Goulburn Valley FL 2025

[Silver Tongue]

For what it's worth, in my opinion it is imperative that Moama join the league.

They may struggle initially ... but once parents know there are two options for their kids they will sort it out. Moama will need to ensure they employ the correct coaching structures across their club if they join. There will be initial pain ... it will take time, but as I said I think it's imperative.

 

[J Shuttlesworth]

 

[Passenger]

Am unsure they’ll get many games from him, considering VFL commitments.

Great addition, nonetheless.

 

[Shinjuku]

Chairman of GVL Jacqui Hudgson not reappointed to the position at last nights AGM.

 

[Blues1977]

Great for the Tigers, Builds some great buzz and energy around the club, They are setting themselves up well.

 

[ringo1]

Harry Boyd to be taken by St Kilda

 

[Long Run]

Chairman of GVL Jacqui Hudgson not reappointed to the position at last nights AGM.

Not sure what the bigger story is. Jacqui voted off or the $80k loss. Moama staying put in the Murray league firming into favouritism.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Not sure what the bigger story is. Jacqui voted off or the $80k loss. Moama staying put in the Murray league firming into favouritism.

I understand many people won’t give a shit but a $87k annual loss , which leaves only $96k(???) in reserve should concern everyone .
The league is ultimately on the knifes edge of being insolvent after people like Keith Willian had built something like $500k in assets and growing .
The admin fee has doubled from $70k to over $140k .
Be interesting to see the commission financial position is it merely a case of having taken Dunkirk’s value and moved it into AFLGM’s coffers .

 

[ROOTA#6]

I understand many people want give a shit but a $87k annual loss , which leaves only $96k(???) in reserve should concern everyone .
The league is ultimately on the knifes edge of being insolvent after people like Keith Willian had built something like $500k in assets and growing .
The admin fee has doubled from $70k to over $140k .
Be interesting to see the commission financial position is it merely a case of having taken Dunkirk’s value and moved it into AFLGM’s coffers .

Maybe you could launch a take over

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Maybe you could launch a take over

You can be assured I am not in anyway involved nor have any interest in being involved in such action .

 

[onthehill24]

Not sure what the bigger story is. Jacqui voted off or the $80k loss. Moama staying put in the Murray league firming into favouritism.

Moama might struggle to make top 6 next year
So just stay put
Gv should put more effort into the existing teams

 

[Yepyep]

Moana won’t be in the GV…why would you. They are off to Bendigo. Unless the GV start fining clubs for not fielding teams and getting clubs themselves to put more money and resources into bulking up there numbers then mediocrity will continue. Tough love is what is needed. A $500 fine for not fielding a team on a Sat should be the starting point. Shepp, Shepp Swans and Tatura have worked hard previously to work harder on there junior programs so hopefully that’s starting to come to fruition. Tat are a little way off but are putting in the effort. It’s far too easy for a club to just not field a side.

 

[jayco13]

Moana won’t be in the GV…why would you. They are off to Bendigo. Unless the GV start fining clubs for not fielding teams and getting clubs themselves to put more money and resources into bulking up there numbers then mediocrity will continue. Tough love is what is needed. A $500 fine for not fielding a team on a Sat should be the starting point. Shepp, Shepp Swans and Tatura have worked hard previously to work harder on there junior programs so hopefully that’s starting to come to fruition. Tat are a little way off but are putting in the effort. It’s far too easy for a club to just not field a side.

And why would Moama go to Bendigo??
The Bendigo league is digging itself into a hole it may never recover from.
Letting Broadford in, and then letting them have a year to get themselves ready, is just the start.
GV isn't going great compared to previous years or eras, but they are well ahead of Bendigo.

 

[dud rocket]

Moana won’t be in the GV…why would you. They are off to Bendigo. Unless the GV start fining clubs for not fielding teams and getting clubs themselves to put more money and resources into bulking up there numbers then mediocrity will continue. Tough love is what is needed. A $500 fine for not fielding a team on a Sat should be the starting point. Shepp, Shepp Swans and Tatura have worked hard previously to work harder on there junior programs so hopefully that’s starting to come to fruition. Tat are a little way off but are putting in the effort. It’s far too easy for a club to just not field a side.

What a ridiculous comment.
Do you think fining clubs for not fielding teams is the solution?
There wouldn’t be any clubs “choosing” to not field a side.
Maybe working with clubs on participation and junior pathways might be a better option.

 

[Yepyep]

What a ridiculous comment.
Do you think fining clubs for not fielding teams is the solution?
There wouldn’t be any clubs “choosing” to not field a side.
Maybe working with clubs on participation and junior pathways might be a better option.

Nothing ridiculous about my comment. It’s clubs that need to do the work to get juniors..,not leagues. It’s too easy to forfeit. Clubs pay money to senior players and neglect putting funds and resources into juniors. The GV league is a basket case and Moama along with Echuca should be heading to the Bendigo League. The junior comp there is run so much better and yes the senior part admin wise needs to be looked at very closely so no argument with that. Ridiculous how?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

What a ridiculous comment.
Do you think fining clubs for not fielding teams is the solution?
There wouldn’t be any clubs “choosing” to not field a side.
Maybe working with clubs on participation and junior pathways might be a better option.

Sorry to to be so blunt but the answer is quite simple .

Get rid of junior only comps and make sustainability of community clubs the priority , not making AFl recruiters job easier .
No junior only comps and no TAC cup .

 

[dud rocket]

Sorry to to be so blunt but the answer is quite simple .

Get rid of junior only comps and make sustainability of community clubs the priority , not making AFl recruiters job easier .
No junior only comps and no TAC cup .

Totally agree.
Fixing junior pathways ( removing NAB league) would be a good place to start. Other than making recruiters life easier it doesn’t serve a lot of purpose.
Having a league that worked with club instead of resorting to fining them would be my suggestion.
Ever tried coaching at a club with limited numbers? Forfeitting is a heartbreaking decision to make.

 

[ringo1]

Nothing ridiculous about my comment. It’s clubs that need to do the work to get juniors..,not leagues. It’s too easy to forfeit. Clubs pay money to senior players and neglect putting funds and resources into juniors. The GV league is a basket case and Moama along with Echuca should be heading to the Bendigo League. The junior comp there is run so much better and yes the senior part admin wise needs to be looked at very closely so no argument with that. Ridiculous how?

I'm not sure how small towns get improved junior numbers whilst players attend schools in bigger cities. Echuca is three to four times larger than Tatura, which indicates little hope of success for the Bulldogs under the current jurisdictions. Echuca joining the Bendigo League? I'm not sure a GV powerhouse joining the declining Bendigo Football League would make any sense. In the immediate future, Echuca would win flags at will in the BFNL. Is the GV a basket case? The BFNL is a shambles. Echuca V Broadford would be a Christians V Lions scenario. Any creditability that the BFNL had been diminished since the inception of this ridiculous idea.

 

[onthehill24]

I'm not sure how small towns get improved junior numbers whilst players attend schools in bigger cities. Echuca is three to four times larger than Tatura, which indicates little hope of success for the Bulldogs under the current jurisdictions. Echuca joining the Bendigo League? I'm not sure a GV powerhouse joining the declining Bendigo Football League would make any sense. In the immediate future, Echuca would win flags at will in the BFNL. Is the GV a basket case? The BFNL is a shambles. Echuca V Broadford would be a Christians V Lions scenario. Any creditability that the BFNL had been diminished since the inception of this ridiculous idea.

Plus data suggests Echuca could double in size the next 5 - 10 years

 

[ringo1]

Plus data suggests Echuca could double in size the next 5 - 10 years

The Points system has never taken into account small country towns that struggle to produce big junior numbers. It's the complete opposite of equalization.

 

[MortlockWatcher]

AFL Victoria has tried to deliver a one-size-fits-all points system for all leagues which has not worked.

In WA, when points systems were introduced over a decade ago the leagues had the discretion to determine which clubs got what points.

The Central Midlands Coastal league factored in that Lancelin needed more points because their access to younger players was less than that of other clubs, which allowed them to be more competitive.

The South West league scheme started with a sliding points scale and on top of this, the two smaller towns (Harvey and Donnybrook) could apply for extra points to recruit extra out-of-towners so they could be competitive.

Another league (eight teams, top four) chose to dock a club two points when they were on a run of three of more seasons in a row in the finals and if a club had missed the finals for three or more years then they received a minimum of two extra points with scope to raise that when it reached five years in a row. Once they broke their streak, the bonus/penalty points were discarded.

Having different points tallies for different leagues worked there because there are only a couple of leagues within 2 hours of Perth, unlike in Victoria.

 

[ROOTA#6]

AFL Victoria has tried to deliver a one-size-fits-all points system for all leagues which has not worked.

In WA, when points systems were introduced over a decade ago the leagues had the discretion to determine which clubs got what points.

The Central Midlands Coastal league factored in that Lancelin needed more points because their access to younger players was less than that of other clubs, which allowed them to be more competitive.

The South West league scheme started with a sliding points scale and on top of this, the two smaller towns (Harvey and Donnybrook) could apply for extra points to recruit extra out-of-towners so they could be competitive.

Another league (eight teams, top four) chose to dock a club two points when they were on a run of three of more seasons in a row in the finals and if a club had missed the finals for three or more years then they received a minimum of two extra points with scope to raise that when it reached five years in a row. Once they broke their streak, the bonus/penalty points were discarded.

Having different points tallies for different leagues worked there because there are only a couple of leagues within 2 hours of Perth, unlike in Victoria.

The central Murray league has always had a system that’s had varied points depending on the circumstances of the clubs

 

[Yepyep]

The central Murray league has always had a system that’s had varied points depending on the circumstances of the clubs

Might surprise you but the GV have the same. Not all clubs are/were on the same points this year and won’t be next year. My point is that in more than one occasion last year Benalla as an example forfeited away games in the reserves a couple of times but surprise surprise they had enough numbers both times they did when they played at home the following week. They did this and no ramifications for it. Opposition teams lose money on this with orders for catering and gate money etc . The GV dont reduce the entry fee when a club forfeits so that’s unfair to the home club and the club (Benalla) get off without any ramifications. Reduced gates aren’t good for anybody. I am pretty sure there have been games with only one game (seniors) on the day and that’s an embarrassment not so long ago….my solution is to fine a club if they forfeit a game. This might just make them work that bit harder. After all the home club who has no games because they forfeit are getting fined by less people through the gate but the club that doesn’t field a team gets no consequences. Food for thought I reckon. The GV is in no healthier state than the Bendigo league I can tell you. With the clubs that have now gone it’s the perfect time to introduce Moama, Echuca and Rochester, this can only strengthen the league.

 

[jayco13]

Might surprise you but the GV have the same. Not all clubs are/were on the same points this year and won’t be next year. My point is that in more than one occasion last year Benalla as an example forfeited away games in the reserves a couple of times but surprise surprise they had enough numbers both times they did when they played at home the following week. They did this and no ramifications for it. Opposition teams lose money on this with orders for catering and gate money etc . The GV dont reduce the entry fee when a club forfeits so that’s unfair to the home club and the club (Benalla) get off without any ramifications. Reduced gates aren’t good for anybody. I am pretty sure there have been games with only one game (seniors) on the day and that’s an embarrassment not so long ago….my solution is to fine a club if they forfeit a game. This might just make them work that bit harder. After all the home club who has no games because they forfeit are getting fined by less people through the gate but the club that doesn’t field a team gets no consequences. Food for thought I reckon. The GV is in no healthier state than the Bendigo league I can tell you. With the clubs that have now gone it’s the perfect tome to introduce Moama, Echuca and Rochester, this can only strengthen the league.

There is no way Rochester or Echuca will go to the Bendigo league.
That has been stated on here, by people who would know, numerous times.

 

[jayco13]

Might surprise you but the GV have the same. Not all clubs are/were on the same points this year and won’t be next year. My point is that in more than one occasion last year Benalla as an example forfeited away games in the reserves a couple of times but surprise surprise they had enough numbers both times they did when they played at home the following week. They did this and no ramifications for it. Opposition teams lose money on this with orders for catering and gate money etc . The GV dont reduce the entry fee when a club forfeits so that’s unfair to the home club and the club (Benalla) get off without any ramifications. Reduced gates aren’t good for anybody. I am pretty sure there have been games with only one game (seniors) on the day and that’s an embarrassment not so long ago….my solution is to fine a club if they forfeit a game. This might just make them work that bit harder. After all the home club who has no games because they forfeit are getting fined by less people through the gate but the club that doesn’t field a team gets no consequences. Food for thought I reckon. The GV is in no healthier state than the Bendigo league I can tell you. With the clubs that have now gone it’s the perfect time to introduce Moama, Echuca and Rochester, this can only strengthen the league.

And the fact that clubs can get players to play home games more easily than away games is nothing new. Blokes work the morning in town and can't make the away game, but can home games... nothing mischievous or untoward... it's just the way it is. You start fining clubs for every forfeit, they'll just pull the pin on reserves football altogether.