Rumour Hugh Greenwood waiting to re-sign!

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I'm taking the current picks over those sorry.

2+20 over 10+14 everyday, regardless of the draft!

Did you actually read my post? Of course you’d take 2 and 20 over 10 and 14!

2+20+29 for 10+14+GWS 2020 1st+Something else(?Hately/Bonar/Caldwell type - all struggling for a spot, especially if they were to grab Anderson/Rowell + Green) is a different matter.

 

[Mismatched]

Isn't there a rule that if you have a 1st rd pick when a bid comes in the 1st rd, you need to use it?

Once the bid comes, you have to use your next pick, and if that’s not enough you have to use the next pick after that and so on.

 

[Crow till I die]

Their 2nd rounder if around their current pick #24 is about fair for Greenwood.

Would then potentially give us #2, #20, #24 & #29 to take into the draft.

If that was on the cards then i would hope we had gone to GWS with an offer of our 2nd and either tge hawthorn 2nd or the carlton 2nd to try and get their essendon 1st..make a deal work for points in their favor. Then go to the draft with say 2, 12 and 24 say

 

[Crow till I die]

It’s an interesting one, especially given where our picks may sit.

Green will go high, GWS currently hold 10, 14 and 50. If Green gets nominated at pick 3, they lose pick 10 and pick 14 drops to 25. If we have pick 2 and threaten to pick Green then, that pick 14 drops into the early 30’s.

Instead if they were to trade pick 10, 14 and their 2020 1st to us for pick 2, 20 and 29 + possibly some even ups, suddenly they get to pick either Rowell or Anderson and then picks 20, 29 and 50 will cover any bid from 3 down. They end up with say Anderson and Green, effectively giving up picks 10, 14 and their 2020 1st, we’d probably net some decent steak knives too(they might even throw in Hately or Bonar given they’re pretty stocked in that position).

Gives us 3 first rounders + decent steak knives and only giving up pick 2 and 2x picks in the 20’s. Obviously depends a lot on how we rate the draft, especially the top 2 picks in comparison to what’s available later in the first round.

It is a possibility as it offers a great chance to replenish the list with extra 1st's this year AND next year again and maybe net a player as 'steak knives' who fills a need

BUT ..i still like the option of trying to trade multiple 2nd rounders with them for the essendon 1st leaving us with 2, 11 then if we trade hugh try to get a 2nd for him...even then i still think that if GC are after hugh we should try to work a deal for their brisbane 1st by adding a 2nd rounder with hugh

 

[Thetrader15]

Did you actually read my post? Of course you’d take 2 and 20 over 10 and 14!

2+20+29 for 10+14+GWS 2020 1st+Something else(?Hately/Bonar/Caldwell type - all struggling for a spot, especially if they were to grab Anderson/Rowell + Green) is a different matter.

Yes, but I got confused. Short attention sp..look, a puppy

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I love Greenwood but he’s not getting any younger and can’t play 4 quarters

His running is substandard AFL level in a team of poor runners

He’s an elite player in every sense when the ball is in his area but if you can bank a top 30 pick for him you take it as we need to regenerate and reshape our list and he’s unlikely to have too many good seasons left

 

[GrommoT]

Isn't there a rule that if you have a 1st rd pick when a bid comes in the 1st rd, you need to use it?

In that case, GWS may look to trade 10,14 for our 2019/1, 20, 29, and then we can see if they want to trade back up after green is matched.

I think we tell them we WILL bid on him, so they will need the points and force their hand.

Then look at Greenwood + 14 for saints 1st

The ∀FL is bringing in a rule this year to specifically stop that from happening again after Sydney pulled off pretty much that move (with help from WC) to protect a high-ish pick while matching a bid from Blakey.

 

[Thetrader15]

The ∀FL is bringing in a rule this year to specifically stop that from happening again after Sydney pulled off pretty much that move (with help from WC) to protect a high-ish pick while matching a bid from Blakey.

I'll be interested to see what rule they make up on the run and the unexpected consequences

 

[SaltPeter]

I'll be interested to see what rule they make up on the run and the unexpected consequences

It was discussed in an article on their website this week or last week. I can't remember the details

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Only we could categorise an elite contested ball winner who can take a pack grab up forward and has good goal sense into a player surplus to requirements

 

[Golumless]

This is the bit I was really referring to ... even if we agree to not bid, I reckon other clubs holding early picks will make a bid.

There is value in staving off a bid for even one more pick that early. 200 odd points is pretty substantial in a downgrade.

I'd be surprised if pick 1 and 2 bidded currently.

 

[hey shorty]

Only we could categorise an elite contested ball winner who can take a pack grab up forward and has good goal sense into a player surplus to requirements

28yo and can't run out a full game, I'm happy to keep him but I wouldn't pay him a huge upgrade.

 

[Golumless]

Only we could categorise an elite contested ball winner who can take a pack grab up forward and has good goal sense into a player surplus to requirements

Be real, are we any shot for a premiership in the next 2-3 years with this list?

Greenwood is as flakey as he is capable of wow moments, and he won't be around when we're contending again (or if he is, firmly at the end). The ruthless move is to see what we can get for him to speed up the nessecary rebuild, instead of holding on and treading water.

 

[Golumless]

What will be annoying is trading Hugh but then giving extensions to Dougie and Mackay.

Should we, yes. Fingers crossed with Douglas being sacrificed post loss that is his career done. Mackay is a different beast all together, though fingers crossed he just retires end of season.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Be real, are we any shot for a premiership in the next 2-3 years with this list?

Greenwood is as flakey as he is capable of wow moments, and he won't be around when we're contending again (or if he is, firmly at the end). The ruthless move is to see what we can get for him to speed up the nessecary rebuild.

We won't get anything for him being so flakey and all

No suitors.

 

[Tex200]

We won't get anything for him being so flakey and all

No suitors.

The reason there will be of course is because we’ve taken his development as far as we can.

Time for finishing school

 

[hey shorty]

We won't get anything for him being so flakey and all

No suitors.

Dont have a problem with it myself, hes not crucial to our side.

 

[Bicks]

It is a possibility as it offers a great chance to replenish the list with extra 1st's this year AND next year again and maybe net a player as 'steak knives' who fills a need

BUT ..i still like the option of trying to trade multiple 2nd rounders with them for the essendon 1st leaving us with 2, 11 then if we trade hugh try to get a 2nd for him...even then i still think that if GC are after hugh we should try to work a deal for their brisbane 1st by adding a 2nd rounder with hugh

A lot will depend on what GWS players seek opportunities elsewhere and the picks they get for them. History dictates they will lose a player or two again this trade week, already there is strong word Coniglio is on the move.

 

[marty36]

Be real, are we any shot for a premiership in the next 2-3 years with this list?

Greenwood is as flakey as he is capable of wow moments, and he won't be around when we're contending again (or if he is, firmly at the end). The ruthless move is to see what we can get for him to speed up the nessecary rebuild, instead of holding on and treading water.

What are you talking about we have a list drafted with pure genius

To suggest we haven't drafted well is unusual

Maybe you are misreading how well we have drafted a premiership list

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[Crow till I die]

A lot will depend on what GWS players seek opportunities elsewhere and the picks they get for them. History dictates they will lose a player or two again this trade week, already there is strong word Coniglio is on the move.

Yes they are likely to lose a player or 2 but their model is holding up so well as everyvyear whilst they lose someone they are hitting the draft with multiple 1st rounders allowing them to keep stockpiling the talent. Good luck to them

 

[GrommoT]

There is value in staving off a bid for even one more pick that early. 200 odd points is pretty substantial in a downgrade.
I'd be surprised if pick 1 and 2 bidded currently.

160 points - but your one stands.

Be real, are we any shot for a premiership in the next 2-3 years with this list?

Greenwood is as flakey as he is capable of wow moments, and he won't be around when we're contending again (or if he is, firmly at the end). The ruthless move is to see what we can get for him to speed up the nessecary rebuild, instead of holding on and treading water.

Actually, keeping Hugh would speed up our recovery but at the cost of an additional player in the longer term. Hugh could be really handy when we become strong again but maybe for just a few years but if we get a decent trade for him and draft/develop well, hopefully we'd have a good ten+ year player.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

I love Greenwood but he’s not getting any younger and can’t play 4 quarters

His running is substandard AFL level in a team of poor runners

He’s an elite player in every sense when the ball is in his area but if you can bank a top 30 pick for him you take it as we need to regenerate and reshape our list and he’s unlikely to have too many good seasons left

I’d be open to it, but it needs to be a top 20 pick. A pick in the late 20’s is not enough.

 

[marty36]

Mid 2nd rounder so around 32 to 36 depending on academy picks

Is what most clubs would consider he is worth

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[Thetrader15]

It was discussed in an article on their website this week or last week. I can't remember the details

The details don't really matter - they'll deliver the outcome then make the rule

 

[Burtonsgottago]

I think they’d be crazy to let him go. I actually see him as a genuine contested marking forward that can also go into the midfield. Play him up forward next year with a proper forwards coach in charge and watch him flourish.