Goulburn Valley FL - Part 2

[phantom 309]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

Bundyrum it's time someone pulled your head in. The echuca fans at the Echuca v Seymour game ( i was also present) were reacting to a Guy (saad saad) who arrogantly flipped his middle digit up at the crowd after he kicked a goal (in the second qaurter). He incited the tension to start with and when he knocked out Sutton in a GUTLESS act and was sent off he copped it from the crowd (who were in a large tent for Echuca's Sponsors day). When he was sent off the ground he again flipped his middle digit up at the Supporters in the tent and they gave it to him...i don't condone racism but nothing has been said about the ARROGANT act that Saad did to encite all of this. Further to this he then pulls the racism card out of his pocket two only get 2 weeks for knocking Sutton out (Gutless). The tribunal then handed down the softest decision i have seen in 10yrs. It was worth 4-6 weeks. Saad will get his own what for when Echuca does travel down to play the Arrogant sooky lions on their own patch...Echuca will win by 3 goals.
Just thought i would put the real truth out their for those that were not present.

and your arraogant perthetic post is why your version of what happened is clearly tainted, so if Saad did point his finger at the Echuce supporters after he kicked a goal WHY did he,thats if he did do it at all, just for the fun of it hey,are you saying he was not subjected to racial taunts, as there are many lions supporters that are in no dought that he was, most supporters go to the footy for a good fun day out you are the type that want to turn it into a confrontation, as i said at the start PERTHETIC.

 

[morphous]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

and your arraogant perthetic post is why your version of what happened is clearly tainted, so if Saad did point his finger at the Echuce supporters after he kicked a goal WHY did he,thats if he did do it at all, just for the fun of it hey,are you saying he was not subjected to racial taunts, as there are many lions supporters that are in no dought that he was, most supporters go to the footy for a good fun day out you are the type that want to turn it into a confrontation, as i said at the start PERTHETIC.

I think he means that he gave the crowd the birdie/stuck his middle finger up. Darryl White got reported on the weekend up here for doing that.

 

[yeehaaaaaaaaaaaa]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

I'll tell you why he stuck his finger up!!!!!!!! It's because he has A BIG HEAD!!! an arrogant person on the football field who can play football...that's why. He brought it on himself...get your head out of the sand and understand something!!! The seymour football club are arrogant (refer to last years grand final weekender edition and what the president said about players from other clubs) rude, arrogant and full of rheteric.
Yes Seymour are successful with grand finals but let me tell you a great quote: "Be humble in Victory and gracious in Defeat." That is not what Seymour FC are.

 

[No Heart]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

Bundyrum it's time someone pulled your head in. The echuca fans at the Echuca v Seymour game ( i was also present) were reacting to a Guy (saad saad) who arrogantly flipped his middle digit up at the crowd after he kicked a goal (in the second qaurter). He incited the tension to start with and when he knocked out Sutton in a GUTLESS act and was sent off he copped it from the crowd (who were in a large tent for Echuca's Sponsors day). When he was sent off the ground he again flipped his middle digit up at the Supporters in the tent and they gave it to him...i don't condone racism but nothing has been said about the ARROGANT act that Saad did to encite all of this. Further to this he then pulls the racism card out of his pocket two only get 2 weeks for knocking Sutton out (Gutless). The tribunal then handed down the softest decision i have seen in 10yrs. It was worth 4-6 weeks. Saad will get his own what for when Echuca does travel down to play the Arrogant sooky lions on their own patch...Echuca will win by 3 goals.
Just thought i would put the real truth out their for those that were not present.

Let me just clear a few things up here for you yeehaaaaaaaaa.

Saad did give the crowd the bird, as he 'lost it' due to the taunts he received from your supporters, players and runner. If you think I'm talking crap about the taunts, simply ask a few of your players who were involved in the game.

Yes he collected Sutton, and yes he should have got weeks for it (which he did). Whether the 2 week suspension was enough is something we could debate all day long, however Warburton (Swans) did a pretty good job of cleaning up Liddell the following game, and got a reprimand (subsequently over turned into a 1 week suspension by VCFL). Difficult to work out why both players didn't receive a similar suspension at the outset.

Lastly, let me just say that if you want to fill a tent full of sponsors and provide grog for them to swill all day, one would think you should set the tent up somewhere else rather than the interchange area.

Whichever way you look at it, the whole day was a bit of a shambles and I don't think either side should be happy with their conduct on the day.

 

[Bundyrum]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

Let me just clear a few things up here for you yeehaaaaaaaaa.

Saad did give the crowd the bird, as he 'lost it' due to the taunts he received from your supporters, players and runner. If you think I'm talking crap about the taunts, simply ask a few of your players who were involved in the game.

Yes he collected Sutton, and yes he should have got weeks for it (which he did). Whether the 2 week suspension was enough is something we could debate all day long, however Warburton (Swans) did a pretty good job of cleaning up Liddell the following game, and got a reprimand (subsequently over turned into a 1 week suspension by VCFL). Difficult to work out why both players didn't receive a similar suspension at the outset.

Lastly, let me just say that if you want to fill a tent full of sponsors and provide grog for them to swill all day, one would think you should set the tent up somewhere else rather than the interchange area.

Whichever way you look at it, the whole day was a bit of a shambles and I don't think either side should be happy with their conduct on the day.

Well said, No Heart & Phantom 309. This yeehaaaaaaaaa character, I think, has a real problem excepting the truth and shows that he can't control himself. Was he one of the w***ers taunting Saad, or just a w***er? Anyhow it will be a great game and one NOT to miss!!

 

[ECHUCABOY]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

Well said, No Heart & Phantom 309. This yeehaaaaaaaaa character, I think, has a real problem excepting the truth and shows that he can't control himself. Was he one of the w***ers taunting Saad, or just a w***er? Anyhow it will be a great game and one NOT to miss!!

From an outsiders point of view it seems both may have been in the wrong, sticking your finger up at a sponsors tent isn't going to go without a response!! Anyway I will certainly be there for a look at the end of the season and it should be a cracker....on to the next round of matches......

 

[freelance]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

I'll tell you why he stuck his finger up!!!!!!!! It's because he has A BIG HEAD!!! an arrogant person on the football field who can play football...that's why. He brought it on himself...get your head out of the sand and understand something!!! The seymour football club are arrogant (refer to last years grand final weekender edition and what the president said about players from other clubs) rude, arrogant and full of rheteric.
Yes Seymour are successful with grand finals but let me tell you a great quote: "Be humble in Victory and gracious in Defeat." That is not what Seymour FC are.

if you believe the president wrote that column your very naive. the s.f.c are far from arrogent.

 

[phantom 309]

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I'll tell you why he stuck his finger up!!!!!!!! It's because he has A BIG HEAD!!! an arrogant person on the football field who can play football...that's why. He brought it on himself...get your head out of the sand and understand something!!! The seymour football club are arrogant (refer to last years grand final weekender edition and what the president said about players from other clubs) rude, arrogant and full of rheteric.
Yes Seymour are successful with grand finals but let me tell you a great quote: "Be humble in Victory and gracious in Defeat." That is not what Seymour FC are.

and it keeps getting clearer and clearer, so you dont like the SFC and the the day in question was the the perfect oppertunity for you and your racist buddies to have a red hot crack at them it is that it, so you must be so very proud of yourselfe, i hope you are not a club official as it would say nothing good about the Echuca football club if you are, and i've been around long enough to know that they would not be tolerating people like you for long, there are other clubs for people like you unfortunaly for you most of them were disbanded in the 1960 in the southern states of america.

 

[Tatsean]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

I'll tell you why he stuck his finger up!!!!!!!! It's because he has A BIG HEAD!!! an arrogant person on the football field who can play football...that's why. He brought it on himself...get your head out of the sand and understand something!!! The seymour football club are arrogant (refer to last years grand final weekender edition and what the president said about players from other clubs) rude, arrogant and full of rheteric.
Yes Seymour are successful with grand finals but let me tell you a great quote: "Be humble in Victory and gracious in Defeat." That is not what Seymour FC are.

I am not commenting on individual players or on field incidents but you may be correct on your last comment. A bloke I know who plays for Mooroopna said that none of the Seymour players went to the Mooroopna club rooms after they lost to them a couple of weeks ago. I would hope he was bullsh***ng me but maybe you are right.

 

[yeehaaaaaaaaaaaa]

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Read my previous posts guys...i stated i did not condone racism. Let's make that perfectly clear. The EFC does not either. What i am demonstrating is that Saad encited it to a point long before the Alleged racist remarks. I at no stage stated that the crowd didn't have a go at him, i stated that while nobody should be the victim of racist taunt's he (Saad) contributed to the outcome by his actions of sticking his finger up at the crowd not once but twice. That occurred long before the crowd etc had a go at him. He needs to take some responsability for the outcome.
The issue regarding what their president said or didn't say in the weekender on Grand final day last year whether he wrote that or not it still had his name to it...Poor form i would have thought.

 

[phantom 309]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

Read my previous posts guys...i stated i did not condone racism. Let's make that perfectly clear. The EFC does not either. What i am demonstrating is that Saad encited it to a point long before the Alleged racist remarks. I at no stage stated that the crowd didn't have a go at him, i stated that while nobody should be the victim of racist taunt's he (Saad) contributed to the outcome by his actions of sticking his finger up at the crowd not once but twice. That occurred long before the crowd etc had a go at him. He needs to take some responsability for the outcome.
The issue regarding what their president said or didn't say in the weekender on Grand final day last year whether he wrote that or not it still had his name to it...Poor form i would have thought.

No you read your previous posts what you have stated in one sentence you contradict in others, it was HIS FAULT THAT HE WAS SUBJECTED TO RACIAL ABUSE that is what you are saying, ITS HIS FAULT BECAUSE IN YOUR OPINION HE IS ARRAGANT, do you even know what you are saying, the best thing you could do is say sorry and move on.

 

[IKE TURNER]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

no You Read Your Previous Posts What You Have Stated In One Sentence You Contradict In Others, It Was His Fault That He Was Subjected To Racial Abuse That Is What You Are Saying, Its His Fault Because In Your Opinion He Is Arragant, Do You Even Know What You Are Saying, The Best Thing You Could Do Is Say Sorry And Move On.

From An Unbiased Footy Fan I Think If You Pay Your 8.50$ To Get In The Footy You Can Yell Your Head Off And Say What You Want-as Long As Its Not Abusive Or Racist And As Long As You Dont Mind Looking Like A Bit Of A Dill.good Players Play Better When Getting Hassled By Opposition Fans.and If A Player Gives Fans The Finger-no Big Deal Im Sure The Echuca Barrackers Are Big Boys And Can Handle It,they Would Probably Be Happy To Be Given The Finger Cause It Means The Player Is Listening To Them And Not Concertrating On Footy.

 

[phantom 309]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

From An Unbiased Footy Fan I Think If You Pay Your 8.50$ To Get In The Footy You Can Yell Your Head Off And Say What You Want-as Long As Its Not Abusive Or Racist And As Long As You Dont Mind Looking Like A Bit Of A Dill.good Players Play Better When Getting Hassled By Opposition Fans.and If A Player Gives Fans The Finger-no Big Deal Im Sure The Echuca Barrackers Are Big Boys And Can Handle It,they Would Probably Be Happy To Be Given The Finger Cause It Means The Player Is Listening To Them And Not Concertrating On Footy.

yes agree as long as it is not as you said abusive or racist, and clearly we had racist and offencive abuse towards a lions player that just happens to be a muslim. WHY, and its his own fault is not a reasonable answer.

 

[ringo1]

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I'm sure the return bout will be terrific but I don't think we can label the Echuca football club racists. Anyone can get into a ground and hurl abuse and then unfortunately the finger is pointed at the entire club. I'm sure all concerned perhaps got caught up in the emotion at the time. Hopefully its a good hard old fashioned game when the two meet again

 

[lacedout]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

heard on the grapevine that euroa young gun ash hobbs has put in a clearance to vt or on the verge after a falling out with the club on the weekend.

 

[KDL KINGS]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

heard on the grapevine that euroa young gun ash hobbs has put in a clearance to vt or on the verge after a falling out with the club on the weekend.

if he was such a gun y would he be going violet town they r shit house.

 

[badhairday]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

yes agree as long as it is not as you said abusive or racist, and clearly we had racist and offencive abuse towards a lions player that just happens to be a muslim. WHY, and its his own fault is not a reasonable answer.

Saad's copped heaps worse than that in his life and he'll bounce back. Even though you may consider what he did was arrogant, I think it is a fair response to coping racist comments and I would challenge people to say it to him off the field.

Echuca isn't a racist club; no doubt a few too many beers from a couple of peanuts incited it into a bigger event.

I think it is time for both parties to redeem themselves from what was obviously a fairly loose and unprofessional day.

 

[fat back pocket]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

I'll tell you why he stuck his finger up!!!!!!!! It's because he has A BIG HEAD!!! an arrogant person on the football field who can play football...that's why. He brought it on himself...get your head out of the sand and understand something!!! The seymour football club are arrogant (refer to last years grand final weekender edition and what the president said about players from other clubs) rude, arrogant and full of rheteric.
Yes Seymour are successful with grand finals but let me tell you a great quote: "Be humble in Victory and gracious in Defeat." That is not what Seymour FC are.

You're an idiot. Stuart Locke did not write that in last years GF weekender. I think you will find it was two of the Lions local boys who were asked to write the weekender throughout the year. I shall leave their names a secret for legal reasons, I'm sure rob and joff would like that. And all of those who were mentioned either knew about it or when they saw it and found out who wrote it, knew it was in gest and a joke. No time for fun anymore???

As for Saad, if he sticks the digit up...give it back...that it. No need at all to get racist. As if you wouldn't be arrogant if you could consistantly kick 5+ goals a game whilst getting the attention saad gets. He's not exactly built like Monster Mensch.

 

[bradrowe#32]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

I'll tell you why he stuck his finger up!!!!!!!! It's because he has A BIG HEAD!!! an arrogant person on the football field who can play football...that's why. He brought it on himself...get your head out of the sand and understand something!!! The seymour football club are arrogant (refer to last years grand final weekender edition and what the president said about players from other clubs) rude, arrogant and full of rheteric.
Yes Seymour are successful with grand finals but let me tell you a great quote: "Be humble in Victory and gracious in Defeat." That is not what Seymour FC are.

What was written?

 

[Alley cat]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

What was written?

Check it out on the Seymour website under news central Rowey, quite an amusing read, all harmless fun. Dunno what this yeehaaaaaaaaaaaa fella was on about, didn't give his arguement much credit when he mentioned this.

 

[trevor_byers]

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hey guys remember to listen in to FM 98.5 this Saturday from 1pm

www.fm985.com.au

Shepparton Swans v Echuca @ Princess Park, Shepparton

Graeme Byrnes, Wes Cusworth, John 'JR' Ryan, Michael Van Dorser, Daffy Lamaro and Trevor Byers

cheers guys

 

[ringo1]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

hey guys remember to listen in to FM 98.5 this Saturday from 1pm

www.fm985.com.au

Shepparton Swans v Echuca @ Princess Park, Shepparton

Graeme Byrnes, Wes Cusworth, John 'JR' Ryan, Michael Van Dorser, Daffy Lamaro and Trevor Byers

cheers guys

Good work guys

 

[cellar dweller]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

Kyabram to win in an upset. Seymour a far too ahead of themselves this year. Kyabrame by 13 points.
Best if Benalla save on fuel and match payments. Forefiet. Rochester by 83 points.
Shepp Swans to lose at home to Echuca. Echuca by 37 points. Peter White under preasure and wont be coaching Swans next year (Id get ride of him now).

 

[live the dream]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

Kyabram to win in an upset. Seymour a far too ahead of themselves this year. Kyabrame by 13 points.
Best if Benalla save on fuel and match payments. Forefiet. Rochester by 83 points.
Shepp Swans to lose at home to Echuca. Echuca by 37 points. Peter White under preasure and wont be coaching Swans next year (Id get ride of him now).

Swans to win nailbitter, Guy Campbell, Chris Casey and Brad Smith out for Echuca. Swans are yet to lose at home and after all they've copped during the week you'd expect them to bounce back. There is still a question mark on Ky when they play the top teams, maybe a win against Seymour will give them some momentum? Seymour aren't quite right and I don't think they can afford to have similar slumps to what they've had over the last couple of teams, especially with Echuca, Mooroopna and Rochester in good form. You'd expect Rochy to win but I'm tippring Benalla to improve in the second half of the season especially with Ricky Symes and a handful of other regulars working their way back into the side.

Tips
Swans 8pts
Ky 10pts
Rochy 12pts

 

[FOOTYBOSS]

Re: Official GVFL Thread (part 2)

GVFL SENIOR TEAMS
SEYMOUR
B: Pemberton, O'Keefe, Kliemt

HB: Hooper, Inness, Anderson

C: Reid, Penn, van Riet

HF: Hateley, Colbert, Ellis

F: Saad, Loraine, Russo

Foll: Tomkin, Scanlon, Liddell

Inter: Amad, Green, Haberman

ROCHESTER

B: Perry, Moon, P. Oliver

HB: Cavallaro, K. Oliver, Oakley

C: Hyden, Schmidt, Watson

HF: Deuscher, McPhee, Whipp

F: Cuttriss, Letcher, Whitsed

Foll: Givney, Haitsma, Moon

Inter: Rasmussen, Spizzica, Williams

ECHUCA

B: Byrne, Sutton, McKittrick

HB: Halloran, Prendergast, Pollock

C: Herrick, Durie, Guinan

HF: Nance, Wilkinson, Butler

F: Gilmour, Murphy, Mills

Foll: Zannella, Tonizzo, Dohnt

Inter: Wilkinson, Grossman, Rayson

SWANS

B: T. Hebbard, Barton, Baker

HB: Hackett, M. Hebbard, Best

C: Finnen, Bell, Carroll

HF: Barolli, Ryan, White

F: Uebergang, Dundovic, Sutherland

Foll: Veal, Yze, Warburton

Inter: Looby, Henry, Hare

KYABRAM

B: McCormack, Vick, Croxford

HB: Pryde, Calm-Holt, Warren

C: B. Edwards, Thomson, Deledio

HF: Mangan, Newman, Newman

F: Coulstock, Singh, R. Edwards

Foll: Coventry, Withers, Atkins

Inter: Gorman, Hanson, Chambers

Emerg: Vick, Hilton

BENALLA

B: D. Symes, D. McKenzie, Polwarth

HB: Green, Fahey, Stevens

C: Harris, Bull, Dalton

HF: McKean, MacKenzie, Roscoe

F: P. Symes, R. Symes, Cook

Foll: Cooper, Priest, Rockliff

Inter: T. McKenzie, Harrison, Pollard