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ringo1 said:
It really is time to return to self governed leagues, no cap, nor points because the longer this continues the more damage is being done to community football.
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I'm not sure a dog eat dog world would be great either mate. I'd like to see a far even playing field and promote young guys to play major league footy and over 30 to play minor league footy, with under 23 to be 1 point to transfer from minor to major and over 32 1 point from major to minor.

Otherwise clubs like deer Park won't care, and buy 22 players, some might suggest they don't now, but they didn't play finals this year and they can't just get whoever they want.

I reckon you'd have queues of guys playing for the premiership teams if afl vic did nothing, and we'd see 15 + guys move around with the one coach and destroy a club each time they move. I'm not sure that's coaching.

But there has to be greater incentive for guys to play footy in.the country, keep kids involved after they turn 18 or younger, stop the better teams getting better, where we have tiered comps and allow bottom teams to go from finishing last to being a chance of winning the flag next year, otherwise if there's no hope, players will keep leaving bottom clubs
There also needs to be greater incentives for the best players to play major league footy
 
Trent the flight Steward said:
I'm not sure a dog eat dog world would be great either mate. I'd like to see a far even playing field and promote young guys to play major league footy and over 30 to play minor league footy, with under 23 to be 1 point to transfer from minor to major and over 32 1 point from major to minor.

Otherwise clubs like deer Park won't care, and buy 22 players, some might suggest they don't now, but they didn't play finals this year and they can't just get whoever they want.

I reckon you'd have queues of guys playing for the premiership teams if afl vic did nothing, and we'd see 15 + guys move around with the one coach and destroy a club each time they move. I'm not sure that's coaching.

But there has to be greater incentive for guys to play footy in.the country, keep kids involved after they turn 18 or younger, stop the better teams getting better, where we have tiered comps and allow bottom teams to go from finishing last to being a chance of winning the flag next year, otherwise if there's no hope, players will keep leaving bottom clubs
There also needs to be greater incentives for the best players to play major league footy
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  • Deer Park will do just that ..buy a flag this year. It is their second year in the EDFL and they will do whatever it takes.
  • 2 VFL players join an O&M club for 40K each
  • One player in the NCFL was on 70K just to play, another offered 65K to join a club in that comp this year
  • Coach in the Bellarine League on a reported 65-70K
  • A club in another strong league are giving away blocks of land
  • Better teams are staying up top because all other teams have the same Cap and in some instances points
  • 2 GV players offered 30K each to play in the NCFL
  • Hoppers Crossing flew in Jed Anderson from Darwin and another from the Gold Coast, resulting in winning the flag by a point.
I'm all for a Cap if it is enforced but it's not. Some clubs are cheating and apart from Deer Park and Wang Magpies, there has been little enforcement of the rules. We have players again following the money. It's time for this sort of stuff to be investigated or get rid of the cap. Football quality in the country is diminishing each year. The Bendigo League is on its knees. Its time for a review!
 
ringo1 said:
  • Deer Park will do just that ..buy a flag this year. It is their second year in the EDFL and they will do whatever it takes.
  • 2 VFL players join an O&M club for 40K each
  • One player in the NCFL was on 70K just to play, another offered 65K to join a club in that comp this year
  • Coach in the Bellarine League on a reported 65-70K
  • A club in another strong league are giving away blocks of land
  • Better teams are staying up top because all other teams have the same Cap and in some instances points
  • 2 GV players offered 30K each to play in the NCFL
  • Hoppers Crossing flew in Jed Anderson from Darwin and another from the Gold Coast, resulting in winning the flag by a point.
I'm all for a Cap if it is enforced but it's not. Some clubs are cheating and apart from Deer Park and Wang Magpies, there has been little enforcement of the rules. We have players again following the money. It's time for this sort of stuff to be investigated or get rid of the cap. Football quality in the country is diminishing each year. The Bendigo League is on its knees. Its time for a review!
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I know mate, its not an even playing field and nigh impossible for a coach without financial or employment backing to be on an even keel
 

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ringo1 said:
  • Deer Park will do just that ..buy a flag this year. It is their second year in the EDFL and they will do whatever it takes.
  • 2 VFL players join an O&M club for 40K each
  • One player in the NCFL was on 70K just to play, another offered 65K to join a club in that comp this year
  • Coach in the Bellarine League on a reported 65-70K
  • A club in another strong league are giving away blocks of land
  • Better teams are staying up top because all other teams have the same Cap and in some instances points
  • 2 GV players offered 30K each to play in the NCFL
  • Hoppers Crossing flew in Jed Anderson from Darwin and another from the Gold Coast, resulting in winning the flag by a point.
I'm all for a Cap if it is enforced but it's not. Some clubs are cheating and apart from Deer Park and Wang Magpies, there has been little enforcement of the rules. We have players again following the money. It's time for this sort of stuff to be investigated or get rid of the cap. Football quality in the country is diminishing each year. The Bendigo League is on its knees. Its time for a review!
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Deer Park got off "because there wasn't enough proof" LMAO
 
ringo1 said:
  • Deer Park will do just that ..buy a flag this year. It is their second year in the EDFL and they will do whatever it takes.
  • 2 VFL players join an O&M club for 40K each
  • One player in the NCFL was on 70K just to play, another offered 65K to join a club in that comp this year
  • Coach in the Bellarine League on a reported 65-70K
  • A club in another strong league are giving away blocks of land
  • Better teams are staying up top because all other teams have the same Cap and in some instances points
  • 2 GV players offered 30K each to play in the NCFL
  • Hoppers Crossing flew in Jed Anderson from Darwin and another from the Gold Coast, resulting in winning the flag by a point.
I'm all for a Cap if it is enforced but it's not. Some clubs are cheating and apart from Deer Park and Wang Magpies, there has been little enforcement of the rules. We have players again following the money. It's time for this sort of stuff to be investigated or get rid of the cap. Football quality in the country is diminishing each year. The Bendigo League is on its knees. Its time for a review!
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IMO Deer Park won't because they'll have zero depth & will struggle to fit everyone within the points cap.
They were comfortably beaten by all of the finals standard sides in their comp & their opposition have greater capacity to add reinforcements.

The salary cap is a pisstake with some clubs clearly making a mockery of it but the points cap is the one redeeming thing about the rules that were implemented.
It prevents clubs from dominating as they'd like.. Deer Park, East Keilor, Bundoora & Vermont would dominate under the previous rules where cash was king, now they don't know what to do so are forced to adapt if they wish to compete.
Not a bad thing.
 
Will Hayes left Euroa has gone to Warragul!


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Trent the flight Steward said:
Warragul spend big, haven't done anything since Graham Gahan was coach though- for you younger folk google Graham to see how far back he played and coached
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No hate toward Euroa as I'd imagine they're reasonably well run considering the standard of the comp and their recent finals appearances but Hayes told someone I know that he missed the more professional environment hence his move back to Blues VFL but with the performances Warragul have dished up over last 10 or so years he might be disappointed!

They've brought in a number of ex AFL recently who have under performed (in particular Sumner) or stayed 1 year - Nick Graham was a good performer in a bad side and Jed Lamb when fit has been quality but they've been stuck around the bottom for years despite some pretty consistent junior success.
 
ringo1 said:
I did see Euroa was advertising for a couple of Ruckmen.
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Good luck with that and if lucky enough in finding a couple of big fellas they’ll come with a massive price tag !! I know how hard it was for the swans trying to attract a ruckman before picking up big kovacevic who didn’t come cheap To his credit he more than held his own also winning the clubs B/F
 
swoopin pie said:
Good luck with that and if lucky enough in finding a couple of big fellas they’ll come with a massive price tag !! I know how hard it was for the swans trying to attract a ruckman before picking up big kovacevic who didn’t come cheap To his credit he more than held his own also winning the clubs B/F
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Totally agree Swoop. I know Rochy have been chasing a big ruckman for years as they come with a high $$ value. You only have to look at Morris in the GF. And Holland obviously a Morrison medal winner. The two best in the comp last year. Your bloke probably third best. You look back at blokes like Mark Blake at Mooroopna years back and how he would he would dominate the centre contests. Size does matter!!
 
Silver Tongue said:
Totally agree Swoop. I know Rochy have been chasing a big ruckman for years as they come with a high $$ value. You only have to look at Morris in the GF. And Holland obviously a Morrison medal winner. The two best in the comp last year. Your bloke probably third best. You look back at blokes like Mark Blake at Mooroopna years back and how he would he would dominate the centre contests. Size does matter!!
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And not forgetting big Jake Reeves what a massive part he played in Ky winning a couple those grannies
 

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ringo1 said:
It really is time to return to self governed leagues, no cap, nor points because the longer this continues the more damage is being done to community football.
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Community football? Nobody goes anymore. Take away the netballers, thirds and seconds and there's nobody there. People and times have changed.
ringo1 said:
  • Deer Park will do just that ..buy a flag this year. It is their second year in the EDFL and they will do whatever it takes.
  • 2 VFL players join an O&M club for 40K each
  • One player in the NCFL was on 70K just to play, another offered 65K to join a club in that comp this year
  • Coach in the Bellarine League on a reported 65-70K
  • A club in another strong league are giving away blocks of land
  • Better teams are staying up top because all other teams have the same Cap and in some instances points
  • 2 GV players offered 30K each to play in the NCFL
  • Hoppers Crossing flew in Jed Anderson from Darwin and another from the Gold Coast, resulting in winning the flag by a point.
I'm all for a Cap if it is enforced but it's not. Some clubs are cheating and apart from Deer Park and Wang Magpies, there has been little enforcement of the rules. We have players again following the money. It's time for this sort of stuff to be investigated or get rid of the cap. Football quality in the country is diminishing each year. The Bendigo League is on its knees. Its time for a review!
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And that's why nobody attends. Dirty business.
 
In my time the footy boots would go away post GF and the cricket bats came out. Often the same coaches and certainly the same players. That was and is community football at Rochester.

Problem is this big club called Echuca have changed the rhythms of summer. Rather than bat and ball they are training teaching their forward press across all grades. They won all grades in 2023.
 
Silver Tongue said:
In my time the footy boots would go away post GF and the cricket bats came out. Often the same coaches and certainly the same players. That was and is community football at Rochester.

Problem is this big club called Echuca have changed the rhythms of summer. Rather than bat and ball they are training teaching their forward press across all grades. They won all grades in 2023.
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The times of doing both sports has passed for many. Pre-seasons starting after Australia Day were the norm 20 years ago. I am not sure who thought it would be advantageous to start training in November and December. It makes it a really long season.

I remember thinking of the likes of Sam Ahmet, Ramadan Yze or Paul Newman who would regularly step from an A Grade cricket grand final one weekend, into a GVL Round 1 with maybe one weekend between.
 

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