Goulburn Valley FL - Part 3

[sparra]

The Euroa factor would have a fair bit to do with the lack of chirp on here. Everyone i ask says it could be a lean year and that money well is gone. If the locals aren't even optimistic.... well could be long one. Talking to another ex player on the w/e and he even suggested that the club may not be able to compete at GV level for that much longer. This may be just negative crap, but makes for interesting debate. A small town in very tough economic times with no real hub of employment. Any comments??

Maybe if the 20 something year olds that seem to be residing/relocating in both Benalla and Euroa actually played footy or even sport for that matter it might help things. Employment seems to be getting scarce, especially at Euroa. Loss of work due to injury is another concern. Maybe the AFL/VCFL could come up with some insurance package to look after this, as the enforced insurance for clubs at the moment is a joke.

 

[head67]

Comes back to the juniors?? Have they got good kids coming through and is the club preparing them to play senior footy? Perhaps they were ignored while the club focused on the big name recruits that cost a heap...best way to save coin is to play your kids and turn them into good senior footballers.....

You have bee in your Bonds about this paid player thing.. Even when i played 3rds we were the whipping side. When was the last time the pies won a 3rds flag. They just aren't as big a junior base as your town. And most of the regional kids play for distrct clubs. eg. Violet Town, Longwood.

 

[footyclassified09]

Comes back to the juniors?? Have they got good kids coming through and is the club preparing them to play senior footy? Perhaps they were ignored while the club focused on the big name recruits that cost a heap...best way to save coin is to play your kids and turn them into good senior footballers.....

Like all small towns, footy clubs within those areas are on the decline. Kids leave the area cause there is no work or they go to uni. Trouble with GVFL clubs is that they all chase a flag and it is a fact of life that it cost coin to do it, to the detrement of the locals. Look at Mansfield, Swans, United, Echuca, Seymour and Kyabram etc all larger regional areas but they spend big $$$ on blokes who hang around for a few years and then nick off. Our Ky friend is testament to this. Seymour are successful cause they are closer to melbourne and blokes will travel an hour or so to play.

What happens to the kids? They go to lesser league ( no disrespect to those leagues) and dont develop as better footballers. They become SOCIAL footballers. On the other hand you have clubs that continue to take juniors from the school competitions well before their bodies and minds are ready for the higher leagues. They then stuff them up!! Not many clubs can state that their entire side is made up of locals and the fact remains it wont happen in this day and age.

 

[lacedout]

You have bee in your Bonds about this paid player thing.. Even when i played 3rds we were the whipping side. When was the last time the pies won a 3rds flag. They just aren't as big a junior base as your town. And most of the regional kids play for distrct clubs. eg. Violet Town, Longwood.

i think that euora may surprise a few with all this negative talk hopefuly there has been a bit of work done behind the scenes and they come out and be the surprise packet for the year i know they have some talented juniors thats why they always struggle in the 3rd eighteen cause they lose a few players to the seniors and there is not much depth in the thirds

 

[ECHUCABOY]

You have bee in your Bonds about this paid player thing.. Even when i played 3rds we were the whipping side. When was the last time the pies won a 3rds flag. They just aren't as big a junior base as your town. And most of the regional kids play for distrct clubs. eg. Violet Town, Longwood.

The more I think about it the more I think that it must be extremely hard for a club like Euroa to consistently be a good side without a large slice of their players living in melbourne....by no means am i having a crack at Euroa head67 and if it is as hard as people are saying to develop juniors and keep them at the club I see no answer but paying $$$ for city slickers.

 

[FOOTY07!]

The more I think about it the more I think that it must be extremely hard for a club like Euroa to consistently be a good side without a large slice of their players living in melbourne....by no means am i having a crack at Euroa head67 and if it is as hard as people are saying to develop juniors and keep them at the club I see no answer but paying $$$ for city slickers.

There has to be a mix- look at Rochy for example. They have a solid base of local footballers who have developed in their juniors and have topped up the side with a number of good recuits from out of town. They have developed a very good side without having to buy an entire premiership team.

 

[ECHUCABOY]

There has to be a mix- look at Rochy for example. They have a solid base of local footballers who have developed in their juniors and have topped up the side with a number of good recuits from out of town. They have developed a very good side without having to buy an entire premiership team.

You have to remember the the majority of Rochester interbreed and are all is some shape or form related, therefor the desire to play with each other is very high...

 

[blue_12]

There has to be a mix- look at Rochy for example. They have a solid base of local footballers who have developed in their juniors and have topped up the side with a number of good recuits from out of town. They have developed a very good side without having to buy an entire premiership team.

Clubs like euroa 3rds have always had the odds stacked against them. They are always gonna have a low player base and imo of the few kids that do choose to play football in the area most play socially and care very little about develping their own game or endeavour for any kind of team success. Of the very few that show glimpses of potential they have little opportunity to showcase their ability beacause the senior side is full of paid imports and therefore they have few opportunities make the seniors and take that next step. Its also difficult to retain the local talent where there is few employment opportunities. Rochy have been a successful club for a very long time and have always had a healthy blend of good juniors and very loyal seniors however its not fair to compare Euroa as i think rochester has a better proximity in terms of neighbouring towns like Echuca and Bendigo that can provide jobs and a reason for the kids and players in general to stick around

 

[lion's_roar]

Is the Simon Hart, who has apparantly signed with Mansfield, the son of Richmond legend Royce? I know he had a son by that name that was on Richmonds list, or at least a rookie a few years back.

It is indeed the son of Royce.

 

[LeftFootRaker]

S.Hart $1000 a game
N. Hart and S.Armstrong $600 each a game...not bad for being out of the game for 2 years How many lift passes does that buy....or chains for the trip through the snow!hmmmm

 

[Ashtray]

Seymour being in close proximatey to Melb certainly doesn't equate to an ability to have a constant stream of decent players. they were very average for many years. Its all about keeping the locals keen, employing the right coach and recruiting the right type of bloke. As well as having a sound business minded committee with the "right mix" of people. Don't get too hung up on the $$$$$$$$$$$.

Like all small towns, footy clubs within those areas are on the decline. Kids leave the area cause there is no work or they go to uni. Trouble with GVFL clubs is that they all chase a flag and it is a fact of life that it cost coin to do it, to the detrement of the locals. Look at Mansfield, Swans, United, Echuca, Seymour and Kyabram etc all larger regional areas but they spend big $$$ on blokes who hang around for a few years and then nick off. Our Ky friend is testament to this. Seymour are successful cause they are closer to melbourne and blokes will travel an hour or so to play.

What happens to the kids? They go to lesser league ( no disrespect to those leagues) and dont develop as better footballers. They become SOCIAL footballers. On the other hand you have clubs that continue to take juniors from the school competitions well before their bodies and minds are ready for the higher leagues. They then stuff them up!! Not many clubs can state that their entire side is made up of locals and the fact remains it wont happen in this day and age.

 

[head67]

i think that euora may surprise a few with all this negative talk hopefuly there has been a bit of work done behind the scenes and they come out and be the surprise packet for the year i know they have some talented juniors thats why they always struggle in the 3rd eighteen cause they lose a few players to the seniors and there is not much depth in the thirds

Could only be good for the league if they do suprise a few. I'd imagine Pudda would be good with the young blokes. He's got some good blokes on his bench. Made for good discussion anyway.

 

[ECHUCABOY]

S.Hart $1000 a game
N. Hart and S.Armstrong $600 each a game...not bad for being out of the game for 2 years How many lift passes does that buy....or chains for the trip through the snow!hmmmm

To answer your question...yearly pass x2

 

[bradrowe#32]

To answer your question...yearly pass x2

Sure you're not a Melbourne supporter?

 

[TuskenRaider]

The more I think about it the more I think that it must be extremely hard for a club like Euroa to consistently be a good side without a large slice of their players living in melbourne....by no means am i having a crack at Euroa head67 and if it is as hard as people are saying to develop juniors and keep them at the club I see no answer but paying $$$ for city slickers.

As much as we've had some differences of opinion I've gotta agree with you Echucaboy that developing your juniors at any club is the way to go as much as you can. Generally speaking the aim of the thirds side is (or should be) to get kids coming through to play senior football.

If you keep them coming back it forms the base to build on. No club would survive without this base, and then it's all about getting the mix right.

 

[live the dream]

Clubs do need to look after their locals, but what should a club do when they do everything they can to do this, but yet they chase the dollars from other clubs who can offer much more than them? Do you suggest to recruit or just sit and wait for them to return?

 

[ringo1]

Any practice matches this weekend?

 

[Rushy Tiger]

Any practice matches this weekend?

Rochy Vs Koondrook-Barham @ Barham.

 

[Mitty]

Tatura v Wang Magpies at Tatura this saturday. Tat to unveil a few of their big recruits.

 

[ringo1]

Tatura v Wang Magpies at Tatura this saturday. Tat to unveil a few of their big recruits.

Thanks for those guys-what about the shepparton teams?

 

[marc_murphy88]

Thanks for those guys-what about the shepparton teams?

Shepp v Kyabram @ Kyabram tomorrow night

United v Golden Square @ Congupna on Saturday

Swans not playing this weekend, play Albion Saturday week

 

[boofaaa79]

Shepp v Kyabram @ Kyabram tomorrow night

United v Golden Square @ Congupna on Saturday

Swans not playing this weekend, play Albion Saturday week

Swans boys: Albion have some very quick and some very big new recruits they will be on show against you guys sat week. They are a very strong side in the western region league should be top 3 in there league, but i've got some cash on the swans with one of my mates from WRFL if you win there is a few beers and slabs after the game.

 

[FOOTYBOSS]

Tigers set new season test
Rochester kicks off its Goulburn Valley Football League premiership defence with a practice match against Central Murray side Koondrook-Barham at Barham tomorrow.
The Tigers will take an undermanned side into match, their first real hit-out since defeating Seymour in last year's grand final.

``We'll have about 10 blokes out I think with guys still playing cricket or working,'' coach Daniel Schmidt said.

``It should still be a good hit-out for the boys that play. We're looking forward to getting back into it.''

Shepparton United is in a similar position ahead of its practice match against Golden Square at Congupna tomorrow.

The Demons will be without up to 10 players through either cricket commitments, injury or a wedding in what will be their first game under new coach Marc Quarrell.

``We're not sure if we'll play two games (seniors and reserves) or just one six-quarter game. It depends on how many numbers each side has on the day,'' Quarrell said.

Quarrell said while his side will be far from full strength, the match will be a good opportunity to have a look at some of his younger players.

A resurgent Tatura side will take two-time reigning Ovens and Murray premier Wangaratta from 2pm tomorrow in what will be arguably the most interesting of all practice games involving a GVFL side.

Tatura went winless last season but has recruited well in the off-season to date and looks set to be the competition's big improver this year.

One of Tatura's marquee recruits, dual Wangaratta premiership defender Ben Cosgriff, will miss the game against his former side as he is still recovering from post-season shoulder surgery.

Kyabram and Shepparton will play each other under lights at Kyabram Recreation Reserve from 6pm tonight.

 

[FOOTYBOSS]

Carlile to help Pies ease pain
Euroa's off-season exodus has been slightly tempered with the signing of Rob Carlile for the Goulburn Valley Football League season.

Carlile, the brother Port Adelaide defender Alipate, joins the Magpies from Ovens and King league Milawa, where he spent the past three seasons.

He spent his junior career playing for Wangaratta Rovers in the Ovens and Murray competition.

Euroa coach David Putamorsi works with Carlile, which proved the link to him joining the club.

``Rob's a good size athlete like his brother (Alipate) and is good pick-up for us,'' Putamorsi said.

Euroa has suffered the most of any GVFL club during the off-season with the departures of last year's century goalkicker and best and fairest Mark Jansz, star midfielder Shane Clayton, Hayden Lamaro and indigenous Darwin duo Relton Roberts and Rowan Bonson, to name a few.

The Magpies have struggled to recruit to cover what they lost, with Carlile adding to the earlier signings of Hayden Buckley, Pat Horsburgh and Adam Brayshaw. Fred Cameron has also returned.

 

[bazlurhmann]

Seymour to open up their season against craigiburn on sat