Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[Freshwater]

Well, he'd be coming to a club with more footy history than anyone, wouldn't he?

I get you guys are p*ssed, but why is he out of contract? Why does he want to leave your club?

Yes, he's a good player, but he has had issues and how they'll resolve is unknown. What form he'll get back to is also unknown.

Walking him to the draft will reflect poorly on your club, and wouldn't be good for your long term appeal to players.

Might be wise to look at the club's performance, coaching and player management rather than cast aspersions on others.

We well and truly punch above our weight.

 

[Cataholic]

We well and truly punch above our weight.

Never said otherwise.

I actually don't mind your club, but also believe there's improvement to be made if they're willing to do the overhaul.

That'd be far more productive than trying to lay blame elsewhere.

Geelong was a mess from top to bottom at one point in time, and eventually found the courage to overhaul virtually every aspect of the club which has since won us 4 premierships and kept us at the pointy end for the last 17 years.

No reason the Dogs can't do that.

But it starts from within. Not by gazing out the window.

 

[Turbocat]

It's just negotiations.

Doggies need to push for the best trade they can get.

We'd do the same.

Eventually a trade will be made but they aren't going to roll over before pushing us for as much as they possibly can.

Have done the same ..with Kelly. Fair enough everyone has to play hard ... and its probably more important for them not to look like push overs..

Im not worried about all the outside noise. Other supporters and media can say what they like. We should just embrace being the bad guys if thats the way they wish to paint it. Id rather be the hated black hat bad guys and being a known threat ..than being a club that is liked and laughed at and sings Friday On My Mind..

Id expect most of the noise to dampen once we approach trade deadline. If you trade someone when you haven’t got hand ..in the end most just move on…. if they do not trade him …then you make a choice that might affect your next decade. Look at the Ball choice … If StK had just traded him for the unders… do they pick Gawn with the pick and have him for the next decade… maybe that had apick that could have picked him. Unders is better than nothing. Almost certainly there will be a gun player at or after our P17 pick (or P21 or or what ever it ends up as) …its up to the Dogs to call the right name.

 

[Turbocat]

Bailey has anxiety + is very open about it. He said in an interview he’s “always been an "over-thinker" + "perfectionist".”

"… it stems from growing up through school, and footy and stuff. I haven't been too open about it but I probably need to address it a bit more if it comes up in conversation. I think it's healthy to talk about it, and know that everyone doesn't always cope as well as they would like, and it's OK to put your hand up and say you're struggling."

"Smith referred to two Baileys - the AFL footballer and the one known to those outside football.

The non-footballer, he said, was: "A sensitive, caring person, (who) loves talking to people, getting to know people, I love my dogs and love being relaxed. Football is only the tiniest bit of me, it used to be all of me, but I'm trying to steer clear of that because it is not a healthy way to be.

"That helps a lot in terms of not riding every bump which happens in football, because if you do that, it is such an emotionally tolling experience. And I did that last year, the year before, and it takes a big toll on you. The less you can see football as you, and solely you, I feel the easier it is to cope with the pressures, the talk."

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=bailey smith anxiety&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5

Why I understand that one just cant say …”Just snap out of it” etc. …. it sounds like being around an atmosphere such as our ..and perhaps players like Cameron might be good for him. I guess only time will tell.

 

[Turbocat]

Every single Dogs fan I know would rather see him go to the draft than get unders for him. We may lose this time but not long term. We don’t want to be pushed around by wealthy clubs anymore. He hasn’t even got to free agency and we feel we are being screwed by the AFL and the wealthy clubs who are also throughout the media. He is a young gun with 10 years left in the game. But he is an extremely immature narcissist easily lead by money and fame, not necessarily football history.

Then... every single dogs fan you know is deluded. Unders is a flawed mindset that is focused on a number rather than what you can get with it..

If you refuse P17 ..and see a player that you might have picked become a gun for the next decade ..it will haunt the Dogs.

You should forget the number and look at the quality of the draft… a draft pick number like 17 veries greatly from year to year … and the guys available at 17 this year might be top10 other years….

In the end it will not be what we pay you..it will be what you do with it.

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Every single Dogs fan I know would rather see him go to the draft than get unders for him. We may lose this time but not long term. We don’t want to be pushed around by wealthy clubs anymore. He hasn’t even got to free agency and we feel we are being screwed by the AFL and the wealthy clubs who are also throughout the media. He is a young gun with 10 years left in the game. But he is an extremely immature narcissist easily lead by money and fame, not necessarily football history.

Would you like extra salt with that?


You’re acting purely from pique, in a way that would damage Bulldogs, more than the object of your anger, Geelong.

Branding Bailey a narcissist is contemptible!

Seems your anger manifests because Geelong keeps contending?

Cataholic explained our struggle from minnow to a competent, successful, destination club.

Many on this board watched the drought years, 44 years between premierships. Financial problems, to which we donated. After the complete overhaul we hoped, we supported our team.

So stop venting your anger here!

 

[Mattlock]

Every single Dogs fan I know would rather see him go to the draft than get unders for him. We may lose this time but not long term. We don’t want to be pushed around by wealthy clubs anymore. He hasn’t even got to free agency and we feel we are being screwed by the AFL and the wealthy clubs who are also throughout the media. He is a young gun with 10 years left in the game. But he is an extremely immature narcissist easily lead by money and fame, not necessarily football history.

Lol

 

[Strange Cat]

We well and truly punch above our weight.

That’s why Mackie gets the big money he takes the emotions out of trading and does what best for the players and the club

Something that your club fail to do time and time again with the victim mentality and inability to lift the club out of minnow culture that it exist in

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Well, the President of the USA used it to dictate out government policy, so...

There's a chance he may do so again

 

[D BRIDGE]

Every single Dogs fan I know would rather see him go to the draft than get unders for him. We may lose this time but not long term. We don’t want to be pushed around by wealthy clubs anymore. He hasn’t even got to free agency and we feel we are being screwed by the AFL and the wealthy clubs who are also throughout the media. He is a young gun with 10 years left in the game. But he is an extremely immature narcissist easily lead by money and fame, not necessarily football history.

It's like wanting to sell your house for 900k but the best offer you get is 800k.

So instead of taking the 800k, you give it away for ZERO... because 800k isn't enough to sell it for... so you'll happily take zero instead lol.

Then it goes to auction and the guy trying to get it off you for 800k buys it for 800k at auction.

You guys say you want to send him to the draft... but trust me, you don't.

ATM you are all just pissed and want blood, I get it... but there's no blood to be shed here.

Come draft night when pick #17 is live and there are some really rated kids still on the board that you could get to your club ... you'll all wish it was your selection and not Geelong's selecting Smith.

Not making a trade isn't a flex.

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Why I understand that one just cant say …”Just snap out of it” etc. …. it sounds like being around an atmosphere such as our ..and perhaps players like Cameron might be good for him. I guess only time will tell.

Absolutely TC.

Additionally, to be frank, admitting you’re struggling + to ask for help takes enormous courage.

The standouts for me are team cohesion, exuberant camaraderie for when goals are scored + videos like Cameron’s seeing players competing for fun.

Most players when interviewed about their performance mention players + coaches who helped them.

Bailey’s phenomenal training discipline will contribute to our players + vice versa.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

Every single Dogs fan I know would rather see him go to the draft than get unders for him. We may lose this time but not long term. We don’t want to be pushed around by wealthy clubs anymore. He hasn’t even got to free agency and we feel we are being screwed by the AFL and the wealthy clubs who are also throughout the media. He is a young gun with 10 years left in the game. But he is an extremely immature narcissist easily lead by money and fame, not necessarily football history.

That is a loser mentality, that’s why your club is irrelevant. Thinking that the world is out to get you because of one thing happening instead of seeing the bigger picture.
Of course I would always want Geelong to get the best for the club in any trades. Never would I think I want the club to lose out on trade capital to send a message.
Who’s the message being sent to?
The clubs should be doing what’s best for them to get success and that isn’t letting a star player go for nothing.

How do you think the ‘big clubs’ and the afl are pushing the dogs around? You’ve been able to get two star players with father/son or academy picks including Jamara who shouldn’t have been in your academy. Had access to top draft picks to draft good players, you’ve lost some players and been compensated well.

It’s nobody else’s fault you have a terrible coach who plays players out of position leading to them not wanting to be at the club anymore.

 

[Turbocat]

Never said otherwise.

I actually don't mind your club, but also believe there's improvement to be made if they're willing to do the overhaul.

That'd be far more productive than trying to lay blame elsewhere.

Geelong was a mess from top to bottom at one point in time, and eventually found the courage to overhaul virtually every aspect of the club which has since won us 4 premierships and kept us at the pointy end for the last 17 years.

No reason the Dogs can't do that.

But it starts from within. Not by gazing out the window.

Maybe. … Probably bad time for it but maybe they should put all their efforts into getting a KP type level stadium in Ballarat … they need to find something that separates them..

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

I just saw the Bulldogs want a Top 10 pick for Bailey Smith

3

Bailey Smith

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

...

I can't stop laughing.

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

We well and truly punch above our weight.

In what way? 2 flags in 150 years, down the bottom for club membership, bottom bracket for game attendance.
In what ways do the club ‘punch above their weight?’

 

[The rabbi]

Thr obvious one i would be expecting b22 is jhye clark.

Love what he gives us. Those hard in and under bulls can take a little longer to come on.

He will be a good player.

COS i would like to see 10-12 games from at the level or even a full season.

Having SDK and COS is a nice rock solid backline aerially.

Knevitt i think will end up delisted end of 25, has hardly come on at all

I would not be surprised if Knevitt plays a good number of AFL games in defense.

 

[Turbocat]

Just one example of who might be available at our pick … If the dogs are too tall and want to add a small goal kicker then … here he is...

 

[Gee Class Loco]

I just saw the Bulldogs want a Top 10 pick for Bailey Smith...

I can't stop laughing.

LOL... Yeah I stopped at noon... Lunch was being served.
Priorities... lol

 

[Cataholic]

Maybe. … Probably bad time for it but maybe they should put all their efforts into getting a KP type level stadium in Ballarat … that need to find something that separates them..

Thing is, we agree they need to do SOMETHING.

The what, how, and how far might be debatable, but nothing will change for them if they don't get out of the rut, rebuild and rebrand themselves.

 

[Tristan34]

Every single Dogs fan I know would rather see him go to the draft than get unders for him. We may lose this time but not long term. We don’t want to be pushed around by wealthy clubs anymore. He hasn’t even got to free agency and we feel we are being screwed by the AFL and the wealthy clubs who are also throughout the media. He is a young gun with 10 years left in the game. But he is an extremely immature narcissist easily lead by money and fame, not necessarily football history.

I hate to break it to you the dogs have no picks in this draft. They have absolutely zero leverage.

 

[dont stop me meow]

Every single Dogs fan I know would rather see him go to the draft than get unders for him. We may lose this time but not long term. We don’t want to be pushed around by wealthy clubs anymore. He hasn’t even got to free agency and we feel we are being screwed by the AFL and the wealthy clubs who are also throughout the media. He is a young gun with 10 years left in the game. But he is an extremely immature narcissist easily lead by money and fame, not necessarily football history.

What sort of draft pick would it take for you to just f@#k off?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Branding Bailey a narcissist is contemptible!

Is it? He seems a narcissist to me. But will soon be our narcissist.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

My heavens the behaviour in here is so childish.
Apologies Freshwater

Offering up the same viewpoint many had here 12 months ago on Ratugolea.
Hopefully both list management teams can come to an agreement that is palatable to both parties.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Is it? He seems a narcissist to me. But will soon be our narcissist.

Reckon he's reading BF lately and having a good laugh

 

[CatToTheFuture]

My heavens the behaviour in here is so childish.
Apologies Freshwater

Offering up the same viewpoint many had here 12 months ago on Ratugolea.
Hopefully both list management teams can come to an agreement that is palatable to both parties.

I think the behaviour is almost identical to my reaction to Jordan Clark trade saga so it's hard to hold a grudge