Miguel Sanchez
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Nice pun.
Wish I could say it was deliberate!
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Nice pun.
Good with it ? Do you think that people that vote no to gay marriage are evil or bad ?Clubs' have a huge following and a huge influence because of that. Do you think with that comes a responsibility to do good with it?
You are comparing SSM to committing a crime?...Do you think people who do crimes are more affected by unlawful violence from police than those who don't? Abuse shouldn't be tolerated. The actions in the first place should not come about either. These people need help for sure. I cannot support their actions though
Lets see what provisions are put in place, assuming this hits the houses (which it should). I hope they get this right for everyone. Beyond that there is no reason to vote this down.That's literally all they're proposing to do.
Good with it ? Do you think that people that vote no to gay marriage are evil or bad ?
People have opinions and it's their right to have them .
You can be outraged and offended all you like but that's just too bad .
As for west coast it's not their place to push their opinions on to people outside of footy .
Oh so your allowed to hate somebody that doesn't agree with LGBT but not the opposite? I'm sorry if my view shouldn't be allowed in a democracyPeople with your beliefs get a lot of hate for good reason. I actually don't know how educated people can hold that view in this day and age.
It's equivalent to saying that all left handed people are weak and morally wrong and should be actively fighting against their left-handedness. It's a roughly similar proportion of the population and they have just as much control over the way they are.
I was using that sentence to show his own logic was bad. Not my opinionYou are literally imposing your ideals on others, and condemning others for doing the same in the same breath.
Yeah, **** it, I need to go there.
Over half the league has now pledged their support for marriage equality in the upcoming postal vote, and when given the chance to join the list, our club took the coward's way out.
This club has hundreds, if not thousands of LGBT supporters. We would've had multiple gay players, and there's a definite possibility that there would be a gay player or players on our list at the moment. Not to mention the many out players currently playing in the AFLW competition the club seems so desperate tomake money fromget involved in.
Sadly, I don't think it would surprise anyone that when given the chance to make a positive stand on behalf of those that are forced to endure this bullshit, the club would rather sit on the fence so as to not risk hurting the bottom line.
If you don't stand for something, you stand for nothing, and I can't think of a sentence that sums this football club up better.
Oh so your allowed to hate somebody that doesn't agree with LGBT but not the opposite? I'm sorry if my view shouldn't be allowed in a democracy
Football had no business in politics or religion.
I for one am glad the club has not come out in support or lack of support.
I'm disgusted in the AFL making this stand.
Get on with football and let people vote how they want without trying to influence anyone either way.
Yeah let's ban the guy with an opinion different to the masses. He asked me for what I believed and I told him. If my belief offends you then I'm sorry but it's too bad.Are we going to let this go unchecked? Shouldn't have to read this kind of drivel on here.
It's so horrific that I'm not even sure you're serious.
Disappointing from the club too.
I don't agree with your opinion but I belive that you have a right to it and shouldn't be persecuted for it .Because you asked me I will tell you. Because I believe being LGBT etc etc is morally wrong. How does a random murder on the news affect you? How about tax evasion? Doesn't affect you directly so why does it bother you? This will make you angry but to me it's all the same thing. It all morally wrong. I don't hate these people. I don't bully these people. I just dont support them and will voice what I believe is morally correct. I know plenty of gay people that actively fight against that weakness they have because they believe it's wrong too and they vote no. People with my beliefs get a lot of hate but that's just how it is
I'm not sure what world you live in where gay people are so oppressed and demonised but I work on a oil rig with about 100 blokes and if there was any environment discrimination against gay people would exist, it would be that one but let me tell you, there are a few openly gay blokes on there and no one gives a toss. The fact that they can't legally get married won't make a difference. They might feel sad about it but they're not going to be descriminated against over itSee the problem is that our actions have consequences beyond our control. I absolutey believe that you don't wish to encourage those things, but the consequence of a no result would be a huge encouragement to those who do wish for those things, so even if that's not your intention or your wish, those things still result from a no outcome.
People with your beliefs get a lot of hate for good reason. I actually don't know how educated people can hold that view in this day and age.
It's equivalent to saying that all left handed people are weak and morally wrong and should be actively fighting against their left-handedness. It's a roughly similar proportion of the population and they have just as much control over the way they are.
EFAYour view is allowed in a democracy. Equally, people are allowed to hate you for your view as it is close-minded, backward and abhorrent.
Cheap shot really. That was about racism in sport and very much an issue for the AFL.Do you view Nicky Winmar's stand as a bad thing then?
And changing the definition of marriage and the law allowing ssm is such a trivial issue it's similar to left handed people?
Do you view Nicky Winmar's stand as a bad thing then?
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Honestly though I expect to be hated for my beliefs.
Conservative Christians are quickly becoming a minority and are executed across the world daily for what they believe. Whatever I don't care..
I ask you why there isn't a celebrate white people round? Or a heterosexual round?
So people with this view are uneducated?
And part of this debate is about bullying gay people yet you just bullied people who believe it's wrong. But that's ok from your stance isn't it?
And changing the definition of marriage and the law allowing ssm is such a trivial issue it's similar to left handed people?
I don't know how anyone with an education can hold that opinion.
That's not actually what I said, but yes changing the definition should be a trivial issue. As it was when Howard changed it in 2004.
It's been blown immensely out of proportion. It should have been a bill put to the parliament, voted in and gotten on with.