Toast I have faith in Jarrad Schofield

[Ishikawa]

Obviously it's not a determining factor, but considering our lack of brownlow contenders in recent years I'm curious to see both the quality and quantity of our midfielders in the votes with Schofield in control

I really think the Brownlow, a subjective award noting only three players on the field and judged by the umpires who should be focusing on their job at hand is completely superflous to what we are hoping Schofield can achieve.

I want Schofield to develop a robust system, that plays to individuals strengths, is intimately known and executed by the playing group. I want to see the ability for guys like Atley and co to simply step in and know what they have to do to successfully contribute to the side (ala. the inexperienced Richmond midfield against us). I want to see set plays that hold up late in games when it's on the line (ie. not sit around on the skinny side of the contest mouths agape like St Kilda's midfield did in the Ryder2Gray finish). I want our guys to be well drilled in executing changeovers coming off the field for rotations or stints up forward. Our midfield isn't bad but there is a lot of improvement that still can be made. Improved Brownlow polling is not the way to be able to identify if we are getting better in these areas which I would expect the midfield line manager to have control over.

 

[AwwThatsApples]

I really think the Brownlow, a subjective award noting only three players on the field and judged by the umpires who should be focusing on their job at hand is completely superflous to what we are hoping Schofield can achieve.

I want Schofield to develop a robust system, that plays to individuals strengths, is intimately known and executed by the playing group. I want to see the ability for guys like Atley and co to simply step in and know what they have to do to successfully contribute to the side (ala. the inexperienced Richmond midfield against us). I want to see set plays that hold up late in games when it's on the line (ie. not sit around on the skinny side of the contest mouths agape like St Kilda's midfield did in the Ryder2Gray finish). I want our guys to be well drilled in executing changeovers coming off the field for rotations or stints up forward. Our midfield isn't bad but there is a lot of improvement that still can be made. Improved Brownlow polling is not the way to be able to identify if we are getting better in these areas which I would expect the midfield line manager to have control over.

Fair enough. With that said the Brownlow vote is a measure of both quality and consistency, which is something we've failed to do in recent years. Looking at our overall votes from last year it was made evident not only by our game results but also by our votes that crucial players like Wines (Who led us for Brownlow votes in 2018) dropped off in the latter half of the year, paired with players flashing in and out of the votes. I'm not saying that the Brownlow measures whether or not our structure is working or whether we as a team are doing well because a Brownlow has never stopped a club from reaching greater heights. But as you said players should be able to come into the system and understand their position and objective, which in turn should result in a higher quantity of players located in the votes. At the end of the day it's a very minor issue, but seeing improvement in this area is still something that I feel Schofield can improve on as the system he helps put in place may determine the quality and consistency of each individual player within his control. It's not a priority for Schofield, but it will still be a good bonus for the club to take.

 

[FishingRick04]

Let seem him work his midfield magic. Personally Wines our I think helps us. We seemed to looks better with Drew in.

Boak, SPp, Rockcliff, Drew still provides 4 big bodies with Duursma and hopefully Motlop on the wings, I’d assume Westhoff and SGray the other two wingers. There’s enough there for Schofield to work with.

 

[MilitaryLC]

Clarkson back for a year or two and guarantee Jared a transition to head coach.

 

[PA88]

I would be surprised if the club hand the position to Schofield after a year or two as an assistant. He would have to massively impress above other AFL longer term assistants.

 

[Willsy10]

What proof do we have Schofield is the messiah?

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[Doctor Feel]

What proof do we have Schofield is the messiah?

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None. We are pleading for hope.

 

[AwwThatsApples]

I remember when Bassett arrived at the club, and we looked up to him as the man to turn things around, instead, he went on to contribute to our infamous defensive style from 2018, and has now been tasked to coach the forward line, which currently lacks a compelling target in the absence of Charlie Dixon.

I'm not saying that Schofield will suffer the same, because I have plentiful faith in him and what he is capable of, but it sounds immature to throw the kitchen sink at him whilst we lack knowledge of how his future at the club will progress.

 

[Willsy10]

Yeah Bassett had an elite second tier coaching record too, I'm not going to get carried away with Schofield just yet.

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[raptalia]

What proof do we have Schofield is the messiah?

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That is as good question and one that I have been asking myself. Jarrad Schofield's record in the WAFL is impressive (three Premierships in six years as a Head Coach and a further two as a player) and at least he has played for Port and been part of a Port Premiership so I suppose that is a good start. As the Power Midfield Coach he can probably take some credit for the resurgence of Travis Boak. None of this guarantees he has the goods to succeed at AFL level and of course there is the Hinkley influence. Hinkley still has two years to run so I hope he doesn't influence Jarred Schofield and others too much in that time.

If Hinkley were to leave tomorrow I would want to look at the market place and see who else is on the market. In the absence of a Clarkson or similar I would be prepared to give Jarred a go. As posted at least Jarrad knows what winning Premierships is about and importantly he has some Port Adelaide history about him.

 

[raptalia]

I remember when Bassett arrived at the club, and we looked up to him as the man to turn things around, instead, he went on to contribute to our infamous defensive style from 2018, and has now been tasked to coach the forward line, which currently lacks a compelling target in the absence of Charlie Dixon.

I'm not saying that Schofield will suffer the same, because I have plentiful faith in him and what he is capable of, but it sounds immature to throw the kitchen sink at him whilst we lack knowledge of how his future at the club will progress.

In Bassett's defence we knew what we were getting when we appointed him because Bassett coached Norwood to a SANFL Premiership on the back of a theory that, if you restrict the opposition to a low enough score you will win. As a Head Coach Bassett had a really negative mindset which we knew when we appointed him. I guess Ken figured that was all a defensive Coach needed. I would have Jarred Schofield light years ahead of Nathan Bassett as a possible successor to Ken, in fact when Ken Hinkley goes Nathan Bassett should follow.

 

[AwwThatsApples]

In Bassett's defence we knew what we were getting when we appointed him because Bassett coached Norwood to a SANFL Premiership on the back of a theory that, if you restrict the opposition to a low enough score you will win. As a Head Coach Bassett had a really negative mindset which we knew when we appointed him. I guess Ken figured that was all a defensive Coach needed. I would have Jarred Schofield light years ahead of Nathan Bassett as a possible successor to Ken, in fact when Ken Hinkley goes Nathan Bassett should follow.

But then who comes in for Bassett?

 

[Willsy10]

the one thing I've noticed with Bassett though is when he talks footy he tends to make more sense than the rest of them.

I went to a luncheon at the Port Club last year and Bassett and Nicks both spoke and i was left impressed by Bassett but completely confused with Nicks waffle.

 

[PowerBaz]

the one thing I've noticed with Bassett though is when he talks footy he tends to make more sense than the rest of them.

I went to a luncheon at the Port Club last year and Bassett and Nicks both spoke and i was left impressed by Bassett but completely confused with Nicks waffle.

Lots of people like to bag Bass but he's not head coach, we all now Ken is in charge. Bass would be a good coach, he would be a much smarter game day tactician across the ground IMO.

 

[AwwThatsApples]

Come to think of it, Ken, Voss, Bassett and Schofield all seem to have different strengths and weaknesses, and to me, it actually sounds like it's difficult for all of them to work with the same plan because of their different approaches.

 

[raptalia]

Lots of people like to bag Bass but he's not head coach, we all now Ken is in charge. Bass would be a good coach, he would be a much smarter game day tactician across the ground IMO.

Not judging from his days at Norwood. His game plan was based on defence and not that different from Hinkley's. I would not go near Bassett as Head Coach. In any case Bassett has been associated with Hinkley for too long.

 

[PowerBaz]

Not judging from his days at Norwood. His game plan was based on defence and not that different from Hinkley's. I would not go near Bassett as Head Coach. In any case Bassett has been associated with Hinkley for too long.

Hinkley is probably doing Bass's brand damage too.

 

[AwwThatsApples]

Hello?

 

[dirty2]

Hello?

What's ya point?
Scofield and co have there hands tied by the HEAD coach... you know... the dude who sits in the box sipping diet coke.

 

[Butters Made Me Do It]

Its funny, I was going to bump this too after seeing this in another thread

Ended up at footy yesterday with a few people through Subiaco and people who know Schofield and family ok.

I doubt he and ken will be at Port together next year from what was said. Not working together well.

Go Schoey

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

What proof do we have Schofield is the messiah?

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In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king grasshopper.

 

[AwwThatsApples]

What's ya point?
Scofield and co have there hands tied by the HEAD coach... you know... the dude who sits in the box sipping diet coke.

I think this thread deserves a workout that's all.
Give Schoey the attention he deserves.
That's what this thread is for isn't it.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Its funny, I was going to bump this too after seeing this in another thread



Go Schoey

Then get rid of Hinkley and do it now !

 

[AwwThatsApples]

Its funny, I was going to bump this too after seeing this in another thread



Go Schoey

I don't understand what he's saying, is he saying he talked to people who knew Schoey or his family or what? I don't understand his grammar, which I know is rich coming from me, but what does he mean?

 

[JUSTWORK]

I don't understand what he's saying, is he saying he talked to people who knew Schoey or his family or what? I don't understand his grammar, which I know is rich coming from me, but what does he mean?

That he was at the football and he spoke with people who know Schofeild and his (Schofeild's) family.