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Thinking about the roster next year and it's gonna be real interesting what happens. I can see a scenario where Gutey risks it all for 2 more cracks at the SB here with Rodgers. If he extends and takes a bit of a paycut, we backend a really nice Tae deal, extend Jaire, cut the Smiths, cut and re-sign Cobb or restructure plus restructure Bakh and Clark, there is a case to be made that we could be still really competitive. That scenario probably wouldn't include keeping all of the following FAs off the top of my head, but we could keep some : Douglas, Campbell, Lazard, Tonyan, Valdes-Scantling. The cap is supposed to explode in 2023 I believe due to the new TV deal? So we could technically kick the can further.

I piss myself laughing on twitter because all the packers nuffies got shitty at people who would say they weren't happy with Love's performances this year and he looked sh*t, that Rodgers was the same etc. And that's fine, Love may improve dramatically. But he has looked absolutely ******* disgustingly shithouse so far when he has played, there is no arguments about it to me. I would love for him to become a hall of Famer, but currently, I don't see it. I'm assuming if Rodgers leaves, Tae goes too, so that would leave us plenty of money to probably keep all our other FAs with simple restructures and a few cuts. Crosby and Lewis are both contracted for next year no?

In both your replies I agree whole heartedly. I also believe rodgers and adams is either both stay or both go. And GB are stupid to just bring one back. Absolute waste of a year roster wise and all those hidden gems (Douglass + campbell). Proved for nothing as now it’ll be hard to keep them. ****, I’m so shattered. Thought this year was so different. And your correct again, one more touchdown would of broken San Fran tonight .
 
You cant lose in the NFC Champ game if you don't make the NFC champ game

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****ing spat my drink out reading this all over my phone you bastard Shermy. :tearsofjoy:
 

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I’m so shattered. Thought this year was so different. And your correct again, one more touchdown would of broken San Fran tonight .
This is me man. Kept believing just get down the field one more time and they probably can’t score quick enough. SF needed a 13-10 style game and we gave it to them.

I’ve stayed off the net where it pertains to NFL today and probably will now for a bit. Certainly need time to digest this. This roster seemed primed to win a super bowl and I think if we play this match 10 times we win 8 of them :( ugh.
 
It was a fun ride guys. Sucks it didn’t work out.

Shame that we couldn’t manage to pick one of those passes in the flat from Jimmy off, he wanted to give it to us so bad. Stokes should’ve played the ball. Oh well.
I read somewhere earlier that Georgia DBs have always been taught to play the man and not the ball. It’s likely something that is still ingrained. It’s probably the one thing holding him back from becoming an elite CB already because he is always in great positions. Still a rookie so plenty of time to work it out but fk me a pick 6 would’ve been beautiful today.
 
I read somewhere earlier that Georgia DBs have always been taught to play the man and not the ball. It’s likely something that is still ingrained. It’s probably the one thing holding him back from becoming an elite CB already because he is always in great positions. Still a rookie so plenty of time to work it out but fk me a pick 6 would’ve been beautiful today.
So many chances today too - I was explaining to my wife how most of those tackles as the receiver caught the ball could (and sometimes should) have been picked for six
 
And here I was telling my mates there was room for more ring. Really thought I was adding one this year :'(:'(:'(:'(
 

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Yeah that last throw by Rodgers is so so bad. I can't defend that at all and I won't. What the ****. That should've been the game there and then. Hero ball. Sigh.

I've seen a few people taking victory laps saying that they knew the Packers weren't this good all year long etc, I don't really think that yesterdays game proved that apart from the result.

Honestly lost sleep over this lol. Cannot stop thinking about the disappointment of this.
 

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Yeah, trust me I have taken it harder than 'oh well', just something I wrote. I'm not sure what we have proven to be honest. That'll take me a few days to work out. Part of me just thinks that it proves how important all three phases are, we finally are a decent enough D, then the O and ST play sh*t. I dunno. I don't think we proved anything. We just lost. It's a game of plays and inches. It was one of the weirder games I've ever watched. I was so comfortable in the first half because if we scored a second TD we would've won easily, but we never did. We were incompetent on offense. Threw I think two passes to WRs not named Davante, what the fu** is that? Why go against everything that has gotten you to the dance. We're at our best when it's getting shared around.

Lewis, man that guy holds it like a loaf of bread sometimes after he catches it. That'll be his last big play in the league too, a real sad ending tbh. We score 3 there and we probably never look back. We were ******* all over them.

It's just so hard. That's all it is. It's so hard for us. LaFleur has really disappointed me. His play calling in big or tight games has been sus but the ******* conservatism today after we kept getting stop after stop was embarrassing. Plus the public reply all year of 'oh yeah we want ST to be better but yeah', I would hope surely they were trying a lot harder on it behind the scenes but it's not a good look. You look at what's happened now, which we have been worried about since Week 3 @SF and would surely have to think 'jeez, even if we got a new ST coach mid year it might've looked different now'.

I'm just embarrassed. The public perception of this really great team will just forever be forgotten. The fans who watched week to week will remember this 3 year run but we have nothing to show for it.

I'm now at that stage of the day where I'm re-living different plays from the game through my head, thinking if this went that way etc we probably would've won. We should have easily won this and that's almost the worst part, it has shades of 2014 NFC Champ. People on twitter suggesting this wasn't that bad, the thing that made this so bad is it felt like this was gonna be the one, an easy run to the SB at home and it's the last dance. It doesn't work out that way though does it.

I don't hear a lot of pointing the finger at Rodgers from most talking heads or the "experts" on twitter. I would say this loss was not on the special teams (although they were diabolical). You CANNOT score only 10 points and expect to win 90% of the games in the NFL. This ain't 1982. Look at what Stafford did in the last drive. Look at what Mahomes did at the end of the game. Look at what Brady did by bringing the Bucs back from 27-3. Rodgers and the offense had 7 three and outs in the second half. Garbage. Your stars need to step up in the playoffs and they did not. Nor last year. Or the year before.

Our defense was great. The special teams garbage, but I put this loss on the offense 100%, with Rodgers taking a vast majority of that and LaFleur right behind him.

I don't know if we trade Rodgers, keep Devonte, or blow it up, but we are $38 million over the cap (or something really crazy high). Packers have been a VERY sound financial team since Ron Wolf stepped into town. Gude has mortgaged the future by pushing out money into the future and now the train is barreling down the tracks with its horn blowing. I actually don't mind that he did this since now is the time to win. But, sadly, it didn't work. This is going to be a shit offseason for the Packers.

Personally, I say trade Rodgers for as many first round draft picks as you can and let's start a new era. I'm ready to move on. #GoPackGo
 
I don't hear a lot of pointing the finger at Rodgers from most talking heads or the "experts" on twitter. I would say this loss was not on the special teams (although they were diabolical). You CANNOT score only 10 points and expect to win 90% of the games in the NFL. This ain't 1982. Look at what Stafford did in the last drive. Look at what Mahomes did at the end of the game. Look at what Brady did by bringing the Bucs back from 27-3. Rodgers and the offense had 7 three and outs in the second half. Garbage. Your stars need to step up in the playoffs and they did not. Nor last year. Or the year before.

Our defense was great. The special teams garbage, but I put this loss on the offense 100%, with Rodgers taking a vast majority of that and LaFleur right behind him.

I don't know if we trade Rodgers, keep Devonte, or blow it up, but we are $38 million over the cap (or something really crazy high). Packers have been a VERY sound financial team since Ron Wolf stepped into town. Gude has mortgaged the future by pushing out money into the future and now the train is barreling down the tracks with its horn blowing. I actually don't mind that he did this since now is the time to win. But, sadly, it didn't work. This is going to be a sh*t offseason for the Packers.

Personally, I say trade Rodgers for as many first round draft picks as you can and let's start a new era. I'm ready to move on. #GoPackGo

This sounds far too emotional.

This loss was on the special teams not Rodgers.

Sometimes in the NFL you just have games that are dour defensive battles. Shit - even the superbowl 3 years ago (tipped to be one of the highest) ended with Brady winning the game 13-3 with 229 passing yds, no touchdowns and 1 interceptions in a game which they won with only one offensive touchdown.

This game was a defensive battle. Both teams struggled to get into offensive rhythm. In a low scoring game where your special teams unit gets a 39 yd field goal blocked and has a punt blocked for a td I am not sure how you can blame anything but that unit.
 
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This sounds far too emotional.

This loss was on the special teams not Rodgers.

Sometimes in the NFL you just have games that are dour defensive battles. sh*t - even the superbowl 3 years ago (tipped to be one of the highest) ended with Brady winning the game 13-3 with 229 passing yds, no touchdowns and 1 interceptions in a game which they won with only one offensive touchdown.

This game was a defensive battle. Both teams struggled to get into offensive rhythm. In a low scoring game where your special teams unit gets a 39 yd field goal blocked and has a punt blocked for a td I am not sure how you can blame anything but that unit.

Ok, that's a take. Do you think Rodgers played well enough to win? We've seen this before. Rodgers tries to be the hero and do it all.


PFF blames Rodgers for three of the five sacks.

A quote from Rodgers himself, "“Yeah, a lot. I didn’t have a great night tonight,” Rodgers said. “They did a good job of getting me off the spot, and better job of taking away some of the quick game we had going the last time we played them. Definitely disappointed in some of the decisions I had tonight. I definitely take my fair share of blame tonight,” Rodgers said.” Rodgers said he missed a few reads and throws and should have been more aggressive attacking the sideline against some Cover-2 look.

I said in my post, "You CANNOT score only 10 points and expect to win 90% of the games in the NFL" Loks like Rodgers agrees with me. “You score 10 points, you’re not going to win many of those games,” Rodgers said.


So, AFC, just because I don't blame the special teams for the loss doesn't make it an "emotional" take. Our offensive stars didn't play well. That's why we lost. I guess you'll just have to take Rodgers word on that.
 
Ok, that's a take. Do you think Rodgers played well enough to win? We've seen this before. Rodgers tries to be the hero and do it all.


PFF blames Rodgers for three of the five sacks.

A quote from Rodgers himself, "“Yeah, a lot. I didn’t have a great night tonight,” Rodgers said. “They did a good job of getting me off the spot, and better job of taking away some of the quick game we had going the last time we played them. Definitely disappointed in some of the decisions I had tonight. I definitely take my fair share of blame tonight,” Rodgers said.” Rodgers said he missed a few reads and throws and should have been more aggressive attacking the sideline against some Cover-2 look.

I said in my post, "You CANNOT score only 10 points and expect to win 90% of the games in the NFL" Loks like Rodgers agrees with me. “You score 10 points, you’re not going to win many of those games,” Rodgers said.


So, AFC, just because I don't blame the special teams for the loss doesn't make it an "emotional" take. Our offensive stars didn't play well. That's why we lost. I guess you'll just have to take Rodgers word on that.

In the context of the game - yes Rodgers played well enough to win. Without the two special teams blunders we win that game end of story.

Of course he could have played better and he made some errors. By no stretch was it a great game by him, but his press conference means nothing. He is a great leader - he ain't coming out and publicly placing the blame on his team mates.

The conditions and game weren't conducive to a shootout.

Your take is still very emotive, but that's okay.
 
With the packers the year they won it in 2010/11 all there playoffs were away from home.

Everyone thinks playing in Wisconsin in January where its snowing would be a massive home ground advantage.

But stats prove it actually probably brings the opposition into it and probably takes rodgers out of the game. They are 5-4 since that superbowl with home playoffs.

With only one of those 5 wins not in the wildcard round.

Green Bay fans would know more then me but curious to know do others think its actually a disadvantage playing at home in January.
 
With the packers the year they won it in 2010/11 all there playoffs were away from home.

Everyone thinks playing in Wisconsin in January where its snowing would be a massive home ground advantage.

But stats prove it actually probably brings the opposition into it and probably takes rodgers out of the game. They are 5-4 since that superbowl with home playoffs.

With only one of those 5 wins not in the wildcard round.

Green Bay fans would know more then me but curious to know do others think its actually a disadvantage playing at home in January.
It's why we've been crying out for a run game this last decade and why Eddie Lacy's final season with us was such a disappointment.

For some reason we shelve the run in playoffs, limiting the effectiveness of play-action and failing to wear down the opposition defense.

Persisting with a West Coast offense to win a Championship game in the Wisconsin winter is bonkers.
 
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In the context of the game - yes Rodgers played well enough to win. Without the two special teams blunders we win that game end of story.

Of course he could have played better and he made some errors. By no stretch was it a great game by him, but his press conference means nothing. He is a great leader - he ain't coming out and publicly placing the blame on his team mates.

The conditions and game weren't conducive to a shootout.

Your take is still very emotive, but that's okay.

Don't listen to the quarterback when he says he didn't play well? uh, ok. When he plays well but they rest of the team doesn't, he's very different in press conferences. QB is the most important position, therefore, when they play average, they get the blame. I guess you and me, the QB, the coach, and other journalists (see below) will have to agree to disagree that Rodgers isn't the one who should take a majority of the blame. We're just an emotional mess, I guess. Sadly, we don't have the sharp analyst skills you do so we have to make up for it with wild, ranting posts attacking the first thing we see though quotes and stats and article citations.




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Don't listen to the quarterback when he says he didn't play well? uh, ok. When he plays well but they rest of the team doesn't, he's very different in press conferences. QB is the most important position, therefore, when they play average, they get the blame. I guess you and me, the QB, the coach, and other journalists (see below) will have to agree to disagree that Rodgers isn't the one who should take a majority of the blame. We're just an emotional mess, I guess. Sadly, we don't have the sharp analyst skills you do so we have to make up for it with wild, ranting posts attacking the first thing we see though quotes and stats and article citations.




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Just like you - the media and their "hot takes" are hysterical.

But I digress, this is a fun game. I might play. Here are the articles blaming our coach for the loss. And what a surprise the head coach puts the loss on himself (just like Rodgers).




Here are some articles putting the loss squarely on the special teams:




The fact remains. Rodgers didn't have a great game by his lofty standards, but he still put his team in a position to win the game. He didn't turn the ball over. Sure he could have done some things better. But as QB he put the offense in a position to score 13 points.

Now on the other hand - Specials teams actively lost the game. They messed up a field goal -3 and had a punt blocked and returned for a td -7. Thats a 10 point swing which in the context of a game that has 23 points total.

Our special teams have been an issue all bloody year. They are the #1 reason we lost this game. There is no denying it.
 

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