International Cup 2014 - with teams listed as confirmed in OP

[Aucklander]

Was posted on the main forum but has been swamped already. Deserves its own thread here.

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The AFL today announced the 2014 International Cup will be held in Melbourne from Saturday August 9 to Saturday August 23, 2014.

The fifth International Cup carnival will include two AFL curtain-raiser matches, matches played at AFL and VFL venues, a men’s and women’s competition, a standalone AFL 9s fixture and matches linked with community football leagues.

AFL International Development Manager Tony Woods said the aim was to make IC14 the biggest International Cup to date.

Updates -

Ive been told by the British and Irish teams that the 9s tournament has been cancelled. -Wookie

Confirmed Teams

• Ireland (Mens and Womens) - Preview
  
• New Zealand (Mens and Womens) - confirmed earlier in the year
  
• Canada (Mens and Womens) - confirmed earlier in the year
  
• USA (Mens and Womens) - confirmed earlier in the year
  
• Papua New Guinea (Mens only, no womens side according to wfn)
  
• Great Britain (Mens only) - Preview
  
• France (Mens only) - confirmed via email, preview soon
  
• Fiji (Mens) - source WFN
• Japan (Mens) - source WFN

Not confirmed

• Denmark - insufficient funding (email)
• Solomon islands - insufficient funding (WFN)

 

[HaroCant]

I want to go to a match

 

[Putney Magpies]

Gb will be there... Lost to Ireland by one point in the grand final for the European champs in Dublin last week with the last kick of the game. Great standard!!!

 

[9999]

Gb will be there... Lost to Ireland by one point in the grand final for the European champs in Dublin last week with the last kick of the game. Great standard!!!

Hi goat

 

[fumbler]

Can't wait to see which teams will be here this time.

 

[The_Wookie]

we're going to run a series of interviews with various overseas leagues over the offseason this year. If you run or are heavily involved in an overseas Australian rules competition, drop me a pm or email me at jmlassey@gmail.com. The first interview with ARFLI President Kian Quigley will be up shortly.

 

[HookeyRox]

Do you think they will be any chance of allowing AFL players with foreign backgrounds represent their home nation in the 2014 International Cup. It would definitely increase the standard of the competition which is a good thing.

For example, Mike Pyke (Canada), Nic Nat (Fiji), Karmichael Hunt (NZ), as well as the various other Irish/American/New Zealander senior/rookie players on the lists of a number of AFL clubs.

 

[jatz14]

Do you think they will be any chance of allowing AFL players with foreign backgrounds represent their home nation in the 2014 International Cup. It would definitely increase the standard of the competition which is a good thing.

For example, Mike Pyke (Canada), Nic Nat (Fiji), Karmichael Hunt (NZ), as well as the various other Irish/American/New Zealander senior/rookie players on the lists of a number of AFL clubs.

None, firstly, risking potentially important players for a comp of no significance to AFL level footballers, clubs will not let it happen. Second, this is a comp primarily designed to let different foreign leagues compare themselves to other leagues, and give their domestic players something to aspire to.

Having Mike Pike taking ruck knocks for Canada says nothing about the state of Aussie rules in Canada, and deprives a Canadian player of a spot. Players want to play with the players they play with and against at home, not blow ins they have never seen before. On that basis, even letting Irish players knocking about in Aussie amateur leagues play for Ireland is a bit questionable.

The only exception I could consider is if an AFL recruit learned the game in, and was recruited from a foreign league.

 

[fabulousphil]

None, firstly, risking potentially important players for a comp of no significance to AFL level footballers, clubs will not let it happen. Second, this is a comp primarily designed to let different foreign leagues compare themselves to other leagues, and give their domestic players something to aspire to.

Having Mike Pike taking ruck knocks for Canada says nothing about the state of Aussie rules in Canada, and deprives a Canadian player of a spot. Players want to play with the players they play with and against at home, not blow ins they have never seen before. On that basis, even letting Irish players knocking about in Aussie amateur leagues play for Ireland is a bit questionable.

The only exception I could consider is if an AFL recruit learned the game in, and was recruited from a foreign league.

Actually agree with your post, however the new Irish draftee Flynn (?), played in the local Irish AFL league, and Richmonds PNG recruit learnt his football in PNG with a local side. ( Gideon Simon), and one of the American boys drafted also played local football in the good old USA.

A couple of years ago, it was considered a unlikely dream by passionate supporters of football O/S that a player would ever be drafted out of a O/S league, it seems to be, becoming quite the norm now.

Off topic, but i am suprised that more South Afrcian boys have not been drafted

 

[jatz14]

I do not think of any of these as being the sort of player I meant, although Gideon Smith comes close. Most of these played overseas to try and get a little experience before coming to the AFL. None of them were selected for the AFL based on footballing ability shown in those leagues, they were selected for athleticism, and used the overseas leagues to get a headstart on their development. Gideon is the exception, but even he did a lot of his development here.

They player I am thinking of is a player who is selected on footballing ability shown in an overseas league. None of the leagues are good enough yet, but some are getting closer and I think it can happen.

 

[fabulousphil]

I do not think of any of these as being the sort of player I meant, although Gideon Smith comes close. Most of these played overseas to try and get a little experience before coming to the AFL. None of them were selected for the AFL based on footballing ability shown in those leagues, they were selected for athleticism, and used the overseas leagues to get a headstart on their development. Gideon is the exception, but even he did a lot of his development here.

They player I am thinking of is a player who is selected on footballing ability shown in an overseas league. None of the leagues are good enough yet, but some are getting closer and I think it can happen.

Fair enough, BTW, you will have to quote my post in future, i have no idea where i post all the time , so if i dont get a alert, i have no idea you have responded.

Cheers.

 

[The_Wookie]

I do not think of any of these as being the sort of player I meant, although Gideon Smith comes close. Most of these played overseas to try and get a little experience before coming to the AFL. None of them were selected for the AFL based on footballing ability shown in those leagues, they were selected for athleticism, and used the overseas leagues to get a headstart on their development. Gideon is the exception, but even he did a lot of his development here.

They player I am thinking of is a player who is selected on footballing ability shown in an overseas league. None of the leagues are good enough yet, but some are getting closer and I think it can happen.

Straight out of the DAFL (danish)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-02-04/dane

Bang discovered the sport two years ago during a trip to Australia and plies his trade with the Aalborg Kangaroos and Danish Vikings.

Considered the leading player in last year's Euro Cup, Bang will also play in the NEAFL with the UWS Giants.

 

[Crows_United_FC]

is there a list of competing teams??

 

[The_Wookie]

there wont be yet, some teams wont confirm participation until a lot closer to the event as in most cases players need to save money.

 

[fitzroybowiedog]

Indonesia are coming.

 

[Aucklander]

Pakistan will be there.

https://www.facebook.com/Pkshaheens?fref=ts

 

[The_Wookie]

From the conversations ive had so far.

The US mens and womens teams will be there
The Canadians will be there in both mens and womens
The Irish will be there in mens at least, but probably womens

The Finns are hopeful, as are the Japanese.

 

[jatz14]

NZ men will be there, and from the recent girls game, possibly a womens team as well
PNG will also be there in mens and womens

 

[The_Wookie]

Iceland probably wont be there, travel costs are excessive.

 

[sverik25]

Hey guys,
I'm not sure how to start a new thread so I'll post it here instead. My Facebook page called AFL Around the World is great for any of you interested in the latest news and discussions from the world of Aussie Rules internationally. So if you want to give it a like (most appreciated), here is the link:
https://www.facebook.com/afl.around.the.world

 

[The_Wookie]

China will be there im told.

 

[Aucklander]

Hey guys,
I'm not sure how to start a new thread so I'll post it here instead.

Mate, you need to get a few more posts first and then you'll be flying.

 

[sverik25]

Okay thanks, now back to the topic of this thread.

This is be my tentative list of teams to participate in IC 2014:

Mens:
Almost Certainties:
Ireland
PNG
NZ
South Africa
USA
Canada
UK
Denmark
Fiji
Nauru

Very Good Chance:
India
Sweden
France
Pakistan (for the first time!)
Peace Team (if the idea is still going)
Croatia
China

Possibilities:
Finland
Germany
Tonga
Samoa
Japan (I believe AFL Japan is in decline)
Vanuatu
Austria
Italy
the Netherlands
Norway
East Timor

 

[fitzroybowiedog]

Indonesia are coming, it'll be our debut as well

 

[sverik25]

Ahh didn't really consider Indonesia. Hope everything goes well!