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Only with the die hard MAGAS without a brain cell between them.
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Guilty as charged m'lud.
But it is all a set up says Donald.
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Now we will see if the judge has the balls to send Trump to gaol.
But it is all a set up says Donald.
Trump found guilty on all counts. Here's the count-by-count breakdown
A Manhattan jury found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records he faced in his New York hush money criminal trial. Follow here for the latest live news updates, analysis and more.
Now we will see if the judge has the balls to send Trump to gaol.
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Highly unlikelyGuilty as charged m'lud.
But it is all a set up says Donald.
Trump found guilty on all counts. Here's the count-by-count breakdown
A Manhattan jury found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records he faced in his New York hush money criminal trial. Follow here for the latest live news updates, analysis and more.
Now we will see if the judge has the balls to send Trump to gaol.
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The truth is no one really knows what happens from here in. Trump could serve up to four years gaol which would make his candidacy extremely difficult as he may need to conduct it from a gaol cell. It all depends on the judge but given Trump's comments about biased Court proceedings etc. he is unlikely to get any sympathy from the bench.
Trump will probably appeal but an appeal would likely run into or past the Presidential election campaign which will be interesting.
You would like to think that there was enough common sense among Republicans to halt Trump's campaign before it goes any further. You would also like to think there is enough common sense among the American electorate that they will not vote for a convicted felon but any thing is possible in the land of the free.
We await developments.
I mean most legal experts seem pretty certain that even if the sentence involves gaol time (which is unlikely) it will be delayed until the appeals process is finished. That will not be until well after the November elections.
There is no common sense left among republicans. They are determined to see Trump on the ballot no matter what and they will vote for him no matter what.
I don't think blue team and red team will ever close the gap on the division....
The gap is too great now....it's unfortunate
The gap is too great now....it's unfortunate
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I don't understand how Trump was found guilty. I mean I do, I am not challenging it, but why? Why did he go to those lengths? Couldn't he have just took out 130k cash and paid it off that way? Why some sort of elaborate cover up leaving a paper trail?
I don't think he's that dumb, more that he was trying to be far too clever, and that in way, was an even dumber thing to do. Dumb mixed in with ego.
I don't think he's that dumb, more that he was trying to be far too clever, and that in way, was an even dumber thing to do. Dumb mixed in with ego.
The evidence of the trial convinced the jury about a narrative that said Trump had an affair with a pr0n star (Stormy Daniels) while his wife was home with their newborn baby boy and that he paid $130k in hush money to Ms Daniels to keep the story secret.
Whether he paid that money in cash or via a cheque is irrelevant really. Because paying 'hush money' is not illegal. What IS illegal in the US is falsifying documents in an attempt to cover those payments up - regardless of how they are made.
The testimony of witnesses, especially his ex-lawyer, made it clear that Trump’s motive for doing that was not to protect his wife but to promote his election chances. He did not want those payments to become public - that's the point - and so he tried to hide them in his accounts as legitimate business expenses. He would have got caught out the same way even if he made a cash payment.
Once Ms Daniels came out with details of the hush money payment - and showing the payment on her side of the ledger - it was only a matter of time that the source of the payment, hidden in Trump's books, was found and the reason for it being hidden was disclosed.
He wasn't 'trying to be far too clever' at all. He was trying to hide proof of his affair from the country for political gain. Because that's what Trump does - cheat and lie and hide the evidence. And this time he got caught in that lie.
The 'cover up' of the payment was the felony. Not the cheating not the hush money payment in an attempt to keep it secret.
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I get that.
But what would the risk have been using good old fashioned cash from his personal account, under the mattress, from the safe, whatever?
The risk of the the person making the actual cash payment (his attorney Michael Cohen for example) testifying against him was even greater.
After all it was Cohen whose testimony helped sink him.
And the subsequent fall out of a revelation Trump had a hidden cash slush fund at his disposal would have made him subject to even greater felony criminal charges, including for tax fraud. Let alone making a cash payment from his 'personal account'. The need for a cover-up story to hide the purpose of the payment was still there once Daniels had shown she had received the money.
We are not dealing with 'cash money' payments to tradies here. Remember it was a cover up of cash payments that started the ball rolling in the Watergate scandal that sunk President Nixon and financial tracking mechanisms for Presidential candidates are far more sophisticated now than they were in 1972
Also remember that one early line of defence of the Trump Defence was that Trump paid Ms Daniels only to protect his family, not to defraud voters (i.e. he did make the payment but for selfless reasons) but then the team never developed that argument once the full story of what transpired came out.
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It's like going after mobsters for tax fraud. In the scheme of things it's one of the least bad things they've done, but at least it's a chance to get them for SOMETHING. This is a guy who's used his wealth his whole life to be a scummy piece of shit with no consequences. It's like being coach of port Adelaide with Koch as chair. No accountability
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What kind of a world are we living in where someone who has been paid hush money doesn't keep hush.
That's the real crime here.
That's the real crime here.
Trump needs to take tips from his Russian friends.
It's a pity Trumps head is too fat to fit most open windows frames.
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You overestimate him.
For most politicians, e.g. Boris Johnson and Scott Morrison, the blokey bloke man of the people routine is all a bit of an act. Trump on the other hand actually is genuinely stupid.
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The attack on our most hallowed institutions that came on Thursday and Friday from Republican Senators and Congresspeople, governors and flacks, after Trump’s conviction was no different from the institutional assault on the court by the Federalist Society or on Capitol Hill by the Jan. mob.
Attacks on America from within are directly linked to attacks on America—our ideas and ideals, our friends and allies—from overseas.
Putin attacks Ukraine as a step toward attacking NATO and weakening the West. And when he does he gets the support of Trump, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Tucker Carlson, and Mike Flynn, and the MAGA loonies. Orbán weakens Hungarian democracy and spreads antisemitic and anti-immigrant slurs and he is celebrated as a model by Trump, welcomed to Mar-a-Lago, lionized by the American right. Farage attacks the EU and Trump undercuts and degrades our allies and alliances. Putin and Trump both attack “fake news.”
It is, you see, all the same story. It is all one concerted, comprehensive, increasingly successful effort to destroy America and the institutions we have built since World War II from within and from without. And as you watch as our freedoms are stripped away, and as you read about Trump’s 2025 plan, and his desire to pull out of NATO and essentially leave Eastern Europe at the mercy of Putin, it should be clear that this global effort, this international right-wing movement, is positioned to do more damage to us and to our allies than did all the armies of Hitler, Mussolini, Japan, the Kaiser, or Soviet Russia and its satellite states
Attacks on America from within are directly linked to attacks on America—our ideas and ideals, our friends and allies—from overseas.
Putin attacks Ukraine as a step toward attacking NATO and weakening the West. And when he does he gets the support of Trump, and Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Tucker Carlson, and Mike Flynn, and the MAGA loonies. Orbán weakens Hungarian democracy and spreads antisemitic and anti-immigrant slurs and he is celebrated as a model by Trump, welcomed to Mar-a-Lago, lionized by the American right. Farage attacks the EU and Trump undercuts and degrades our allies and alliances. Putin and Trump both attack “fake news.”
It is, you see, all the same story. It is all one concerted, comprehensive, increasingly successful effort to destroy America and the institutions we have built since World War II from within and from without. And as you watch as our freedoms are stripped away, and as you read about Trump’s 2025 plan, and his desire to pull out of NATO and essentially leave Eastern Europe at the mercy of Putin, it should be clear that this global effort, this international right-wing movement, is positioned to do more damage to us and to our allies than did all the armies of Hitler, Mussolini, Japan, the Kaiser, or Soviet Russia and its satellite states
The Very Real Threat of Right-Wing Leaders Cheering on Trump
Right-wing leaders around the world have rushed to offer their support to convicted felon Donald Trump. Americans should be very worried about what their collective intentions are.
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Dugin with his two bob’s worth
Trust the idiots in the US to implode rather than think long term where their nation is heading towards their greatest economic growth in their history regardless of who is in power. They shouldn't even need to concern themselves with being the world police as they aim to de-globalize themselves from the world markets.
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Those names. So surprised…not.
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‘India has rejected Modi’s rhetoric’: British Indians react to election result
Those living in UK express surprise but hope loss of outright majority will be a turning point in Modi’s premiership
British Indians living across the UK have expressed surprise at the election results in India, with some hoping it will signal a change in the direction of the country.
Narendra Modi returned to power for a historic third term as prime minister, in an election with voting staggered across six weeks and more than 600 million Indians heading to the polls – the biggest exercise of democracy the world has ever seen.
For many, the results signalled a significant turning point in Modi’s premiership after the ruling Bharatiya Janata party (BJP) was unable to win an outright majority and the Congress party-led INDIA opposition alliance defied exit polls.
A BJP-led coalition, the National Democratic Alliance (NDA), has since secured a majority in India’s 543-seat Lok Sabha, marking the first time Modi will have to govern the country in coalition.
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2024 Indian general election - Wikipedia
More than 968 million people out of a population of 1.4 billion people were eligible to vote, equivalent to 70 percent of the total population.[5][6][7] 642 million voters participated in the election and 312 million of them were women, making it the highest ever participation by women voters.[8][9] This was the largest-ever election, surpassing the previous election, and lasted 44 days, second only to the 1951–52 Indian general election.
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| Leader | Narendra Modi | Mallikarjun Kharge |
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| Party | BJP | INC |
| Alliance | NDA | INDIA |
| Leader since | 12 September 2013 | 26 October 2022 |
| Leader's seat | Varanasi | Karnataka (Rajya Sabha) |
| Last election | 37.36%, 303 seats | 19.49%, 52 seats |
| Seats won | 240 | 99 |
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| Popular vote | 235,973,935 | 136,759,064 |
| Percentage | 36.56% | 21.19% |
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| Alliance seats | 293 | 234 |
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| Alliance percentage | 42.5% | 40.6% |
272 seats is a majority.
It will be interesting to watch how Modi handles being in coalition rather than having outright power and driving thru social, and economic reform compared to the previous decade.
