Lowey
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the quadry being why he was selected to play against India. Compare the two's career stats. You'll see why Bing is always in the selectors thoughts. A proven strike bowler.
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Lee bowls quick but sometimes lacks the control to manage it.
Bichel tends to bowl more line and length and therefore do the hard yards
Bichel tends to bowl more line and length and therefore do the hard yards
Lowey
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and you have the hide to comment on cricket related issues? again ignoring the fact that he is in the best 6 first class batsmen in the country. Living in the past and vouching on performances 7-8 years ago does nothing but shatter your own credibility. A bit of research on Matthew Hayden wouldnt go astray either.
Lowey
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stats didnt suit your argument huh?
Here's a stat..best one-day figures
Lee 5/29
Bichel 7/20
Know who I'd rather in a one day game
Lee 5/29
Bichel 7/20
Know who I'd rather in a one day game
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Fall Out Boy
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Explain how Ian Harvey's selection was "baffling". Bear in mind this is the Ian Harvey who has averaged about 23 with the ball in the past 7-8 months.
Lowey
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World cup ring any bells? ditto for Symonds.
Lowey
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and as we all know, Graham Gooch (333) was twice the batsman that Viv Richards was, and Jim Laker is the worlds best bowler of all time.
Andrew Symonds
Ian Harvey
Andrew Bichel
Brad Williams
Damien Martyn
Brad Hogg
Michael Kasprowicz
Jimmy Maher
I honestly dont see anything strange about these players predicaments. The only one would be Martyn, who is on the edge and this has been acknowledged by the selectors.
Bracken in the Test team, on the other hand, was an out and out pro-NSW decision if Ive ever seen one.
Lowey, are you actually denying a NSW bias over the years?
Ian Harvey
Andrew Bichel
Brad Williams
Damien Martyn
Brad Hogg
Michael Kasprowicz
Jimmy Maher
I honestly dont see anything strange about these players predicaments. The only one would be Martyn, who is on the edge and this has been acknowledged by the selectors.
Bracken in the Test team, on the other hand, was an out and out pro-NSW decision if Ive ever seen one.
Lowey, are you actually denying a NSW bias over the years?
Lowey
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I just think, much like how you remember every time you get a red light and forget about all the green ones, or you remember every dodgy decision but forget about the close LBW's that went your way, NSW selections stand out.
Ian Harvey and Andrew Symonds are amongst the most bizzare selections for the world cup i've ever witnessed following the game. I think for every NSW selection that you might be thinking is not warranted, there are normally at least 3 or 4 others from other states too. I'm not even championing the idea that Michael Clarke should be in the test squad yet either, but that would not be regarded as a NSW bias either because he is obviously a star talent. I mean i'd have much more of a case pushing his selection than Cameron White's, yet i still hear that as being an anti Vic thing.
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Fall Out Boy
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Get serious, your initial statement about baffling selections was a massive exaggeration, so in order to safe face, you created list you know is ludicrous.
Admit it
Lowey
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perhaps you could tell me what Symonds did prior to the tournament to justify his place?
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Fall Out Boy
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When did i say Symonds deserved selection, hell when did i ever mention Symonds?
I'm on record at the time as saying he didn't deserve selection.
I think you'll find that its people from all states who feel a bias exists, while the only people who think otherwise are NSWelshmen themselves. Coincidence? What on earth could have got so many people thinking the same thing?
And Harvey & Symonds. Who else would you have picked as an all-rounder?
Lowey
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allrounders should not be selected for the sake of it, thats the point. Our side was weakened in the VB series against England continually for their inclusion. Sometimes Ponting wouldnt give Symonds the ball, so effectively he was taking a batting spot. As Ian Chappell said, an allrounder is one who can hold their place with either the bat or the ball alone or both, not be substandard at each of them but make the side just coz they do bowl as well.
and like most things, people love hating a winner, and NSW has that in streams.
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Fall Out Boy
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If you can name me two far more deserving all-rounders at the time, then you may have an argument, otherwise.............
Lowey
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or the token Victorian selection.
Lowey
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the reason we need an allrounder? we are not bloody south africa.
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Fall Out Boy
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You may have a decent argument, however it's surplus to the current discussion.
The fact is that they are always going to select all-rounders, and there were none more deserving than Ian Harvey.
They wanted an all-rounder and chose the best one we had, i fail to see how that is a baffling selection.
Your "point" merely shows that you consider their selection policies baffling, nothing more.
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Fall Out Boy
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Again, that is entirely irrelevant to the discussion.
We are talking about baffling selections, not baffling selection policies.
Lowey
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good of you to at least acknowledge that, but again the fact is, that would be considered very pro NSW if it was us who had the allrounder.
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Fall Out Boy
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Yep, been plenty of them over time.
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Fall Out Boy
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Why is it that whenever someone raises a salient point that contradicts your view, you tend to change the subject?
Your cricket knowledge is great, but at least answer the points raised, as others have done with you.
Again, your "point" is valid, but is misdirected. We are discussing baffling player selections, not baffling selection policies.
The selection of all-rounders as a matter of course, may be baffling, however the selection of Ian Harvey as THAT all-rounder is anything but.
Lowey
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you are twisting it on a mere technicality. People here are saying the selectors favour NSW players. They clearly didnt when formulating that strategy. Again a non NSW player is selected in the side when he shouldnt have been, and that is the theme of the thread.
