Goulburn Valley FL 2020

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ringo1 said:
Interesting to see what happens. No disrespect but people inside the club need to keep these things quiet until all signed and delivered IMO. Loose lips sink ships.
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They actually need a couple of big signings now in my opinion. Fair bit of quality has now left including their best two young on ballers. Allan is a big loss, he was there enforcer physically and if faulks doesn’t play that will put a lot of pressure on valentine. Interesting times. Any other movements around the league, are euroas recruits all still playing this year?
 
jon dough said:
They actually need a couple of big signings now in my opinion. Fair bit of quality has now left including their best two young on ballers. Allan is a big loss, he was there enforcer physically and if faulks doesn’t play that will put a lot of pressure on valentine. Interesting times. Any other movements around the league, are euroas recruits all still playing this year?
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Euroa have locked them all in and expecting a few more from what I’m hearing. Need a dominant ruck to compete with the top sides.
 
Your finger is on the pulse Ringo.
In regards to points for 2021.
All listed players of metro clubs in 2020 drop 1 point for 2021.
Vic country leagues are not following suit?
Surely this cannot be true?
Double standards?
Surely the people in charge of the GV would look after their clubs?
 
Cec Bull said:
Your finger is on the pulse Ringo.
In regards to points for 2021.
All listed players of metro clubs in 2020 drop 1 point for 2021.
Vic country leagues are not following suit?
Surely this cannot be true?
Double standards?
Surely the people in charge of the GV would look after their clubs?
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Mate that is a concern if true. If anything country clubs need more points that their city cousins, otherwise getting players can become more problematic.
 
ringo1 said:
Mate that is a concern if true. If anything country clubs need more points that their city cousins, otherwise getting players can become more problematic.
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Rules came in that if you were a player at your chosen club in 2019 and return in 2021 you will lose the two points, so if you were a 4 in 2019, in 2021 you will be a 2. But if you transferred to the club for the 2020 season your points will remain the same in 2021 as you have not played a game for the club.
 
Cec Bull said:
Your finger is on the pulse Ringo.
In regards to points for 2021.
All listed players of metro clubs in 2020 drop 1 point for 2021.
Vic country leagues are not following suit?
Surely this cannot be true?
Double standards?
Surely the people in charge of the GV would look after their clubs?
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I agree it’s Ridiculous. Why don’t AFL Vic show some balls and enforce a common rule for footy in this state. They put the points system document in place across the state so why don’t they step in now. It’s a joke there is discrepancies between metro & country with regards to this ruling re points for 2021.
I agree with different leagues having different total points as that’s up to the leagues and in favour of giving struggling clubs extra points to try and even out the competitions.
Also with AFL club lists reducing and VFL changing there will be a flow of players heading back to local footy. However some of these players carry high points. This need to be addressed IMO as it’s not the players fault the landscape has changed.
Example: A young kid has played a few VFL games maybe for a struggling VFL club yet now they are classified with high points. Don’t understand that!!

I think 1 marquee player should be outside the cap and points. Just a thought.
 
Ultrajet dogwar2 said:
Rules came in that if you were a player at your chosen club in 2019 and return in 2021 you will lose the two points, so if you were a 4 in 2019, in 2021 you will be a 2. But if you transferred to the club for the 2020 season your points will remain the same in 2021 as you have not played a game for the club.
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Got a good source for info Ultrajet dogwar2 .
 
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Silver Tongue said:
What's your take on this Roar?
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I think you can look at it two ways .

1. It’s great because the affect of the points system will delayed . it is basically giving clubs an extra 5-6 points .

2. It’s stupid why have a system which isn’t being followed , it resets the system back to when it was first introduced and allows for additional recruiting despite no season .

Guess it depends on whether you do or don’t support the points System .
 
"The Roar Is Back" said:
I think you can look at it two ways .

1. It’s great because the affect of the points system will delayed . it is basically giving clubs an extra 5-6 points .

2. It’s stupid why have a system which isn’t being followed , it resets the system back to when it was first introduced and allows for additional recruiting despite no season .

Guess it depends on whether you do or don’t support the points System .
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I was a bit disappointed that players that had committed to the club for 2020 and are returning for 2021 don’t lose a point, but there would be a lot of grey area there on what classed as committed for 2020.
Cleared and contract signed, announced on socials pre covid made sense, but it is what it is.
 
Ultrajet dogwar2 said:
I was a bit disappointed that players that had committed to the club for 2020 and are returning for 2021 don’t lose a point, but there would be a lot of grey area there on what classed as committed for 2020.
Cleared and contract signed, announced on socials pre covid made sense, but it is what it is.
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Obviously picked up a few last year ultra and was wanting to top up again ?
Personally think the system has a lot of flaws but don’t understand why there was any need for any extra points to be taken off , 2020 didn’t happen . The most likely scenario is that metro Melbourne felt it needed to happen so they could target ex VFL players and as is always the case country had to follow .
 
Another leg up for metro
"The Roar Is Back" said:
Obviously picked up a few last year ultra and was wanting to top up again ?
Personally think the system has a lot of flaws but don’t understand why there was any need for any extra points to be taken off , 2020 didn’t happen . The most likely scenario is that metro Melbourne felt it needed to happen so they could target ex VFL players and as is always the case country had to follow .
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Yep, except metro are losing a point for each player for the 2020 season.
Country are not.
 
"The Roar Is Back" said:
I think you can look at it two ways .

1. It’s great because the affect of the points system will delayed . it is basically giving clubs an extra 5-6 points .

2. It’s stupid why have a system which isn’t being followed , it resets the system back to when it was first introduced and allows for additional recruiting despite no season .

Guess it depends on whether you do or don’t support the points System .
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Scrap the points system and I would be a happy man. Salary caps have a place, although plenty of clubs in various leagues undermine the cap via varied nefarious processes. The point system has in fact reduced the quality of country footy without creating necessary equity. Harder for bottom sides to rise up the ladder and easier for those on top to remain on top.
 
Silver Tongue said:
Scrap the points system and I would be a happy man. Salary caps have a place, although plenty of clubs in various leagues undermine the cap via varied nefarious processes. The point system has in fact reduced the quality of country footy without creating necessary equity. Harder for bottom sides to rise up the ladder and easier for those on top to remain on top.
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Silver I have long advocated that the time and resources spent on trying to stop and restrict clubs would be better off spent on educating people on sustainable management and marketing .
Spend time and resources to get those trailing to get to a higher level or restrict those that are doing things well to the lower level ?
Clubs are still going broke , whilst other sports are gaining ground .
 
Silver Tongue said:
Scrap the points system and I would be a happy man. Salary caps have a place, although plenty of clubs in various leagues undermine the cap via varied nefarious processes. The point system has in fact reduced the quality of country footy without creating necessary equity. Harder for bottom sides to rise up the ladder and easier for those on top to remain on top.
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The points system was introduced because of clubs recruiting a coach, wherever they go they bring 10-12 blokes and take them everywhere, and to stop mercanies going from club to club each year and to promote local players.

It's still flawed as why have more points and greater salary in metro than country it defeats the purpose of the system, as most metro clubs can do all the above with a points system.

It will be interesting, regarding how many clubs spend near the max, once the Gov shuts down the job share and businesses have to declare bankruptcy, no sponsorships or severely slashed sponsorships,

where does the money come from, over half a year of no trading for businesses ? Can't see in a recession clubs being able to pay big bucks for players anywhere in the state, except the malllee, covid doesn't stop a good crop
 

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