Society/Culture Haha disregard that, Internet Explorer sucks

[MrCharisma]

It's weird and creepy that this PopTech dude "pops" out of nowhere as soon as he is mentioned. Was there a link to his site or what?

Yes, it's very weird to have a yank astroturfer post on an AFL forum. And I'm not being facetious.

As well as the the anti global warming/marijuana astrotufing, he used to have some anti firefox webpage called firefox myths, where he used the same tactics:

"Andrew of populartechnology.net is Andrew K of Optimize Guides.
His pages were all anti-Firefox, anti-open-source software and anti-Linux.
I was involved with many arguments with him, partly because I thought his post were motivated by a political bias rather than an objective assessment of the merits of open source software, but mostly because I was angry with his use of sock puppets to basically spam his pages without admitting authorship and to post comments in support of himself."http://ipka.wordpress.com/2011/05/1...et-by-andrew-khan/?relatedposts_exclude=10756

"Rather than a balanced analysis of some of the folklore surrounding Firefox, it is merely a stream of weak arguments against imaginary “myths” supported by misquoting or deliberate misreading of sources.
I’m not even going to reference the page. If you really want to find it, I’m sure you can. It’s by someone called Andrew K on a site that seems to have a lot of other stuff about Windows 2000 and XP." http://archive.is/TWUS2

This from Asa Dotzler's blog ( Firefox developer):
Some scumbag over at a site calling itself Firefox Myths has quoted me as saying that his site is "good stuff." Well he's simply lying.Don't give that jerk any more traffic, this is just to let those of you who may have already seen the quote know that it wasn't his site that I was complimenting. As a matter of fact, what I was calling "good stuff" was a post that trashed him and his bogus claims. Oh, he calls himself Andrew K and apparently uses other names to troll the blogs in support of his bullshit."http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2006/01/scum.html

This is a very small slice of the pie, the shit on this guy is endless. This isn't the behaviour of some guy posting his opinions on a forum in his spare time. His motivations for posting on this site should be questioned by everyone here, regardless of what side of this debate you're on.

 

[clogged]

War on Firefox, heh. I'm not sure we want to follow this guy down the autism spectrum rabbit hole.

Funny though if he is a paid sock puppet. Microsoft have been known to use this tactic against competitors. Although they (as a company) are flailing towards irrelevancy and oblivion now.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Bigfooty sleuths once again owning bitches!

And this is on the SRP board, imagine this clown if this was the mainboard.

 

[Poptech]

Yes, it's very weird to have a yank astroturfer post on an AFL forum. And I'm not being facetious.

As well as the the anti global warming/marijuana astrotufing, he used to have some anti firefox webpage called firefox myths, where he used the same tactics:

More like, I wrote, "Firefox - A New Religion?" and got rampantly spammed by Firefox fanatics who tried to get my website taken offline. Lunatic Firefox fanatics could not handle having their lies debunked so they became unhinged much like AGW alarmists.

It is a lie that I use sock-puppets, as I always use Poptech / Andrew or some obvious variation of it (depending on what is available). This can be confirmed by searching the Internet. The last thing I am is afraid to post anywhere. It is another lie that I am "anti-open source", as I flat out recommend using Apache Open Office among other open-source software. My problem with Linux was it's undeserved hype as a desktop OS not it's use as a server and mobile OS (Android), also with various security myths that were frequently perpetuated.

You are right about one thing, the "shit" on me is endless but in the context of it is literally shit. People like you can't debate me so you post whatever lies and smears you find using your limited ability with search engines. It is sad really but at least it confirms I won the argument.

 

[clogged]

More like, I wrote, "Firefox - A New Religion?" and got rampantly spammed by Firefox fanatics who tried to get my website taken offline. Lunatic Firefox fanatics could not handle having their lies debunked so they became unhinged much like AGW alarmists.

Well, half the shit you wrote there is from the "who gives a shit?" school of legacy tech.

Eg.

Firefox is not 100% Internet Explorer and ActiveX compatible.

ActiveX? Umm, how long was that important after AJAX started being used? It was effectively a dead technology as soon as Google released Gmail. Does any browser use it now?

As dumb an argument as saying the iPhone won't succeed because it doesn't support flash. No wonder the Firefox fanatics blew you out of the water. You're a clown.

 

[Poptech]

War on Firefox, heh. I'm not sure we want to follow this guy down the autism spectrum rabbit hole.

There was no "war on Firefox", just a debunking of myths. Do you have some bizarre fixation with autistic people that you keep making this insane reference?

Funny though if he is a paid sock puppet. Microsoft have been known to use this tactic against competitors. Although they (as a company) are flailing towards irrelevancy and oblivion now.

ROFLMAO! I just spit my drink all over my monitor. Yep, lunatic conspiracy theories = 100% drug user (past or present).

 

[clogged]

There was no "war on Firefox", just a debunking of myths. Do you have some bizarre fixation with autistic people that you keep making this insane reference?

Just a wild guess. You're late 30s, live alone, never married right?

ROFLMAO! I just spit my drink all over my monitor. Yep, lunatic conspiracy theories = 100% drug user (past or present).

Firefox doesn't support ActiveX makes it lesser technology and marijuana is additive.

Jesus, dude, you're 0 from 2 on non climate change subjects. How can anyone trust you on this one?

PS monitor? What's it like back there in the 90s? I would have to get so stoned, like probably have to snort a crushed up marijuana pill, to feel like I was back there. Is it CRT?

 

[Poptech]

Well, half the shit you wrote there is from the "who gives a shit?" school of legacy tech.

ROFLMAO! I didn't bring it up MrCharisma did. Where did I say you should care about the content of a nine year old post in relation to today?

ActiveX? Umm, how long was that important after AJAX started being used? It was effectively a dead technology as soon as Google released Gmail. Does any browser use it now?

As dumb an argument as saying the iPhone won't succeed because it doesn't support flash. No wonder the Firefox fanatics blew you out of the water.

You have no remote idea what you are talking about. Gmail (2004) and AJAX had nothing to do with any of this. At the time 10-15% of websites did not support Firefox,

Websites alienate Firefox users (BBC, June 2005)
Web Sites That Don't Work Well With Firefox (Computer Gripes, January 2005)

This continued to be a problem years later,

Hotmail Full Version Incompatible With Firefox 3 (Slashdot, June 2008)

Please don't try arguing topics you have no knowledge of.

 

[clogged]

ROFLMAO! I didn't bring it up MrCharisma did. Where did I say you should care about the content of a nine year old post in relation to today?

You get judged on the calls you make. You said that the lack of ActiveX support was a flaw. How many websites were developed using that technology after 2005? Name them.

You have no remote idea what you are talking about. Gmail (2004) and AJAX had nothing to do with any of this. At the time 10-15% of websites did not support Firefox,

So what? The trend away from Internet Explorer was established. What's the most popular browser in the world today? What browser continued to grow from 2005?

What pattern of web development succeeded after 2005? Proprietary plugins or more open standards? What is used more on the web now? ActiveX and Flash or JavaScript and standardised HTML? Which horse were you backing in that post, and which one was Firefox backing

Hint: it wasn't IE or ActiveX that succeeded.

Please don't try arguing topics you have no knowledge of.

As someone who has worked as a web developer and created websites that look far better than your dated mess, I think I think I have enough knowledge to call you out on your crap.

 

[Poptech]

Just a wild guess. You're late 30s, live alone, never married right?

Completely wrong but you're homosexual and beat your wife?

 

[clogged]

Completely wrong

Ok then, early 40s, live with parents, married to a mail order bride.

 

[blackcat]

Bigfooty sleuths once again owning bitches!

And this is on the SRP board, imagine this clown if this was the mainboard.

thats a romping win innit bloods?

 

[MrCharisma]

Andrew K. has been using computers for over 25 years starting with the TI-99/4A back in 1981. For over 15 years he has been helping people solve their PC problems. Over the years he has held various IT level positions including Helpdesk Support, Technician, Technical Service Manager and OEM Branch Manager which included other duties such as Sales and Marketing. He has an extensive knowledge of DOS,Windows 3.x, 95, 98, ME, 2000 and XP. Being A+ and Dell certified he has supported thousands of clients over the years including end users, educational institutions, governmental organizations and small to medium sized businesses. At last estimate he has taken 15,000+ support calls and worked on and assembled over 5000+ systems. His extensive technical knowledge and personal customer related experience has allowed him to seamlessly transfer his knowledge online in a clear and concise way. Computers are not Andrew K's hobby, they are his job.

He's a helpdesk call centre worker.

I reckon he's older than 40, though.

 

[Poptech]

You get judged on the calls you make. You said that the lack of ActiveX support was a flaw. How many websites were developed using that technology after 2005? Name them.

It was, if you cannot use 10-15% of the websites you go to, it is a problem. Especially when they are things like banks. Are you on drugs?

So what? The trend away from Internet Explorer was established. What's the most popular browser in the world today? What browser continued to grow from 2005?

You are a dumbass, the most popular browser in the world is either Google Chrome, with Internet Explorer in second place beating Firefox.

Stat Counter Global Stats
Web Browser Market Share Trends
Web browsers (Global marketshare)

or Internet Explore is in first place DESTROYING Firefox,

Desktop Browser Market Share

ROFLMAO! Epic embarrassment for the computer illiterate.

What pattern of web development succeeded after 2005? Proprietary plugins or more open standards? What is used more on the web now? ActiveX and Flash or JavaScript and standardised HTML? Which horse were you backing in that post, and which one was Firefox backing

Hint: it wasn't IE or ActiveX that succeeded.

Strawman, I never made any argument relating to any of this and Flash is still used all over the place. What would succeed was never my argument. My argument was what worked at the time. Unlike you I dealt with real people who actually had to get things done like banking and were not interested in ideological battles.

As someone who has worked as a web developer and created websites that look far better than your dated mess, I think I think I have enough knowledge to call you out on your crap.

Apparently not, you don't even have basic knowledge of browser market shares. You are embarrassing yourself in epic fashion.

 

[Poptech]

He's a helpdesk call centre worker.

I reckon he's older than 40, though.

ROFLAMO! You guys are dumber than bricks. You have to stop trying to use Google thinking you found something.

 

[MrCharisma]

Sure

 

[Poptech]

Let me give you guys a hint and save you some time, there is nothing online about me that I don't want online.

 

[Poptech]

Sure

No, you are REALLY, REALLY dumb. We are talking Special Olympics level.

What is my last name?
What University did I attend?

Please embarrass yourself trying to find information that does not exist online. I have had Firefox idiots chasing planted information for years now, you can join them.

 

[MrCharisma]

No, you are REALLY, REALLY dumb. We are talking Special Olympics level.

What is my last name?
What University did I attend?

.

Andrew Kahn.

You didn't attend university, silly.

 

[Poptech]

Andrew Kahn.

You didn't attend university, silly.

I am the puppet master.

 

[MrCharisma]

Keep digging that hole, Andy.

 

[Poptech]

Keep digging that hole, Andy.

You are now my puppet, how does it feel knowing I am manipulating you?

 

[Sydney Bloods]

thats a romping win innit bloods?

Did we lose that thread in the upgrade? I miss that thread.

Canadian barrel racers were fun to.

 

[slicedndiced]

Pretty sure that this Andrew K pillock has a notorious brother living in Ballarat, who is well known as a wrestling promoter, vexatious litigant, server of restraining orders against poor little Suzie Olsen, well advanced on the "spectrum" and most famously recognisable for beating a BF Moderator about the head with a briefcase in real life. ( I kid you not).

They've just gotta be brothers.

 

[clogged]

It was, if you cannot use 10-15% of the websites you go to, it is a problem.

Lordy. You purport to be interested in technology yet completely miss its purpose. So what if they didn't support websites with ActiveX? Do you think anyone cared? Do you think that websites that only rendered in IE stayed that way? Or are all websites these days standards compliant?

Technology progresses and legacy apps get left behind. Why should developers continue to support problematic, proprietary technology. Firefox made the decision not to support ActiveX. It was the right one. None of the non-MS browsers that exist today support that technology. Do you think anyone misses it?

You are a dumbass, the most popular browser in the world is either Google Chrome

Duh. Tell me where I asserted otherwise. When you posted your little diatribe MSIE had 90% desktop market share. Now it has only around 20%. How do you think lack of legacy technology support affected other browsers?

If your career is in technology and you make assertions about supporting legacy tech that quickly demises after your assertions then your entire point of view must be called into question. I can only imagine your highest calling is desktop support, because you have very little imagination beyond that.