Hawthorn FC worst nightmare the 2017 Draft

[Lance Uppercut]

See, that's the thing about dead cat bounces. You take them seriously at your peril

 

[smeltitdeltit]

See, that's the thing about dead cat bounces. You take them seriously at your peril

Bomber win would be a pin cushion bounce?

Or would that be your 2017?

 

[evo]

Dead cats, dead hawks, dead bombers.

good times.

 

[Laverde2Smack]

I’ll be laughing myself all the way to the bank when O’Rourke comes good. You watch

Do you have money on him to win the brownlow or something?

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[Wojcinski]

Dead cats, dead hawks, dead bombers.

good times.

Dead tigers too. Everybody gets a car!

 

[Scotland]

See, that's the thing about dead cat bounces. You take them seriously at your peril

Do the first 4 rounds of 2018 count?

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Bomber win would be a pin cushion bounce?

Or would that be your 2017?

obvious deflection is obvious

 

[threesixpio]

No sh1t...what else do you get on a footy forum!?

It is always hardest being objective with your own team. I struggle with the Pies as always think a young guy will be good, even a guy like Mayne try and justify why he could work.

But without the emotional investment, pretty clear the Pies going nowhere.
It was clear the Saints were in for a world of hurt after 2012.
The Dockers poor second half of 2015 showed signs that the fall of 2016 was coming.

Hawks finish to 2016 gave similar signs, they have continued at the start of 2017.

Fair enough if as a supporter that you stick fat and want to believe...

IMO the cliff has arrived, and the Hawks pulled the wrong strings during the off season which will hurt them even more.

The ladder is interesting at the present time. Did you have a nice evening?

 

[threesixpio]

After many years of flogs with brown & gold avatars spouting off like they had something to do with their team's success, the schadenfreude of this season will keep me happy for a long time.

How long exactly

 

[threesixpio]

The problem with Smith and Breust is that the more they play this year, the more currency they've lost. They've been hopeless. Plus they're on good money at Hawthorn, being in the leadership group and on long deals. Not sure they'd get the same coin and duration elsewhere as they negotiated before this year's catastrophe.

Not sure they could get away with trading out Rioli after trading out the rest of their heart and soul in Mitchell and Lewis last year plus losing Hodge.

That pretty much leaves only Gunston who's probably their most important structure player.

Hawthorn are in terrible, terrible shape and it looks like a long way to the light at the end of the tunnel.

Did that light include extinguishing finals hopes for Essendon in 2018? It was worth the wait

 

[threesixpio]

See, that's the thing about dead cat bounces. You take them seriously at your peril

Boing

 

[WWSD]

OUT
Hodge
Mitchell
Lewis
Gibson
Hill
2016 1st round pick
2016 2nd round pick
2016 3rd round pick
2017 1st round pick
2017 2nd round pick

IN
2016 Harry Morrison - pick 74
2017 James Worpel - pick 45
2018 Finals

 

[threesixpio]

Pick 74 went alright yesterday actually

 

[WWSD]

Hawks don't look like regrouping anytime soon. But at this stage the very first pick they have in the 2017 draft is GWS Second Round pick. I am expecting GWS to finish high in 2017 and their second round to be a pick in late 30's to easily 40's

But the fact is as part of last years plans to bring in Jaegar O'Meara, they had to make trades with a number of teams, one being St Kilda to get Pick 10 which was used to forward to the Suns. In exchange the Hawks gave Saints their 2017 FIRST ROUND pick which the reality is at this very moment Hawks sit last on the ladder and it looking like being Pick 1 in this years draft.
Could St Kilda end up with the Hawks pick 1 this year? Would that give the Hawks coaching staff, recruiters and board members have migraines for the remainder of the year knowing this?

How would St Kilda be feeling right now?

gillo94 I don't know, you tell me.

 

[Baird]

really necessary bump

 

[Xtreme]

really necessary bump

It's bound to go back the other way in due course - swings and round-a-bouts

But for now Hawthorn are back in business

 

[threesixpio]

Hawthorn has not bottom out this year, that will come next year when they loose their veteran players. Possibly wooden spoon contention next year, then start the rebuilding phase.

Enjoy another year of no finals

 

[WWSD]

really necessary bump

Well considering the crap most of the Hawthorn fans had to endure about how they ''sold the farm'' at the end of 2016, it's only necessary that the Hawks fans on here can now dish it right back. Some oppositions fans who were rooting for the Hawks to fail and slip down the ladder went way too early.

O'Meara is having a solid season playing 17 out of 19 games so far. I'm pretty sure Harry Morrison (2016 draft pick 74) and James Worpel (2017 draft pick 45) are doing alright at the moment. With Clarkson at the helm anything is possible.

 

[DERO]

Enjoy another year of no finals

You need to be careful with comments like that when the season is as close as it is. You still have to beat Geelong and Sydney in Sydney. There is also a strong possibility that you could miss out if you drop those games.

 

[threesixpio]

You need to be careful with comments like that when the season is as close as it is. You still have to beat Geelong and Sydney in Sydney. There is also a strong possibility that you could miss out if you drop those games.

Totally could miss finals. Making the point that we aren’t wooden spooners. Far cry from it

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

really necessary bump

That’s what OrA does. Thrives on it.

 

[HeHateMe]

He really is the BOG at calling a spade a spade.

 

[Mr Lizard]

 

[NetworkNerd]

You need to be careful with comments like that when the season is as close as it is. You still have to beat Geelong and Sydney in Sydney. There is also a strong possibility that you could miss out if you drop those games.

Wont start favourites in those 2 games. But given our good percentage we might get in on 13 wins - assuming we can keep the losses under a few goals

 

[Pessimistic]

Just looking at the hawks 22 mix on Saturday 14 were drafted and 8 were traded in, with big boy Sicily and birch the clear possible ins

Looking at grand final teams the mix was about 15-16 to 6-7.

Interestingly the top 4 supercoach Saturday were trade ins, the highest draftee in 5th was Ben stratton