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At qrter time I thought the umps had made a bet on the side. 3 goals they handed to Geelong for dubious frees. Then the a Hawks forward nudged a Cat backman in the side and got pinged for hands in the back WTF.
The Mitchell bump on Abletts shoulder wasn't a free and awarding the kick down field was just a shocker. If a 50m penality was awarded why didn't Ling or Ablett take the kick?
There was one soft free to the Hawks that resulted in a goallate in the match but the Cats had the best of the umpires yesterday.
Thank god the Hawks won comfortably and didn't loose by a couple of points.
At qrter time I thought the umps had made a bet on the side. 3 goals they handed to Geelong for dubious frees. Then the a Hawks forward nudged a Cat backman in the side and got pinged for hands in the back WTF.
The Mitchell bump on Abletts shoulder wasn't a free and awarding the kick down field was just a shocker. If a 50m penality was awarded why didn't Ling or Ablett take the kick?
There was one soft free to the Hawks that resulted in a goallate in the match but the Cats had the best of the umpires yesterday.
Thank god the Hawks won comfortably and didn't loose by a couple of points.
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You hawks supporters on this thread should be ashamed of yourselves! You've just won the flag and you're on here bitching about the umpires. Get off the computer you flogs and get on with celebrating the premiership. No-one remembers the umpires decisions!
You hawks supporters on this thread should be ashamed of yourselves! You've just won the flag and you're on here bitching about the umpires. Get off the computer you flogs and get on with celebrating the premiership. No-one remembers the umpires decisions!
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piss off johnboy. its not just the hawks supporters but the neutrals as well. it was obvious to see that the umpiring was off and if it had cost us the game, we would have all been furious
piss off johnboy. its not just the hawks supporters but the neutrals as well. it was obvious to see that the umpiring was off and if it had cost us the game, we would have all been furious
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McClaren deserved the Norm Smith. Best on Ground for Geelong.
McClaren deserved the Norm Smith. Best on Ground for Geelong.
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Mclaren and vozzo got to umpire together in an important game go figure 3/4s of the decisions were rubbish.
Glad the hawks got over the line even after the men in charged tried to **** them
Mclaren and vozzo got to umpire together in an important game go figure 3/4s of the decisions were rubbish.
Glad the hawks got over the line even after the men in charged tried to **** them
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thought the umpiring was brilliant yesterday. Didnt notice them and they did not get sucked in by theatrics.
thought the umpiring was brilliant yesterday. Didnt notice them and they did not get sucked in by theatrics.
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Buddy deserved a free early on when Scarlo had his arm in his hands while buddy was trying to go for the ball. Apart from that it seemed fair enough. Could have been a bit more HTB though.
Buddy deserved a free early on when Scarlo had his arm in his hands while buddy was trying to go for the ball. Apart from that it seemed fair enough. Could have been a bit more HTB though.
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what I FIND AMAZING .....no resposes from cat supporters......do i assume they agree with most of what has been written???
what I FIND AMAZING .....no resposes from cat supporters......do i assume they agree with most of what has been written???
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SO ,on your way of think,n......you only voice your thoughts when you lose,thus using it as an excuse.......Mmmm
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I thought the umpiring wasn't too bad overall. There were a few more frees to the Cats, but the Hawks were definately playing the man harder than the cats (there should be no argument about that), so that's kinda what happens. 21-29 isn't a massive divide anyway...
And as for goals from free kicks, the hawks got their fair share too, namely:
Hunt's very dubious "hands in the back" was a goal
Tom Harley's 50 metre penalty (extremely soft) was a direct goal to Osbourne.
They were also at crucial points in the game. So you got some help too.
And the double 50 to Bateman, you can't complain about that because Bateman had direct control over whether he was going to shut his yap.
In the end, it's done and dusted, I've seen FAR worse officiated games in my time, so just enjoy your win and stop bitching about the umps FFS.
I thought the umpiring wasn't too bad overall. There were a few more frees to the Cats, but the Hawks were definately playing the man harder than the cats (there should be no argument about that), so that's kinda what happens. 21-29 isn't a massive divide anyway...
And as for goals from free kicks, the hawks got their fair share too, namely:
Hunt's very dubious "hands in the back" was a goal
Tom Harley's 50 metre penalty (extremely soft) was a direct goal to Osbourne.
They were also at crucial points in the game. So you got some help too.
And the double 50 to Bateman, you can't complain about that because Bateman had direct control over whether he was going to shut his yap.
In the end, it's done and dusted, I've seen FAR worse officiated games in my time, so just enjoy your win and stop bitching about the umps FFS.
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As i said on one of the threads on your board, i'd much rather see even umpiring than biased towards us, it undermines the boy's performances even when it wouldn't have made a difference.
McLaren and Vozzo should never umpire again
Most of it... we definately got the better of the umpiring but hawthorn still got a few line-ball calls, wasn't completely biased.what I FIND AMAZING .....no resposes from cat supporters......do i assume they agree with most of what has been written???
As i said on one of the threads on your board, i'd much rather see even umpiring than biased towards us, it undermines the boy's performances even when it wouldn't have made a difference.
McLaren and Vozzo should never umpire again
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But surely we'll be right because there are so many experts on this forum that they can walk into the gig anytine. Surely all these people slagging off the umps are speaking from experience - not only do they have the courage to umpire but they have the skill and ability as well.
There's a word for people who get stuck into others for doing a job that they lack the balls to do themselves - i think it starts with an f or a c or something.
Great game - mistakes from umpires, mistakes from players, mistakes from commentators, mistakes from spectators - such is the nature of life
But surely we'll be right because there are so many experts on this forum that they can walk into the gig anytine. Surely all these people slagging off the umps are speaking from experience - not only do they have the courage to umpire but they have the skill and ability as well.
There's a word for people who get stuck into others for doing a job that they lack the balls to do themselves - i think it starts with an f or a c or something.
Great game - mistakes from umpires, mistakes from players, mistakes from commentators, mistakes from spectators - such is the nature of life
Hawkasarelegends!!
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What about that disgraceful decision when sammy mitchell spoiled paul chapman's attpemted mark and then chapman was awarded a free kick for push in the back or something like that! I mean thats just wrong! But still hawks won GO THE HAWKS!
What about that disgraceful decision when sammy mitchell spoiled paul chapman's attpemted mark and then chapman was awarded a free kick for push in the back or something like that! I mean thats just wrong! But still hawks won
GO THE HAWKS!
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Geelong have got cheap frees all year they didnt deserve, Hawks always get the worst.
pitting the worst with the umps, against the best with the umps, on the biggest stage of the year, exposed it for what it was.
Geelong have got cheap frees all year they didnt deserve, Hawks always get the worst.
pitting the worst with the umps, against the best with the umps, on the biggest stage of the year, exposed it for what it was.
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I think you're mistaken that people don't umpire (if that is what you're implying) because they lack the balls - courage has got nothing to do with the decision to umpire or not umpire.
People are allowed to whinge about the umpiring because we are PAYING FOR THEIR SERVICE through subscriptions (at grass-roots level), memberships, tickets and merchandise, which goes through the AFL and into the salary of the men in white.
There's no chance the AFL will have trouble attracting quality umpires at any stage in its future as long as the game is healthy. That's what it all come down to - the economy of the code. If there is cash then it will attract the employees.
I think you're mistaken that people don't umpire (if that is what you're implying) because they lack the balls - courage has got nothing to do with the decision to umpire or not umpire.
People are allowed to whinge about the umpiring because we are PAYING FOR THEIR SERVICE through subscriptions (at grass-roots level), memberships, tickets and merchandise, which goes through the AFL and into the salary of the men in white.
There's no chance the AFL will have trouble attracting quality umpires at any stage in its future as long as the game is healthy. That's what it all come down to - the economy of the code. If there is cash then it will attract the employees.
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I'll admit I was a bit biased at the game, and watching the replay, a lot of the stuff I was going off my nut about was called correctly. Mitchell on Chapman for instance, that was a free kick every day. At the game I thought he spoiled the ball, not the bald dome.
It was good to hear "No, that was staging" from them on occasion. Respect.
That said, there were too many decisions that were nothing short of disgraceful. How the umpires in a grand final can get the rules wrong astounds me. How the All Australian umpire doesn't get the grand final gig also astounds me.
It did affect the result, but thankfully we won anyway. No help from the umpires all year but, as they say, WE STUCK IT UP 'EM!!!!!
THE MIGHTY FIGHTING HAWKS!!!!!!
I'll admit I was a bit biased at the game, and watching the replay, a lot of the stuff I was going off my nut about was called correctly. Mitchell on Chapman for instance, that was a free kick every day. At the game I thought he spoiled the ball, not the bald dome.
It was good to hear "No, that was staging" from them on occasion. Respect.
That said, there were too many decisions that were nothing short of disgraceful. How the umpires in a grand final can get the rules wrong astounds me. How the All Australian umpire doesn't get the grand final gig also astounds me.
It did affect the result, but thankfully we won anyway. No help from the umpires all year but, as they say, WE STUCK IT UP 'EM!!!!!
THE MIGHTY FIGHTING HAWKS!!!!!!
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In this day and age is it too much to expect professionalism in the umpiring ranks. What had the chance of marring our great games showcase game was the decrepit and poor performance of those charged with administering the rules. As Tim Watson once so eloquently said "a fish rots from the head first", Its about time the umpires were coached/managed by someone who has been a success in their own right.
In this day and age is it too much to expect professionalism in the umpiring ranks. What had the chance of marring our great games showcase game was the decrepit and poor performance of those charged with administering the rules. As Tim Watson once so eloquently said "a fish rots from the head first", Its about time the umpires were coached/managed by someone who has been a success in their own right.
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Really? You thought the frees against Roughy and Buddy were there? Please explain??
As I have said on numerous occasions..the worst thing the AFL have done over the last year or two is to have the umpires miked up. They really feel important now. Love the sound of their own voices. I was pissed off at the game and after watching again several times over the weekend, my view hasn't changed. Geelong are a protected species. Ablett is untouchable. The rules are different for him. As good a footballer as he is, he seems to have a long term lease on the football when he has possession. He gets caught with the ball, disposes of it any way he sees fit and the umpire waves his hands in the air , play on!!! Get fairdinkum!!
thought the umpiring was brilliant yesterday. Didnt notice them and they did not get sucked in by theatrics.
Really? You thought the frees against Roughy and Buddy were there? Please explain??
As I have said on numerous occasions..the worst thing the AFL have done over the last year or two is to have the umpires miked up. They really feel important now. Love the sound of their own voices. I was pissed off at the game and after watching again several times over the weekend, my view hasn't changed. Geelong are a protected species. Ablett is untouchable. The rules are different for him. As good a footballer as he is, he seems to have a long term lease on the football when he has possession. He gets caught with the ball, disposes of it any way he sees fit and the umpire waves his hands in the air , play on!!! Get fairdinkum!!
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Its been called before.
It's bullshit because for mine if you are advancing the ball towards your goals then the deliberate rule should not apply.
Kicking a ball 30 metres forward of your position should never warrant a free against.
Its been called before.
It's bullshit because for mine if you are advancing the ball towards your goals then the deliberate rule should not apply.
Kicking a ball 30 metres forward of your position should never warrant a free against.
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how did the 2 worst umpires in the league, and clearly the most biased, in mclaren and vozzo, get a gig in the GF? Mclaren should have won the norm smith he was that good for geelong, and vozzo has punished hawthorn ever since 2001 prelim. Well and truly filled the void left by Goldspank! Disgraceful umpires, both of them
how did the 2 worst umpires in the league, and clearly the most biased, in mclaren and vozzo, get a gig in the GF? Mclaren should have won the norm smith he was that good for geelong, and vozzo has punished hawthorn ever since 2001 prelim. Well and truly filled the void left by Goldspank! Disgraceful umpires, both of them
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I thought Shaun Ryan was really good, Vozzo was OK and McLaren was his usual self - terrible.
I thought Shaun Ryan was really good, Vozzo was OK and McLaren was his usual self - terrible.
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Let me just say that I think Geelong probably had a good run from the umps in the GF. However I was watching the highlights again last night and I have 3 questions:
*Cyril Rioli's free kick he got on the wing when outnumbered 3 to 1 etc.. in the 3rd Qtr. Awesome effort but what was that for? To me it looked like either Rooke got a handball away or if he didnt then the ball was knocked free and shouldnt have been holding the ball?
*The Stewy Dew effort & handball to Mark Williams to dribble a goal through etc.. When Dew ploughed in and grabbed the ball as a 2nd effort, he grabbed the ball and banged straight into a Geel player who grabbed hold of him, he then went to move away from goal and banged into another Geel player whilst still being held by the first player and so then moved back toward goal by rolling over and throwing out a handball that fell to Williams to pick up and dribble a goal. My question-how the hell was that not holding the ball? He's moved in 3 different directions before finally releasing the ball whilst being held by the very first Geel player.
*And lastly, the Franklin handball to Dew who screwed a goal back on the left from 45 degrees. Great goal but how was that not holding the man against Franklin on Scarlett. Scarlett was in front about to pick up the ball, but he never did, before Franklin tackled him and pulled him away whilst Scarlett never actually touched the ball.
Now I know the downfield goal to SJ soon after for the tackle on Ablett etc.. was wrong, and I know we got a good rub with the umps at the same time, but please please explain those 3 to me which all proved to be the game breaking goals!!!!
Let me just say that I think Geelong probably had a good run from the umps in the GF. However I was watching the highlights again last night and I have 3 questions:
*Cyril Rioli's free kick he got on the wing when outnumbered 3 to 1 etc.. in the 3rd Qtr. Awesome effort but what was that for? To me it looked like either Rooke got a handball away or if he didnt then the ball was knocked free and shouldnt have been holding the ball?
*The Stewy Dew effort & handball to Mark Williams to dribble a goal through etc.. When Dew ploughed in and grabbed the ball as a 2nd effort, he grabbed the ball and banged straight into a Geel player who grabbed hold of him, he then went to move away from goal and banged into another Geel player whilst still being held by the first player and so then moved back toward goal by rolling over and throwing out a handball that fell to Williams to pick up and dribble a goal. My question-how the hell was that not holding the ball? He's moved in 3 different directions before finally releasing the ball whilst being held by the very first Geel player.
*And lastly, the Franklin handball to Dew who screwed a goal back on the left from 45 degrees. Great goal but how was that not holding the man against Franklin on Scarlett. Scarlett was in front about to pick up the ball, but he never did, before Franklin tackled him and pulled him away whilst Scarlett never actually touched the ball.
Now I know the downfield goal to SJ soon after for the tackle on Ablett etc.. was wrong, and I know we got a good rub with the umps at the same time, but please please explain those 3 to me which all proved to be the game breaking goals!!!!
