Opinion Greatest team of the past decade (2005-2014)

[MatLewis5]

Given that Hawthorn and Sydney are genuine Premiership chances. Should one of them go all the way in 2014 that will elevate them to 3 Flags in past 10 years. Equal with Geelong. Given our over all winning record, All Australians, Brownlows etc. You would be hard pressed to argue against us still carrying the mantle as the current 'Team of the decade'. But when measuring us against the other two in terms of just 'Ultimate success'. We would sit equal with one of these two teams. Which doesn't sit right with me. I understand we have been in a rebuilding phase for the past 2-3 seasons (Hawks and Swans have obviously had to rebuild as well) but when I look back on this great Geelong era. Geelong 4, Hawthorn 2, Sydney 2 seems like a pretty accurate and pleasing result in my eyes.

Just wondering what everyone else thinks about our current era/past decade in terms of Premiership success. Did we pinch one or two given that the Saints and Pies were the best teams through 2009 and 2011 home and away seasons? Have we won the 'right amount' given the 2008 result (tried my hardest not to bring this day up) or do you think we should have won more? Is comparing our success to the success of the Hawks and Swans of the past decade the wrong way to look at it?

 

[dazbroncos]

Simple. We win this year. 4 from 8.

Game over.

Get it done fellas and make our lives just delicious…

Go Catters

 

[MatLewis5]

Simple. We win this year. 4 from 8.

Game over.

Get it done fellas and make our lives just delicious…

Go Catters

Sounds good to me Daz. Not only a Preimiership this year but a Premiership win over the Hawks and there is no argument what so ever. However if the unthinkable happens and the Hawks beat us in the Premiership decider. I will be dreading the '3 flags each and we beat you for 2 of them' argument.

 

[barmy44]

i dont think there is any need for making it a contest... i have enjoyed each and every season in different ways since 2005, especially the years we won. ill continue to enjoy watching the team, even if hawthorn, sydney or someone else entirely wins the next 5 straight.

i would say just enjoy the ride, and ignore the temptation to worry about where we rank subjectively to the 'football community' or general public.

... if the unthinkable happens and the Hawks beat us in the Premiership decider. I will be dreading the '3 flags each and we beat you for 2 of them' argument.

just ignore it... the only way online ammo like that can get to you is if you let it. should a hawks fan on BF say that to you, just say 'you sure did, shame we had to come up against such a good team in 2 GFs!'

if you dont argue the point, the 'troll-quality' of the material is precisely 0.

 

[MatLewis5]

I guess 'dreading' was the wrong word. In terms of bragging rights on BF im not that fussed at all. Get a good laugh out of the trolling on here (both for and against lol). Its more in terms of overall Premiership success. After all that is what footy is about. The Hawks are our next obstacle in that regard given that they have 11 Premierships to our 9. It would just be a shame that given we our in the middle/at the end of one of our most successful eras, but at the end of 2014 we may be no closer to over taking them then we were at the start of 2007.

 

[barmy44]

I guess 'dreading' was the wrong word. In terms of bragging rights on BF im not that fussed at all. Get a good laugh out of the trolling on here (both for and against lol). Its more in terms of overall Premiership success. After all that is what footy is about. The Hawks are our next obstacle in that regard given that they have 11 Premierships to our 9. It would just be a shame that given we our in the middle/at the end of one of our most successful eras, but at the end of 2014 we may be no closer to over taking them then we were at the start of 2007.

i suppose... but the whole 11 > 9 thing doesnt matter to me at all. the 1963 premiership means absolutely nothing to me. as far as im concerned, the number 3 is all that matters, and there is no other number to compare it to or contrast it with. ive seen 3 geelong premierships, and ive enjoyed each one. what other teams do doesnt bother me, so for me its really just '3'. and it has been a pretty f***ing amazing 3 at that.

i find the glee with which supporters throw premiership numbers about (especially on here) more than a touch bizarre... the personal pride and satisfaction some posters take in success that they either didnt see or merely watched is just so strange to me.

its way more important to me that i got to personally experience and watch our (arguably) most successful era ever, than exactly where or how it ranks or how many the club has totalled.

geelong could have 28 VFL/AFL premierships since 1897, and the only ones that would mean a thing to me would be the ones i watched. and i would never feel the need to throw that number at any other supporter, cause all any of us really do is watch.

the fact i support a team sitting on 9 premierships does not make me more/less entitled to an opinion, or a better/lesser person (which some on here kind of seem to think), etc etc than supporters of a team sitting on 1 or 17.

this bit is definitely not directed at you, but there is so much child-like behaviour on this site by what are usually adults, all based around how an ever changing list of 48 men that happen to play in the colours we decided to like fare in a game. BF can be a weird and wonderful world.

 

[witsend]

i suppose... but the whole 11 > 9 thing doesnt matter to me at all. the 1963 premiership means absolutely nothing to me. as far as im concerned, the number 3 is all that matters, and there is no other number to compare it to or contrast it with. ive seen 3 geelong premierships, and ive enjoyed each one. what other teams do doesnt bother me, so for me its really just '3'. and it has been a pretty f***ing amazing 3 at that.

i find the glee with which supporters throw premiership numbers about (especially on here) more than a touch bizarre... the personal pride and satisfaction some posters take in success that they either didnt see or merely watched is just so strange to me.

its way more important to me that i got to personally experience and watch our (arguably) most successful era ever, than exactly where or how it ranks or how many the club has totalled.

geelong could have 28 VFL/AFL premierships since 1897, and the only ones that would mean a thing to me would be the ones i watched. and i would never feel the need to throw that number at any other supporter, cause all any of us really do is watch.

the fact i support a team sitting on 9 premierships does not make me more/less entitled to an opinion, or a better/lesser person (which some on here kind of seem to think), than supporters of a team sitting on 1 or 17.

The only teams worthy of consideration in the modern era are us and Hawthorn. Not just on ability, but because there is a giant asterisk over Brisbane Lions due to the merger and other incentives, and Sydney have a 10% salary cap advantage, coupled with being the AFL darlings (how Barry Hall eve got to play in the 2005 GF is beyond me). If, as is most likely, Swans take it out this year, then one would have to take a jaundiced eye to it with their ability to fit Tippet, Goodes, Franklin and an elite list under an already unfair salary cap.

 

[Vdubs]

I can only feel for those fans of Melbourne (1964), St. Kilda (1966), Footscray (1950's), still (patiently?) waiting for just one flag.
How fortunate are we to have witnessed 3 premierships in such a short time.
We are a great value team to support, any more than that is icing on the cake, and I'm not sure how healthy sugar is?

 

[BotsMaster]

Simple. We win this year. 4 from 8.

Game over.

Get it done fellas and make our lives just delicious…

Go Catters

Why are you not our coach!?!

 

[you pick one]

Why are you not our coach!?!

Didn't want to take the decrease in salary is the word on the street.

 

[Todman]

some stats you would enjoy.

Counting back from 2013 (Home and Away only)
2004-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 163 wins 74%
Collingwood 134 wins 61%
St Kilda 132 wins 60%
Sydney 130 wins 59%
Hawthorn 123 wins 56%

1999-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 212 wins 64%
Sydney 186 wins 56%
Collingwood 184 wins 55%
Hawthorn 181 wins 55%

1994-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 273 wins 62%
North 242 wins 55%
Sydney 240 wins 55%
Collingwood 230 wins 52%
Hawthorn 228 wins 52%

1990-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 330 wins 63%
WCE 298 wins 56%
Essendon 290 wins 55%
Collingwood 285 wins 54%
Hawthorn 285 wins 54%
Sydney 256 wins 48%

Hawthorn finally catches Geelong in 1983 win 405 wins out 680 games apeice
Geelong regains the lead for 1979 only and from then on Hawthorn leads until Collingwood takes over in 1953


Since 1950 (H&A only)

Collingwood 779 win 58.5%
Geelong 770 wins 58%
Essendon 766 wins 57.6%
Carlton 759 wins at 57%
Hawthorn 745 wins 56%
North 656 wins 49%
Richmond 613 wins 46%
Bulldogs 598 wins 45%
St kilda 579 wins 43%
Melbourne 575 wins 43%
Sydney 565 wins 42%
Fitzroy 367 wins 38%

*note the % gap between Hawthorn and North.

 

[Shai]

some stats you would enjoy.

Counting back from 2013 (Home and Away only)
2004-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 163 wins 74%
Collingwood 134 wins 61%
St Kilda 132 wins 60%
Sydney 130 wins 59%
Hawthorn 123 wins 56%

1999-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 212 wins 64%
Sydney 186 wins 56%
Collingwood 184 wins 55%
Hawthorn 181 wins 55%

1994-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 273 wins 62%
North 242 wins 55%
Sydney 240 wins 55%
Collingwood 230 wins 52%
Hawthorn 228 wins 52%

1990-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 330 wins 63%
WCE 298 wins 56%
Essendon 290 wins 55%
Collingwood 285 wins 54%
Hawthorn 285 wins 54%
Sydney 256 wins 48%

Hawthorn finally catches Geelong in 1983 win 405 wins out 680 games apeice
Geelong regains the lead for 1979 only and from then on Hawthorn leads until Collingwood takes over in 1953


Since 1950 (H&A only)

Collingwood 779 win 58.5%
Geelong 770 wins 58%
Essendon 766 wins 57.6%
Carlton 759 wins at 57%
Hawthorn 745 wins 56%
North 656 wins 49%
Richmond 613 wins 46%
Bulldogs 598 wins 45%
St kilda 579 wins 43%
Melbourne 575 wins 43%
Sydney 565 wins 42%
Fitzroy 367 wins 38%

*note the % gap between Hawthorn and North.

Todman, I believe the thread you should b posting in is the 'rumor' that Cook will b the next VRC CEO..

 

[Claude Balls]

Sydney or Hawthorn winning the flag this year would not elevate them above Geelong. Apart from the overall winning percentage thing, neither the Hawks or Swans could fairly lay claim to winning all of said flags with the same team. Geelong 2007-2011 was very much the same team. Something like 14 or 15 common players. Hawthorn would be lucky to have 8 or 9 common players between flags 1 and 3, and Sydney 4 or 5!

Now don't ask me to back these numbers up, because I can't, and won't.

 

[Munich]

Now don't ask me to back these numbers up, because I can't, and won't.

haha.

Claude was the name of my favourite cat, we should have added the balls though. Sounds so much better.

 

[Todman]

Sydney or Hawthorn winning the flag this year would not elevate them above Geelong. Apart from the overall winning percentage thing, neither the Hawks or Swans could fairly lay claim to winning all of said flags with the same team. Geelong 2007-2011 was very much the same team. Something like 14 or 15 common players. Hawthorn would be lucky to have 8 or 9 common players between flags 1 and 3, and Sydney 4 or 5!

Now don't ask me to back these numbers up, because I can't, and won't.

Geelong had 12
Captain (2011): 45. Ling· · 3. Bartel· · 4. Mackie· · 6. Ottens· · 9. Kelly· · 11. Corey· · 14. Selwood· · 20. Johnson· · 30. Scarlett· · 35. Chapman· · 40. Wojcinski· · 44. Enright ·
Hawthorn had 9
Hodge· · 2. Roughead· · 3. Lewis· · 5. Mitchell· · 6 · 12. Sewell· · 14. Birchall· ·· 18. Guerra· · 23. Franklin· · 33. Rioli·
Sydney had 4
5. O'Keefe· · 24. J. Bolton· 30. Roberts-Thomson· · 37. Goodes·

 

[kickazz]

i dont think there is any need for making it a contest... i have enjoyed each and every season in different ways since 2005, especially the years we won. ill continue to enjoy watching the team, even if hawthorn, sydney or someone else entirely wins the next 5 straight.

i would say just enjoy the ride, and ignore the temptation to worry about where we rank subjectively to the 'football community' or general public.

This sums it up perfectly for me. Well said.

Future generations may well look back and be impressed by the stats, as they should be, but I will always see it as a "you had to be there" scenario.This decade had just been a fantastic ride. After the turgidness that had crept into the game mid noughties, the Geelong machine seemed to explode out of nowhere.

So yeah, the stats might point to being "Geelong, The Greatest Team Of All"; but "We Play The Game As It Should Be Played" will always be the line that rings most true for me when I look back on the decade just passed.

 

[Willo_]

some stats you would enjoy.

Counting back from 2013 (Home and Away only)
2004-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 163 wins 74%
Collingwood 134 wins 61%
St Kilda 132 wins 60%
Sydney 130 wins 59%
Hawthorn 123 wins 56%

1999-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 212 wins 64%
Sydney 186 wins 56%
Collingwood 184 wins 55%
Hawthorn 181 wins 55%

1994-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 273 wins 62%
North 242 wins 55%
Sydney 240 wins 55%
Collingwood 230 wins 52%
Hawthorn 228 wins 52%

1990-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 330 wins 63%
WCE 298 wins 56%
Essendon 290 wins 55%
Collingwood 285 wins 54%
Hawthorn 285 wins 54%
Sydney 256 wins 48%

Hawthorn finally catches Geelong in 1983 win 405 wins out 680 games apeice
Geelong regains the lead for 1979 only and from then on Hawthorn leads until Collingwood takes over in 1953


Since 1950 (H&A only)

Collingwood 779 win 58.5%
Geelong 770 wins 58%
Essendon 766 wins 57.6%
Carlton 759 wins at 57%
Hawthorn 745 wins 56%
North 656 wins 49%
Richmond 613 wins 46%
Bulldogs 598 wins 45%
St kilda 579 wins 43%
Melbourne 575 wins 43%
Sydney 565 wins 42%
Fitzroy 367 wins 38%

*note the % gap between Hawthorn and North.

Some pretty remarkable figures there. Obviously our current run would heavily influence the figures but basically almost since I was born in 83 until now we have the highest winning %....
Remarkable

 

[Jagshemash]

I can only feel for those fans of Melbourne (1964), St. Kilda (1966), Footscray (1950's), still (patiently?) waiting for just one flag.
How fortunate are we to have witnessed 3 premierships in such a short time.
We are a great value team to support, any more than that is icing on the cake, and I'm not sure how healthy sugar is?

This is true, and I agree with you completely and appreciate our success, but you have to make the most of your window while it's open. The fact those clubs have waited so long (even us for 44 years) only highlights that no amount of sugar is sweet enough, because you don't know when the cake will come around again.

 

[Munich]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty sick of hearing opposition supporters bang on about the expansion clubs being the reason for our continued success.

Tall poppy is alive and well.

 

[Sttew]

some stats you would enjoy.

Counting back from 2013 (Home and Away only)
2004-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 163 wins 74%
Collingwood 134 wins 61%
St Kilda 132 wins 60%
Sydney 130 wins 59%
Hawthorn 123 wins 56%

1999-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 212 wins 64%
Sydney 186 wins 56%
Collingwood 184 wins 55%
Hawthorn 181 wins 55%

1994-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 273 wins 62%
North 242 wins 55%
Sydney 240 wins 55%
Collingwood 230 wins 52%
Hawthorn 228 wins 52%

1990-2013 wins and % wins per game
Geelong 330 wins 63%
WCE 298 wins 56%
Essendon 290 wins 55%
Collingwood 285 wins 54%
Hawthorn 285 wins 54%
Sydney 256 wins 48%

Hawthorn finally catches Geelong in 1983 win 405 wins out 680 games apeice
Geelong regains the lead for 1979 only and from then on Hawthorn leads until Collingwood takes over in 1953


Since 1950 (H&A only)

Collingwood 779 win 58.5%
Geelong 770 wins 58%
Essendon 766 wins 57.6%
Carlton 759 wins at 57%
Hawthorn 745 wins 56%
North 656 wins 49%
Richmond 613 wins 46%
Bulldogs 598 wins 45%
St kilda 579 wins 43%
Melbourne 575 wins 43%
Sydney 565 wins 42%
Fitzroy 367 wins 38%

*note the % gap between Hawthorn and North.

Great work by Geelong and Todman. Give the man an honary Geelong BF membership

 

[Shai]

Todman, I believe the thread you should b posting in is the 'rumor' that Cook will b the next VRC CEO..

Ok, obviously none of you are racing fans so I'll explain that I wasn't actually having a go Todman for posting here, Todman happens to b a member of 1 of Australia's most successful thoroughbred families..

 

[Todman]

Ok, obviously none of you are racing fans so I'll explain that I wasn't actually having a go Todman for posting here, Todman happens to b a member of 1 of Australia's most successful thoroughbred families..

Todman was named after Todman Avenue in Kensington. It mets the Randwick racecourse at the home straight.. The avenue was named after George Todman sub-divided his land holding there. George was a very wealth man who made his money from tobacco.

As for the horse, Keith Miller thought it was the greatest horse ever, although Tulloch had a better record.

 

[Pollywaffle]

How do we go purely on ladder position versus our 'challengers'? for this accolade during that period?
This will probably how history will ultimately view these things along with premierships I guess.
( I cant be bothered checking, sorry)

 

[Teriyakicat]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty sick of hearing opposition supporters bang on about the expansion clubs being the reason for our continued success.

Tall poppy is alive and well.

Why would that be a reason? It's not like we get two free hits against the GCFC/GWS every year -like Adelaide did a couple of years ago and Sydney get each year.

Tell them to stop smoking that whacky weed and open their eyes!!

 

[romeoh]

Don't care what any stats say. None of the Lions, Hawks, Sydney team in this era, would have come close to beating Geelong in the 2007 GF. Best team, best performance I have seen.