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Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

Is this the best thread ever and the other poxy international thread should be closed

  • Yes because I’m a winner

    Votes: 9 90.0%
  • No because I’m a loser

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • Total voters
    10

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Why did you completely ignore H.R.2 that was passed a year earlier and killed by the senate democrats and was far more of a border security bill than the rubbish put together by RINO langford and the democrats. No matter how many times you want to lie and say tbe border is trumps fault, history and facts smack you in the face on it

So I just read up into HR2.

Ok so on its merits it was a tough bill and it would have seriously slowed down illegal immigration. I get it. But based on what I read it was the affect on those seeking asylum.

So 1st things first I will explain my experiences with the USA Government. During Covid and even up until 2022, 2023 many government departments that worked face to face with people were all but running on skeleton staff and were appointment based only. Many appointments just to see someone were at least 12 months and thats even if the phone rings. You cant even enter the building without an appointment.

So based on what I read, this was one of the primary concerns. It was voted down and a different bill was created. Which is the one Trump killed.

To my understanding, the democrats wanted to be open for asylum seekers but totally underestimated on the amount of people who would seek to take advantage of that and it blew the system apart. No doubt they shit the bed and no one is denying that. The right bill though was the one in Feb that Trump killed that was viewed to have good processing terms for genuine asylum seekers. HR2 while good on the surface was brutally tough. I guess it depends on the goal. If you want to end anyone crossing the borders even to seek asylum HR2 was the one.

The USA has always been a haven for asylum seekers hence the sanctuary cities who were always willing to help. This only changed under Trump. I dont think its right for us foreigners to tell the USA how to handle their business when it comes to asylum issues. But obviously we can discuss which one fits in with the long term goals of accepting asylum seekers in a timely manner and dealing with illegals within those goals.

So now its your turn! Tell me about Trumps dismissal of the border bill.
 
The left taking it real badly..




Far left taking it badly but so are the right. Many people are now realizing the affect off tariffs. Playstation 5s are now tipped to go for over $1000k US Dollars once Trump starts bringing in tariffs. There are reports of MAGA voters complaining about losing their jobs as companies are making cuts in preparation for higher operating costs. Many suppliers who import goods to the USA are now refusing to sign contracts for next year with businesses under current price structures. Most of them are now saying they will send new price lists in Spring (March-April).

Many retailers are now seeking to bulk buy up as much as possible before Tariffs come in. A lot of exporters are begging companies in China and others to also bulk buy from USA companies before revenge tariffs come in. Just a reality.

Just saw a stat that undocumented workers in the USA paid $96Billion Dollars into social security and medicare. Because they dont have documents they dont get this money back.

Everything reads real well for tax cuts and cheaper cost of living.
 
Which I agree with - literally the next sentence in the post you quoted.

I’m not sure why you would assume that just because they have buyer’s remorse about this administration that they won’t have it for the next one, or that they didn’t for the previous 2-3 (Democrat & Republican).

As I said, this isn’t just one election cycle, there has been a 15+ year erosion in economic equality and living standards for working class Americans that kicked off with the GFC and was compounded by COVID. We’ve had the same story here in Australia, and in many other developed countries. History is littered with examples of populist leaders and the far right picking up votes from people who want to protest a system that is failing them.

Trump sold a more compelling message of change to fix that system than Harris did, that’s self evident. Will he though?



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Happy for you to bookmark this, or maybe you could share examples of his achievements for working class Americans from his first term given there is ‘plenty of evidence’.

Trump supporters dont truly understand that he benefited from a protest vote over the illegal immigration and the economy. The fact many of his high up members are now saying the USA endorsed his mandate. Clearly they have miss read the room. If he governs and listens to the people and makes life better like MAGA believe then he has no problems. But Tariffs and mass deportations will skyrocket the cost of living which will seriously hurt his favourability.

But we know Biden will be blamed for it all.
 
Ive seen a few posts going around about how family members are being disowned because they voted for Trump and friendships being ruined.

Having lost my mum to cancer, I have known life is short for a long time and its definitely too short to let politics get in the way of cherished relationships. This isnt a political post and dont want it to turn into a troll fest. But just thought Id share it as i can certainly guarantee everyone who let politics get in the way of friends and family will forever regret it. Just like id never let it come between friendships on here. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion and no ones is more right or wrong than anyone elses.

Its Christmas, and I hope everyone has a blast!
 

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Doesn’t appear to be any form of respect for Trump from Putin here. The main TV channel in Russia (Fox News equivalent) mocking Melania, showing her previous “glamorous” and nude photos and laughing at her in recent days.

Who owns who here…..



So Trumpy fans - your views on Ukraine? Happy to cede to Putin the occupied lands in the east of Ukraine? Let Putin win? And then in a year or 2 if he decides Poland or Estonia is next in line to be invaded and a war started - happy with that? Where does it stop? Taking back 15-20 (or whatever the actual number is) ex USSR countries

No going quiet now
 
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Can I now grift off of a stolen election?? 😂

I believe that is how it works??

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Do you think there is any validity in this statement AmericanCrow?
Dems do seem fairly inhibited ie ‘when they go low we go high’ type of thing?
Do you believe Kamala being a woman was a big part of her problem?
Or would have Michele Obama done any better?
Or is the level of disinformation so high about how Trump is for the people that not much would have improved things for the Dems?

 
Do you think there is any validity in this statement AmericanCrow?
Dems do seem fairly inhibited ie ‘when they go low we go high’ type of thing?
Do you believe Kamala being a woman was a big part of her problem?
Or would have Michele Obama done any better?
Or is the level of disinformation so high about how Trump is for the people that not much would have improved things for the Dems?


Once my race is officially over, I will give my opinion based on everything I saw and did, along with my interactions with other campaigns up the ballot.
 

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I didn't, he knows who I was referring to.
so its a 'he' you think. ok for what its worth i have never reported ANY Crows followers post - inc yourself.

Only 1-2 x to Mods for another clubs troll on our board so that will help you eliminate another suspect (Cluedo like)
 
so its a 'he' you think. ok for what its worth i have never reported ANY Crows followers post - inc yourself.

Only 1-2 x to Mods for another clubs troll on our board so that will help you eliminate another suspect (Cluedo like)
The cosplay farmer isn't particularly brave, he's blaming me.

But its a pretty good reflection on his character that he won't take responsibility for his own actions. But i don't think anyone who has read his posts are particularly suprised.
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The cosplay farmer isn't particularly brave, he's blaming me.

But its a pretty good reflection on his character that he won't take responsibility for his own actions. But i don't think anyone who has read his posts are particularly suprised.
to be honest mate, i havent been following this thread for that long and dont understand all the history etc. and actually dont really want to understand the different poster dynamics as it adds ZERO value to life

bicks adds immense value in terms of young player analysis and thoughts, ideas, posting articles on main footy board IMO. also seems to have a vitriolic side though which i cant relate to and life is too short to be having 'enemies' on the fn internet - esp when we all follow the same team but may have opposing views on the US election. No other poster has been as consistently disrespectful to me as Bicks has been in recent weeks and admit I 'snapped' once and wrote something back to him which isnt my normal self. i got pulled down to a level i dont want to play in

anyway, sick of the continual disrespect of being laughed at so thought i would clarify for his sake to help him sleep at night - perhaps i shouldnt have bothered as per my initial thoughts

have a good day
 
to be honest mate, i havent been following this thread for that long and dont understand all the history etc. and actually dont really want to understand the different poster dynamics as it adds ZERO value to life

bicks adds immense value in terms of young player analysis and thoughts, ideas, posting articles on main footy board IMO. also seems to have a vitriolic side though which i cant relate to and life is too short to be having 'enemies' on the fn internet - esp when we all follow the same team but may have opposing views on the US election. No other poster has been as consistently disrespectful to me as Bicks has been in recent weeks and admit I 'snapped' once and wrote something back to him which isnt my normal self. i got pulled down to a level i dont want to play in

anyway, sick of the continual disrespect of being laughed at so thought i would clarify for his sake to help him sleep at night - perhaps i shouldnt have bothered as per my initial thoughts

have a good day
You are fine. The laugh emoji is the calling card of a few trolls. But you get used to it.

I remember a few years ago they banned someone for over using the emojis

Pre season starts soon! Bring it on!
 

On actual international news , been following this, really wanted to see how it would go and if he could turn Argentina around.

Seems to be working, although no idea how he deals with the poverty levels, you wouldn't want them to become generational
 

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If they had’ve just kept Trump’s policies in place, there would’ve been nothing to do. Literally nothing.

Right out of the gate, Biden took 89 executive actions reversing Trump’s immigration policies.


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