List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management 2023

[Simon Crawshay]

I don’t seem to remember him towelling up monster forwards, but if you say he did, I believe you. However (and correct me if I’m wrong), I imagine it appeared to be the case because of his guile, smarts and ability to read the play/ball in flight, rather than one on one strength and blistering speed to keep up with them on the lead?

Yes pretty much as you say it was his ability to read the ball in flight and superior body positioning that did the job.

Also as I said he is surprisingly strong these days as well, he can hold his feet in a contest against some big units.

The more agile and quick power forwards like Cameron probably give him more trouble TBH.

I'm not saying I want him to keep playing that role, we would be much better off as a team if he could play as a free wheeling half back every week.

But it's testament to his ability that he can play that role when required at only 189cm and 90kg.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Blanck only just turned 23. He has some athletic gifts.

There is nothing wrong with being on the look out for another (or better) KPD, but the club would be hopeful that a player just entering his prime years with the athletic gifts he has will be able to improve.

For the balance of our side, an IMPROVED James Blanck is massive in 2024.

Our optimum result for 2024 would be if Blank could develop into a competitive full back and Scrimmers develop into a decent CHB (he has the ability to do this).

Then Sicily could play on the third best tall and you'd have Mitchell/Weddle/CJ as running half backs and Hardwick as small defender.

You are right a lot is rising on Blanks development next year.

 

[Dewnior]

Just OSullivan I understand.

I'm pretty sure I read an article by Twomey, stating that we (along with Eagles) attempted to trade our F1 to Melbourne and Adelaide with the aim of taking Curtain

 

[MasterSamurai]

İt's extremely important that both Blanck and Denver to take the two kpd positions and make it their own, this allows Sicily to roam at will and be even more dangerous. Just need Denver to take that step. That chb position is his if he wants it hard enough.

 

[cryptor]

Jaeger 99 games for hawthorn going to haunt us one day

Pick him up in the MSD for the back half of a season at the end of his career. Never got a farewell game or a proper send off.

 

[Sixpence]

I'm pretty sure I read an article by Twomey, stating that we (along with Eagles) attempted to trade our F1 to Melbourne and Adelaide with the aim of taking Curtain

That could just be Twomey expecting us to take Curtain, when we were really going for O'Sullivan.

 

[Roddy]

İt's extremely important that both Blanck and Denver to take the two kpd positions and make it their own, this allows Sicily to roam at will and be even more dangerous. Just need Denver to take that step. That chb position is his if he wants it hard enough.

I’m pretty sure Blanck’s going to be good, if DGB could step up and be that KPD we need, that would be the ideal situation.

Is he training with the backs?

 

[TylerDurden]

I’m pretty sure Blanck’s going to be good, if DGB could step up and that KPD we need, that would be the ideal situation.

Is he training with the backs?

Correct.
Blanck, DGB and McCabe would set us up nicely.
DGB is the key to the whole set up really.

 

[Roddy]

Correct.
Blanck, DGB and McCabe would set us up nicely.
DGB is the key to the whole set up really.

We must not lose sight of the fact that DGB is 21 and has played a little over one season.

 

[FB19]

The way the game is headed I am not as convinced we need a gorilla KPD. 1 stopper like blanck with Sicily and McCabe in 3 years time and weddle at d4 probably works. DGB or scrimshaw could be the Sicily replacement in that scenario too. That said I wish we got osullivan I think he’s going to be an absolute gun for the cats god damn it.

 

[Roddy]

The way the game is headed I am not as convinced we need a gorilla KPD. 1 stopper like blanck with Sicily and McCabe in 3 years time and weddle at d4 probably works. DGB or scrimshaw could be the Sicily replacement in that scenario too. That said I wish we got osullivan I think he’s going to be an absolute gun for the cats god damn it.

There will always be a case of many teams in the league employing ‘twin towers’ forward lines, PLUS resting their rucks in the forward line. This will never change, so we need to counter that somehow.

 

[Brant]

There will always be a case of many teams in the league employing ‘twin towers’ forward lines, PLUS resting their rucks in the forward line. This will never change, so we need to counter that somehow.

Collingwood didn't even have 1x (competent) KPF in this year's GF, did they?

I'll go check, but I can't even name one on their list (McStay = C Grader at best).

 

[Roddy]

Collingwood didn't even have 1x (competent) KPF in this year's GF, did they?

I'll go check, but I can't even name one on their list (McStay = C Grader at best).

The other Grand Finalist has Joey and Hipwood. Cats still have Tummy and Cameron. Dogs have JUH and Naughton. Blues have Curnow and McKay. I could go on….

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Correct.
Blanck, DGB and McCabe would set us up nicely.
DGB is the key to the whole set up really.

it would be a game-changer if DGB comes on as a KPD. we can completely change our list management priorities.

i also agree teams don't need superstar KPDs to win, a good defensive system and leadership in the backline can make B-grader KPDs very effective. i think you do need at least one top 5% player in every line though, to go along with elite role players and good coaching

 

[QuietB]

Just thinking about the Hawks list going forward and still trying to rationalise the Nick Watson pick.

Day has emerged as a star mid. Newcombe is a star mid. And then hopefully another emerges from the rest (Ward, McKenzie, Nash, Maguiness).

I was concerned that we should be getting a Bont/Petracca/Dusty/Pendlebury with pick 5. A midfield bull. But we didn’t.

Is Josh Weddle that player?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Just thinking about the Hawks list going forward and still trying to rationalise the Nick Watson pick.

Day has emerged as a star mid. Newcombe is a star mid. And then hopefully another emerges from the rest (Ward, McKenzie, Nash, Maguiness).

I was concerned that we should be getting a Bont/Petracca/Dusty/Pendlebury with pick 5. A midfield bull. But we didn’t.

Is Josh Weddle that player?

Do you need to be re-introduced to our Number 3?

 

[TylerDurden]

Just thinking about the Hawks list going forward and still trying to rationalise the Nick Watson pick.

Day has emerged as a star mid. Newcombe is a star mid. And then hopefully another emerges from the rest (Ward, McKenzie, Nash, Maguiness).

I was concerned that we should be getting a Bont/Petracca/Dusty/Pendlebury with pick 5. A midfield bull. But we didn’t.

Is Josh Weddle that player?

Windsor went at 6, then Sanders. Neither are your Dusty type.

We picked the most talented bloke. Was a no brainer.

 

[peetoo]

Just thinking about the Hawks list going forward and still trying to rationalise the Nick Watson pick.

Day has emerged as a star mid. Newcombe is a star mid. And then hopefully another emerges from the rest (Ward, McKenzie, Nash, Maguiness).

I was concerned that we should be getting a Bont/Petracca/Dusty/Pendlebury with pick 5. A midfield bull. But we didn’t.

Is Josh Weddle that player?

Watson a good distributor as well as a finisher

 

[Newmo89]

I’m pretty sure Blanck’s going to be good, if DGB could step up and be that KPD we need, that would be the ideal situation.

Is he training with the backs?

DGB was meant to be training with the forwards, but with the arrival of Gunners and Chol, it was decided to put him down back again. When I spoke to Brett Ratten he said that DGB showed all his great signs as an under 18 player as a back and it gives him the best chance to showcase his best assets again. Also said that there'll be times he will be used up forward too, as there aren't too many quality swingmen in the competition.

 

[Topiary]

I'm pretty sure I read an article by Twomey, stating that we (along with Eagles) attempted to trade our F1 to Melbourne and Adelaide with the aim of taking Curtain

I understand we were only keen on OSullivan. Happy to disagree but it is no longer relevant.

 

[Brant]

The other Grand Finalist has Joey and Hipwood. Cats still have Tummy and Cameron. Dogs have JUH and Naughton. Blues have Curnow and McKay. I could go on….

You could, but it'd be pointless. My point was pretty clear - whilst the most common, it's clearly not essential.

 

[WWSD]

If Grainger-Barras, Serong & McCabe can all make it as key defenders then we’ll have really good key defensive options down back for the next decade.

My one concern about the list right now is the lack of midsize forwards. There’s really no one on the list that can be a 30-40 goal a year half forward. We have good small forward options, but no midsize forwards. Hopefully MM has his sights set on one or two in next year’s trade and FA period.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Just thinking about the Hawks list going forward and still trying to rationalise the Nick Watson pick.

Day has emerged as a star mid. Newcombe is a star mid. And then hopefully another emerges from the rest (Ward, McKenzie, Nash, Maguiness).

I was concerned that we should be getting a Bont/Petracca/Dusty/Pendlebury with pick 5. A midfield bull. But we didn’t.

Is Josh Weddle that player?

Newcombe is that player.

Nobody in the range of our first selection had those attributes.

 

[Dewnior]

I was concerned that we should be getting a Bont/Petracca/Dusty/Pendlebury with pick 5. A midfield bull. But we didn’t.

Is Josh Weddle that player?

We have enough future AA midfield bulls.

 

[Dewnior]

My one concern about the list right now is the lack of midsize forwards. There’s really no one on the list that can be a 30-40 goal a year half forward. We have good small forward options, but no midsize forwards.

Croc and Butler are capable.