IMO Denmark are the best team in Europe at 9's but they strangely don't even attend every Euro Cup so I don't think we will be seeing them in the near future.
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IC17 2017 AFL International Cup
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IMO Denmark are the best team in Europe at 9's but they strangely don't even attend every Euro Cup so I don't think we will be seeing them in the near future.
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well it certainly indirectly impacts sports, so i'd say yes. if we are talking about Japanese having skill and not height, there is a background topic there which is of use for better understanding of the situation.
Just checked the general news page on The AFL Website today August 2 and there is NOT a mention of IC17.
This has been my argument since 1998 -No really serious committment to the International Game, and there are at least over a 1000 accrediited AFL journos running around.
There should have been article/articles every day in this lead up week on the general news page site, which is by far the biggest Sports web site in Australia attracting millions of hits, and would have been an excellent period for promotion, and raising awareness.
This has been my argument since 1998 -No really serious committment to the International Game, and there are at least over a 1000 accrediited AFL journos running around.
There should have been article/articles every day in this lead up week on the general news page site, which is by far the biggest Sports web site in Australia attracting millions of hits, and would have been an excellent period for promotion, and raising awareness.
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is this tournament even going to be televised anywhere? if so i doubt i can watch it as an american unless it is streamed online.
AFL website for it here. Has links for streaming.
http://www.afl.com.au/internationalcup/
Edit: May as well link the youtube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVNIihETzsAGXnyN0pnJHDA
Appreciate the links, but the average AFL fan is not likely to go to them -That is the thrust of my comments, and also the AFL is likely to have a unofficial cap already worked out to limit the number of countries involved each time.
Yes, the only people who know about IC17 are those who already know about it.
Really, how hard is it to put a link on AFL.com ?? Doesn't cost an extra cent. Absolutely pathetic.
No. The I.C. doesn't cost the AFL much money at all.
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Well, I'm going on Tuesday 15th at Royal Park. Will most likely take in the 3 late games. Work and local footy means these will be the only games I can get to.
Agree that you have to be looking for the IC cup website to find it, it's not spreading the word.
An unofficial cap makes no sense though, what benefit would that bring the AFL?
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Well look at it this way - If more countries arrive which is the main idea we get told - The AFL will have to allocate more resources and spread it out over 3 weeks perhaps or split into Melbourne section and say Perth section, and the winners meet.
I can tell u now they will never do that
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I don't think there is any evidence of an artificial cap. Originally there were around 25 men's teams registered interest (and from vague memory at least 11 women's). The AFL would have accommodated them all is my understanding. Some were never really a chance to get a team up and others decided they couldn't raise the considerable amount of cash required to attend.
Thanks for the informative reply.
So a possible total of 36 teams could have arrived and would have been catered for. Good to know.
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The post above from Crash answered a few questions I think about the resources available. It appears that the AFL is prepared to increase funding if the team numbers increase, which surprised me.
The next biggie is covering at least 50% of the airfares to get here, and if they do that we would may see the 36 teams rock up, which would be -Wow!
I'd question whether that was the best use of international development resources given what is currently given to international development. It's probably more than what the afl spends in total on international development per year!
You are correct BUT they are spending the money in Australia not overseas - Likely in their thinking that is ok. The funds probably come from the Budget set aside for IC17, or they may have transfered the moneys from elsewhere.
We do not know what the International Development budget is and are not likely to know anytime soon, however the article from The Guardian reveals that the USAFL was allocated $76,000 presumably for 12 months. Can understand their (USAFL) frustration in that article.
They - AFL- still will not reveal the Annual Country breakdown of the International Participation figures, and so it goes on and on. I mean whats the big deal.
Do you have the breakdown figures for AFL O/S expenditure ?
Are you joking? What other countries receive $76,000 (if indeed that is a correct figure). What has the USAFL don't with that budget ?
36 teams from a quality p.o.v. is probably the maximum with teams from Europe and the Pacific being possibles.
36 teams could easily be "accomodated" as they pay to play.
36 teams would mean 3 divisions using Royal park and the women at a separate location.
Or you could use Princess Park and surrounding ovals.
The AFL supplies the organisation, grounds and some officials.
The Vic minister of sport calls IC17 a "major event" which it is but what is Vic government supplying ?
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The AFL provides the USAFL with a yearly sum that barely gets the wheels turning – this year the cheque amounted to US$71,000. That’s barely enough to have a single staffed position working full-time on the management and development of the competition in the United States. The USAFL and its football clubs are, thus, entirely administered by volunteers, and remain independent of the AFL.
Actually it was $71,000 not $76,000.
This is just the start of the rumblings and may or may not gather momentum.
Anyway you are in Melbourne, so keep us posted.
Can you name name any other country in the Northern hemisphere that receives that amount ?
What would the USA do with more money ?
The AFL fund full time position in the CEO of AFL Europe and a full time development officer in China.
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its up from 2011, when it was $40,000. That said, this seems to be a very rare league indeed where the AFL provides direct funds of any kind to any league without an AFL official involved - and has done for a decade.
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The salary of the AFL funded general manager of AFL Europe is 35,000 pounds. AFL Europe revenue in 2014 was 160,000 pounds. When they only charge member associations 100 pounds to join I would think most of this other money comes from the AFL and a little bit from sponsors. Most of that money is spent on admin 95,000, then the rest goes to running events, coaching and umpiring courses, grants to start up clubs for equipment and grants to clubs for install goal posts.
