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Bluejay, do you think the Catalans and the Madrid competitions will get together to put a team in the 2008 IC?

I very much doubt so, for many reasons:

I guess you already know about the political issues that coexist all around Europe in most countries and regions. Catalonia, and thus Spain, are no different.

Our Catalan government helps us paying all the travel expenses whenever we play as Catalonia and recognizes us and our sport as official. The Spanish authorities for Sport said 2 years ago that aussie rules was nothing and obviously they don't help with money. So the Madrid Bears have to pay all the expenses themselves and we don't. The thing is that if we go under the name of Spain, we're in the same position than the Madrid Bears. They are mostly expats, and they have better prices for plane tickets to travel back to Australia. Here in the LFAC there is no aussie at all and we don't have as much money as some people of the madrid Bears, so we're happy to know our government helps us while we representate Catalonia internationally.

LFAC relationship with Jeff Callow and the Madrid Bears deteriorated a lot since the last IC, when they traveled to Australia without even telling then Belfry Valls founder and now LFAC president Pedro Moliner, and opting to ignore us completely.

On a personal note, and it is just my opinion and not that of other members of the LFAC, I would never ever play for Spain. My Identity Card might say I am Spanish, but I do not feel Spanish at all. I never go for Spain in any of the team sports nor do I cheer for Spanish players in individual sports. I am Catalan and always will be, and would play with any other country but Spain.

I hope this clarifies our position about 2008 IC and the possibilities of going to Australia in 2008. We hope the AFL change and the IC organisation their mind about letting nations participate, but as it is right now, I guess we won't be able to make it.
 
Very unfortunate situation that obviously goes way beyond footy. You'd have to think it's unlikely the AFL would accept a country to the IC which isn't recognised as a country by the wider world (I'm not passing any judgement there on whether it should or shouldn't be recognised). I guess you just have to be happy to get on with enjoying your footy locally and at some other tournaments.
 
Very unfortunate situation that obviously goes way beyond footy. You'd have to think it's unlikely the AFL would accept a country to the IC which isn't recognised as a country by the wider world (I'm not passing any judgement there on whether it should or shouldn't be recognised). I guess you just have to be happy to get on with enjoying your footy locally and at some other tournaments.

Yes, I know it is very unlikely. But happy? Hell no. As any good honest person, we will "fight" for what we believe is right. Meanwhile, we will continue to play our local footy league and try to participate in as many international tournaments as possible. After all, we're still learning the footy ways in here. :D
 

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Bluejay thanks for all the clarifications. Your passion as a Catalan and for your footy is to be admired. I do hold out a vain hope though that footy can somehow overcome these bigger issues at some time in the future.
 
Yes, I know it is very unlikely. But happy? Hell no. As any good honest person, we will "fight" for what we believe is right. Meanwhile, we will continue to play our local footy league and try to participate in as many international tournaments as possible. After all, we're still learning the footy ways in here. :D

Understood. It seems like maybe as the EU continues to evolve that maybe country borders will become less important and regions will gain greater independence or more freedom to express a regional identity. So maybe there is hope? But it's a very complicated subject I'm sure.
 
LFAC relationship with Jeff Callow and the Madrid Bears deteriorated a lot since the last IC, when they traveled to Australia without even telling then Belfry Valls founder and now LFAC president Pedro Moliner, and opting to ignore us completely.

At risk of starting some nasty fights...

I doubt that Pere Moliner was unaware of the Bears planning to go to Melbourne. He and I were both on the Madrid Bears mailing list and unless he wasn't reading his emails back then he knew full well that the Bulls were getting ready to go. I think there were a few others from the LFAC on the Bears' mailing list back then too.

BUT

There were some nasty things said about Catalonia in general by Madrid players on the mailing list which I suspect had more to do with it - and I also suspect that it's true the Madrid Bears chose to snub the Catalans with regards to choosing their team.

In emails to Pere in the lead-up to the IC he told me it was depended on finances whether or not they went to Melbourne... So somewhere the story needs straightening.

Either way - the LFAC and Madrid Bears ultimately need to make peace, regardless of regional politics. It's a huge opportunity being wasted that there can't even be matches between Madrid and the Catalans during the year... Bill it as Real vs Barca...
 
At risk of starting some nasty fights...

I won't follow you on that 'nasty' fight. :cool:

I doubt that Pere Moliner was unaware of the Bears planning to go to Melbourne. He and I were both on the Madrid Bears mailing list and unless he wasn't reading his emails back then he knew full well that the Bulls were getting ready to go. I think there were a few others from the LFAC on the Bears' mailing list back then too.

If you knew Pere Moliner that well, you would also know he's not that much of a genius with computers, and he tends to have problems with them and his email accounts (I can count at least 5 different accounts he's had since I got to know him for various reason that I won't get into right now). I really don't know if he was reading that email list or not, and that's not the point anyway.

BUT

There were some nasty things said about Catalonia in general by Madrid players on the mailing list which I suspect had more to do with it - and I also suspect that it's true the Madrid Bears chose to snub the Catalans with regards to choosing their team.

In emails to Pere in the lead-up to the IC he told me it was depended on finances whether or not they went to Melbourne... So somewhere the story needs straightening.

Do you want straightening? Ok. I've just called him. He confirms my story and adds more info: noone from the Madrid Bears OFFICIALLY contacted him (which is not to say he didn't know they were preparing to go, and I never said so either) and only 2 days before the inscription deadline, and because the Bears were having problems to find enough people to go, Jeff Callow contacted him with the possibility to go. Of course, that's not enough time at all to decide to spend the big amount of money to travel to Australia. And also, that's not how things should be done, ideally anyway. That is maybe why he told you about the financiation problems.

On the matter of the nasty things said on Catalonia and Catalans, I frankly don't care, we get all kinds of bashing on an everyday basis from all around Spain. You get used to it in the end and choose to ignore it, and of course, there's stupid people everywhere. And you suspect wrong if you think this had to do with it.

Either way - the LFAC and Madrid Bears ultimately need to make peace, regardless of regional politics. It's a huge opportunity being wasted that there can't even be matches between Madrid and the Catalans during the year... Bill it as Real vs Barca...

From what Pere Moliner has just told me, the opportunity was wasted long time ago (and not now). Before the last IC, what was the beginning of the LFAC (the Belfry Valls team) went to Madrid to play the Bears. Obviously a Bears team with lots of aussies smashed the catalans with no experience and no aussie. Pere Moliner tried to invite the Bears many times to come to Valls with no luck, even after the IC. In the end, one of the Bears representatives who some of you might know with the nickname of ninomu told him they would come. Pere had booked the ground and prepared everything for the day he said they would come and, with no warning, they didn't even show up. So you can imagine where today's situation comes from. If you add to that my own feelings I already stated before in another post (which other LFAC members share though not all), you can guess the peace you mention is not only stopped by what you call 'regional politics' but many other.... things.

And after this long tiring post, this theme is closed from my end, unless you have something more to add.

Cheers. :)
 
Edinburgh Bloods 8.8.56 beaten by the Edinburgh Bodysnatchers 10.11.71

In a repeat of last seasons SARFL grand final Edinburgh Bloods played the Edinburgh Bodysnatchers. It was a very close game with the Bloods leading by just 4 pts at 3 quarter time. The Bodysnatchers finished strongly, hitting the front for the first time with 5 minutes to go, and couple of further late goals put the result beyond doubt.


Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final​
Bloods
2.4 4.6 7.6 8.8 56
Bodysnatchers
2.1 4.3 6.8 10.11 71​
 
LFAC - Catalonia

Round 2 - 5/5/2007
Belfry Valls 8.6 (54) @ Barcelona Stars 6.10 (46)

The Stars improved a lot at their home field, and even though missing a couple of key players due to injury, managed to stay close in the scoreboard and only fail to win the game because of goal kicking inaccuracy.

More info soon in www.lfac.cat (in catalan, bew domain finally working). Scores and stats at www.thefootyrecord.net (in english, thanks Ian).
 
AFL Germany
3rd game day

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7
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8
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50
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8
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10
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58
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3
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9
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6
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bye Hamburg Dockers

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The results from the Haggis Cup matches. 2x 10 minute halves. 14 a-side games

GLASGOW V. BRUSSELS/SWANS
16-21​
EDINBURGH V. DEMONS
21-15​
GLASGOW V. NLL
4-34​
BRUSSELS/SWANS V. EDINBURGH
0-58​
DEMONS V. NLL
21-27​
GLASGOW V. EDINBURGH
9-31​
BRUSSELS/SWANS V. DEMONS
24-36​
NLL V. EDINBURGH
10-16​
GLASGOW V. DEMONS
12-29​
NLL V. BRUSSELS/SWANS
29-14​

GRAND FINAL – 1ST V. 2ND:

EDINBURGH V. NLL
27-7​
 

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So why comment?

Because I reckon it's worth asking questions if you reckon it'll get information.

BlueJay - thanks for the clarifications.

All I have to add is that I think you guys do a great job under tough conditions and I look forward to seeing what happens in future!
 
Two recent matches from Scotland. It was wet and heavy under foot. A good start to the season for both Edinburgh sides to follow up the combined Edinburgh team winning the Haggis cup the weekend before.

Sat 12/5/2007 @ Edinburgh Meadows

Edinburgh Bodysnatchers 12.5.77 def Glasgow Sharks 1.5.11

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final​
BodySnatchers
4.2 7.3 9.4 12.5 77​
Sharks
0.0 0.3 1.4 1.5 11​



Edinburgh Bloods 12.8.80 def Glasgow Magpies 1.0.6

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final​
Bloods
3.4 6.4 9.6 12.8 80​
Magpies
0.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 6​
 
Ontario Australian Football League

Round 2 Results

Kangaroos (9.8.62) def. Dingos (5.8.38)
Hawks (20.18.138) def. Demons (2.5.17)
Eagles (10.18.78) def. Rebels (3.2.20)
Wildcats (11.8.74) def. Blues (6.4.40)
 
AFL GERMANY


Round 4 - 19/05/2007
<table style="border-color: black; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); width: 202px; height: 42px;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td>Rheinland</td> <td width="30">12</td> <td width="30">15</td> <td width="30">87</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="19">Hamburg</td> <td width="30">3</td> <td width="30">2</td> <td width="30">20</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
<table style="border-color: black; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); width: 202px; height: 42px;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr> <td>Frankfurt</td> <td width="30">28</td> <td width="30">21</td> <td width="30">189</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="19">Berlin</td> <td width="30">1</td> <td width="30">4</td> <td width="30">10</td></tr></tbody></table>
Table
<table><tbody><tr style="background-color: rgb(229, 229, 229);"><td>Team</td> <td>played</td> <td>for-against</td> <td>%</td> <td>Points</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Rheinland</td> <td>4</td> <td>239-139</td> <td>172%</td> <td>12</td> </tr><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Frankfurt</td> <td>3</td> <td>288-128</td> <td>225%</td> <td>8</td> </tr><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Munich</td> <td>3</td> <td>165-105</td> <td>157%</td> <td>8</td> </tr><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Hamburg</td> <td>3</td> <td>135-171</td> <td>79%</td> <td>4</td> </tr><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Berlin</td> <td>3</td> <td>57-341</td> <td>17%</td> <td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>


Next Matches

Runde 5 - 02.06.2007
<table style="border-color: black; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); width: 199px; height: 42px;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td>Berlin</td> <td width="30">0</td> <td width="30">0</td> <td width="30">0</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="19">Munich</td> <td width="30">0</td> <td width="30">0</td> <td width="30">0</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
<table style="border-color: black; background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243); width: 197px; height: 42px;" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr> <td>Hamburg</td> <td width="30">0</td> <td width="30">0</td> <td width="30">0</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="19">Frankfurt</td> <td width="30">0</td> <td width="30">0</td> <td width="30">0</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
Ontario Australian Football League (AFL Canada)

Round 6 Results
Kangaroos (11.12.78) def. Hawks (5.12.42)
Demons (10.13.73) def. Blues (7.3.45)
Eagles (15.12.102) def. Wildcats (10.11.71)
Gargoyles (10.11.71) def. Rebels (5.6.36)
 
AFL Germany
Runde 5 - 2nd June

Berlin Crocodiles 1.4 (10)
Munich Kangaroos 29.17 (191)

Hamburg Dockers 8.5 (53)
Frankfurt Redbacks 9.6 (60)

Round 6 - 16th June

Rheinland Lions 12.12 (84)
Frankfurt Redbacks 6.11 (47)

Hamburg Dockers 4.4 (28)
Munich Kangaroos 11.15 (81)

table
<table><tbody><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"><td>Rheinland</td> <td>6</td> <td>5</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>379:212</td> <td>179%</td> <td>20</td> </tr><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Munich</td> <td>6</td> <td>4</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>463:199</td> <td>233%</td> <td>16</td> </tr><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Frankfurt</td> <td>5</td> <td>3</td> <td>0</td> <td>2</td> <td>395:265</td> <td>149%</td> <td>12</td> </tr><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Hamburg</td> <td>6</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>5</td> <td>263:393</td> <td>67%</td> <td>4</td> </tr><tr style="background-color: rgb(243, 243, 243);"> <td>Berlin</td> <td>5</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>4</td> <td>148:579</td> <td>26%</td> <td>4</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
AFL GERMANY (www.aflg.de)
After long time Results from RD 9

<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="border-style: solid none none solid; border-color: windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: 1.5pt medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 75.7pt; background-color: transparent;" rowspan="4" valign="top" width="126">Spiel 1:
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</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45.05pt; height: 10.15pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="75">
Goals
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Behinds
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Points
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3
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5
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</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 149.85pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="7" valign="top" width="250"> Rheinland Lions
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4
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9
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33
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none none solid solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium medium 1.5pt 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 75.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="126"> Torsch*tzen:
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</td> <td style="border-style: none none solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 323.8pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="13" valign="top" width="540">
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 75.7pt; background-color: transparent;" rowspan="4" valign="top" width="126"> Spiel 2:
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 323.8pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="13" valign="top" width="540"> Berlin, Schiller Park, 2PM CET
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</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45.05pt; height: 3.8pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="75">
Goals
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Behinds
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 77.95pt; height: 3.8pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="130">
Points
</td></tr> <tr style="height: 3.75pt;"> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 149.85pt; height: 3.75pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="7" valign="top" width="250"> Berlin Crocodiles
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45.05pt; height: 3.75pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="75">
8
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 50.95pt; height: 3.75pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="85">
7
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 77.95pt; height: 3.75pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="130">
55
</td></tr> <tr style="height: 3.75pt;"> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 149.85pt; height: 3.75pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="7" valign="top" width="250"> Frankfurt Redbacks
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45.05pt; height: 3.75pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="75">
13
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 50.95pt; height: 3.75pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="85">
14
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 77.95pt; height: 3.75pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" width="130">
92
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="border-style: none none solid solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext; border-width: medium medium 1.5pt 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 75.7pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="top" width="126"> Torsch*tzen:
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt 1.5pt medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 323.8pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="13" valign="top" width="540"> Berlin: Michael Frangos 4, Thomas Michalik 2, Patrik Schröder 1, George Will 1
Frankfurt: Daniel Constable 6, Markus Klusemann 4, Malte Schudlich 2, Just Beyer 1
</td></tr></tbody></table>

















<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr style="height: 1.6pt;"><td style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 120.5pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="201">Team
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
Games
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
W
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
L
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
D
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 36pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="60">
For
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
Against
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
%
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 54pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="90">
Points
</td></tr> <tr style="height: 1.6pt;"> <td style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 120.5pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="201"> Rheinland Lions
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
8
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
6
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
1
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
1
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 36pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="60">
519
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
268
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
194
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 54pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="90">
26
</td></tr> <tr style="height: 1.6pt;"> <td style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 120.5pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="201"> Munich Kangaroos
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
7
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
5
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
2
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
0
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 36pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="60">
528
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
225
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
235
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 54pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="90">
20
</td></tr> <tr style="height: 1.6pt;"> <td style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 120.5pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="201"> Frankfurt Redbacks
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
7
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
4
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
3
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
0
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 36pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="60">
513
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
385
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
133
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 54pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="90">
16
</td></tr> <tr style="height: 1.6pt;"> <td style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 120.5pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="201"> Hamburg Dockers
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
7
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
1
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
5
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
1
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 36pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="60">
296
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
426
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
69
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 54pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="90">
6
</td></tr> <tr style="height: 1.6pt;"> <td style="border-style: none none none solid; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 120.5pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="201"> Berlin Crocodiles
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
7
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
1
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
6
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 18pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="30">
0
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 36pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="60">
226
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
778
</td> <td style="border: medium none rgb(236, 233, 216); padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 45pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" colspan="2" valign="bottom" width="75">
29
</td> <td style="border-style: none solid none none; border-color: rgb(236, 233, 216) windowtext rgb(236, 233, 216) rgb(236, 233, 216); border-width: medium 1.5pt medium medium; padding: 0cm 3.5pt; width: 54pt; height: 1.6pt; background-color: transparent;" valign="bottom" width="90">
4
</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
Gents,
I'm heading to Germany and want to know whether The Arc -pub (Munich)will be showing the AFL Grand Final Live?? Or is there a pub in Munich that does??
Anyone care to respond????
 

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