important in fast moving T20 cricket. Meticulous preparation then needs to be accompanied by cool split-second decision making throughout the 120 events when the team is in the field. A captain can have a most significant impact on a game even if he does not bowl or get to the crease," national selector John Inverarity said.

Highlight of the press conference, I must have missed all those T20 titles that Bailey has led his side to, wait, he has never got Tasmania even to a final of the T20 comp? :rolleyes:

Cameron White has obviously upset somebody behind the scenes
 
those vic supportes (and im usually a pretty biased vic supporter) complaining about White being dropped need to open their other eye. He hasnt made a run all summer and looks like a player who has no idea. Even the inning he made 20something was at less than a strike rate of 100.

He needs to go back and make some runs in any form of cricket and quick or his international career will be over (if not already)
 
Calling for Hodge, who is younger than Hogg, is "flogging a dead horse"?

That is awfully rich. I haven't seen the comparison stats, but I dare say Hodge was at least as good (compared to the others batting in domestic cricket at that time), relative to Hogg's results (compared to the others bowling spin) in the Big Bash.

It's nothing to do with age.

Are you seriously saying Hodge's performances with the bat have matched Hogg's with the ball in the tournament? Remember, it's in comparison with the players in other teams who perform the same role too.
 
maybe if cameron white didn't average 2.6 after 6 games and then **** up the semi by batting wade at 8 and faulkner at 3, those people "behind the scenes" wouldn't be upset
 
Bailey (c), Warner (vc), Birt, Christian, Doherty, Faulkner, Finch, Hogg, D.Hussey, Lee, M.Marsh, S.Marsh, Mckay, Wade

Warner
Marsh, S
Birt
Hussey
Bailey
Wade
Faulkner
Lee
Doherty
McKay
Hogg

That would be my side (assuming Bailey is a lock)
 
maybe if cameron white didn't average 2.6 after 6 games and then **** up the semi by batting wade at 8 and faulkner at 3, those people "behind the scenes" wouldn't be upset

Sending in Faulkner was a bit of a masterstroke.

The real mistake was batting himself, Bailey and Voges before Wade.
 
those vic supportes (and im usually a pretty biased vic supporter) complaining about White being dropped need to open their other eye. He hasnt made a run all summer and looks like a player who has no idea. Even the inning he made 20something was at less than a strike rate of 100.

He needs to go back and make some runs in any form of cricket and quick or his international career will be over (if not already)
But the whole issue is they have replaced him with Bailey who did absolutely nothing for the Stars either and has never succeeded as a captain in T20 cricket

What does he offer?

Plus White has had a poor domestic summer, but his international form was not worthy of being dropped

Sending in Faulkner was a bit of a masterstroke.

The real mistake was batting himself, Bailey and Voges before Wade.

Bailey and Voges cost them, if they batted at just over a run a ball then the Stars would have won but they made 13 off 21 balls between them

The sending in Faulkner was great, sometimes its worth throwing up a tail ended to slog, if he gets out cheaply you havent actually lost anything
 
Cameron White has obviously upset somebody behind the scenes

Seriously eddie give it a bloody rest.If you can't see why White was boned then you're a bigger dill than we thought.

Of all the batsman named Bailey seems the weakest link.So a good batsman is going to miss out because Bailey has to be played.Dunno why they just didn't name Warner captain for the 2 games.
 
^^^

I don't mind the droppin gof White - T20 is bitesize cricket - so players are going to be turned over fairly regularly based on hitting form at the right time. Whilst a few class players might exist like Marsh/Warner - I have the feeling the rest will be airly transient.

So based on an inability to hit the ball of the square, I have no problem with the selectors axing White based on current form, however that is completely contrary to the selection of Bailey - who isn't in the top 20 batsman in the BBL.
 

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Anyone that is objective and unbiased would totally agree with the dumping of White, he is in woeful form, has about 2 shots and has been found out.

Picking Bailey for his replacement is obviously just stupid though.
 
Seriously eddie give it a bloody rest.If you can't see why White was boned then you're a bigger dill than we thought.

Of all the batsman named Bailey seems the weakest link.So a good batsman is going to miss out because Bailey has to be played.Dunno why they just didn't name Warner captain for the 2 games.
If anyone can honestly show why White deserved to get dropped for Bailey then I will shut up, but no one will ever find a legitimate reason
 
Wow, an all time low for Cricket Australia and to think some idiots thought things would be better under the new regime

Things are already better

It is truly hard to see what Bailey has over White or even why White is being dropped? Yes he has had a bad summer domestically, but his international form is no issue, he finally snapped out of his form loss and they drop him? Insane

White would have been dropped in the selectors minds a while ago. Why does 1 match of success make up for many matches of failure?

Yet to drop him for the worst player they could pick in Bailey is hard to understand, there would have to be about 40 other batsmen deserving of a spot in the side and his form was no better than Whites, yet White has the runs on the board Internationally.

Whats even more amazing is he is the worst performing batsman in Australia under pressure, I doubt anyone has a worse record in domestic finals, he has never made a run in a Shield, One Day or T20 final

Lucky these matches aren't under pressure

Lets hope the MCG make the 2nd T20 what Hobart did for the Stars game.

Boo George Bailey Day

Yes it's his fault he has been selected into a role he does not deserve :rolleyes: ********

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Bailey should've been picked, but jesus christ, aren't you a little mad and over the top for a couple of 20/20s...and it's the Brad Haddin mindset again. Why should Haddin and Bailey get battered from pillar to post when it's the selectors decisions?
 
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Bailey should've been picked, but jesus christ, aren't you a little mad and over the top for a couple of 20/20s...and it's the Brad Haddin mindset again. Why should Haddin and Bailey get battered from pillar to post when it's the selectors decisions?
1 match of success? He has had 3 good innings in a row following 5 poor ones, so you dont drop a player in a bad patch but then do drop him after he had broken out of it? He has only had 7 failures in 29 innings for Australia, not bloody bad for the shortest form

Oh and International cricket isnt played under pressure? Bloody hell, thats a new one
 
Eadiesmith - Cameron White is not a good cricketer. You are a Victorian who is biased towards Victorians. Cool your jets, and face the facts.

At least he hasn't been replaced by a New South Welshman. :D
 
It's nothing to do with age.

Are you seriously saying Hodge's performances with the bat have matched Hogg's with the ball in the tournament? Remember, it's in comparison with the players in other teams who perform the same role too.
If you read and comprehended what I wrote properly (which I've added a bit more to, now), you would realise that I was referring to your suggestion that anyone who mentioned Hodge, was "beating a dead horse", which, as I said, implies that this is something that has been going on for some time.
So by saying that, you opened that door to recent calls for him to be brought back into the Australian team (over the past couple of years, which is where it appears you think the "beating" started), which is when I brought up his incredible run of form in the domestic one day matches in the past 3 seasons (which brought a lot of calls for him to be re-instated in the national team), which included at one stage, 8 centuries in something like 13 innings, which, as I said, when compared to Hogg's Big Bash returns, is equally "amazing", if not more so, yet he didn't get a call-up.
I wasn't suggesting that his batting in this tournament was as good as Hogg's bowling (relative to everyone else who does the same thing), but was challenging your "beating a dead horse" suggestion, as though Hodge's recent performances weren't "amazing" enough to have been worthy of earning him another call-up in any of the national teams during the past couple of years.
As for this tournament (and I have never called for Hodge to get a game in these up and coming T20's, as I would prefer someone like Birt, Finch, or Quiney), you do realise that Hodge still has the 2nd best average of any of the "locals" for the tournament, though, don't you? Yet again he has done the business, with only Shaun Marsh (who only played two games) having a higher average (other than Shah and Gibbs), for the tournament.
So those that are calling for him to possibly be named are hardly going out on a big limb, especially with a World Cup on in a few months, that we will be going all-out to win (hence the call, by me and others, for Hogg to be brought back in).
 
Im a big Bailey fan so im happy but even i find it a strange selection cause 20 20 cricket dosent really suit his game, Out of all 3 forms of cricket 20 20 is his worst format. Also i dont really know where he will bat cause the way he plays he probarly needs to bat at 3 or 4, cause having him coming in down the order when u need to hit from the start isnt his game.
 
if anyone can honestly show why white deserved to get dropped for bailey then i will shut up, but no one will ever find a legitimate reason

1,2,3,1,1,5*,28,14
 
1 match of success? He has had 3 good innings in a row following 5 poor ones, so you dont drop a player in a bad patch but then do drop him after he had broken out of it? He has only had 7 failures in 29 innings for Australia, not bloody bad for the shortest form

Ok, admit that, but how long ago were his performances for Australia??

Oh and International cricket isnt played under pressure? Bloody hell, thats a new one

It's a 20/20, and it's 2 matches, so hardly counts as a series...how is it meaningful??
And at this stage, that's all he is captain for (I assume??). Who knows what will happen, CA may have a rotation plan of some sort. You don't **** with your test captains, but 20/20, who gives a shit.
 
If you read and comprehended what I wrote properly (which I've added a bit more to, now), you would realise that I was referring to your suggestion that anyone who mentioned Hodge, was "beating a dead horse", which, as I said, implies that this is something that has been going on for some time.
So by saying that, you opened that door to recent calls for him to be brought back into the Australian team (over the past couple of years, which is where it appears you think the "beating" started), which is when I brought up his incredible run of form in the domestic one day matches in the past 3 seasons (which brought a lot of calls for him to be re-instated in the national team), which included at one stage, 8 centuries in something like 13 innings, which, as I said, when compared to Hogg's Big Bash returns, is equally "amazing", if not more so, yet he didn't get a call-up.
I wasn't suggesting that his batting in this tournament was as good as Hogg's bowling (relative to everyone else who does the same thing), but was challenging your "beating a dead horse" suggestion, as though Hodge's recent performances weren't "amazing" enough to have been worthy of earning him another call-up in any of the national teams during the past couple of years.
As for this tournament (and I have never called for Hodge to get a game in these up and coming T20's, as I would prefer someone like Birt, Finch, or Quiney), you do realise that Hodge still has the 2nd best average of any of the "locals" for the tournament, though, don't you? Yet again he has done the business, with only Shaun Marsh (who only played two games) having a higher average (other than Shah and Gibbs), for the tournament.
So those that are calling for him to possibly be named are hardly going out on a big limb, especially with a World Cup on in a few months, that we will be going all-out to win (hence the call, by me and others, for Hogg to be brought back in).

Stop writing paragraphs! I'd be more likely to read it all then. :p

Hodge made 190 runs in 5 games, lets stop making out he's been Bradman or something. Just a reasonable return for someone of his experience and skill.

I honestly wouldn't pick him over any of these who should make up the top 6 between then...

David Warner
Shane Watson* (when fit)
Shaun Marsh
David Hussey
Travis Birt
Mitchell Marsh
Rob Quiney
Dan Christian
Aaron Finch
Matthew Wade

And probably a few more too.
 

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