Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

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just ignore him, he will run back to his echo chamber quick smart.

You do realise that you are complaining about an echo chamber from within an echo chamber.

Both sides on the BF Adelaide board are making statements from their safe space that they cant back up.

You yourself complain about name calling in the other thread yet it goes on without comment here.
 
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You do realise that you are complaining about an echo chamber from within an echo chamber.

Both sides on the BF Adelaide board are making statements from their safe space that they cant back up.

You yourself complain about name calling in the other thread yet it goes on without comment here.
They are welcome to post in here. And the name calling is worse in the Maga thread.

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Run for the hills they're coming for ya....
You are such a ****knuckle sometimes. They are not coming for me. But they will be coming for some. This is going to be a very dark period in US history. I feel for women, LGBTQI and minorities. And the worst thing is? It will happen here too if Mutton et al gets their way.
 

It's hard to believe these people are actually overly concerned about fighting child predators when they keep hiring people like this.


And very much going in on celebrity appeal at the cost of strong evidenced based credentials.

Oprah has a lot to answer for. Hopefully Dr. Phil isn't next.
 
Not for me. But they will be coming for some. This is going to be a very dark period in US history. I feel for women, LGBTQI and minorities. And the worst thing is? It will happen here too if Mutton et al gets their way.

MAGA is the gift that keeps on giving!

Be afraid of the protest vote against Albo. High cost of living and Albos penchant for appearing to not give a shit is likely to lose him the election if it hasnt already.
 
You are such a ****knuckle sometimes. They are not coming for me. But they will be coming for some. This is going to be a very dark period in US history. I feel for women, LGBTQI and minorities. And the worst thing is? It will happen here too if Mutton et al gets their way.
OK won't call you Henny Penny anymore in your TDS...drama queen might be a better fit.

Maybe wait and see would be much wiser and smarter move rather than being fixated like you are so obviously.
 
OK won't call you Henny Penny anymore in your TDS...drama queen might be a better fit.

Maybe wait and see would be much wiser and smarter move rather than being fixated like you are so obviously.
He's talking about calling a national emergency so he can use the military to "round up illegals". It's already happening, we don't need to "wait and see". You happy for them to do that? Round up folk and send them to god knows where? Using military force? They won't know what's hit them when they've got nobody to harvest their crops or serve their food.
 
To bring this thread back to an evidence base - the scientific consensus on a few topics that tend to come up:

I'm not an expert here so may be off on some things, happy to be corrected. I'm sure people will disagree on some of these points but I'd be interested if anyone is suggesting i have got the general view of active researchers in the field wrong. I'm aware there are some researchers or academics from other fields you can find saying different things.

COVID almost certainly did not leak from a lab, most likely it originated in a wet market. Following this through the media it would seem like this is one that has flip-flopped all over the place but in reality researchers in the field have been pretty consistent about this from the start, becoming more confident as they investigated the possibility.

Implicit bias is a real thing, although tests aren't overly reliable (if you take it twice you might well get different results), and any link to behaviour is small. The corporate training offered by people like Robin DiAngelo in the states don't have a lot of evidence of achieveing much.

Flouride is fine, it helps with your teeth. There is water where the levels need to be lowered due to natural occuring flouride, the levels in your tap water are safe.

Jonathan Haidt has really popularised the idea that social media is an existential threat to youth, researchers in the field tend to think he is stretching the evidence further than it wants to go. While there are negative effects to mental health they are relatively small.

Vaccines don't cause Autism.

Chemtrails aren't a real concern.

Seed oils are fine.

Trans people are real and benefit from gender affirming care. Trans kids are real and one of the biggest predictors of their mental health is whether family, friends, community are accepting of their identity.

Climate change is real and a problem, the 1.5 degree number that gets thrown around was a target but not neccesarilly the point where everything becomes a catastrophe. In general less emmissions will buy time and opportunity to plan for effects.

Renewables can in future provide 100% of energy we need. I think around 2050 is the estimate.

Sweden's reluctance to lockdown approach did come at the expense of lives lost.


mortality differences declined over time to about 30% higher mortality in Sweden after 30 months with pandemics.


The excess mortality in Sweden was thus higher than that in the three neighboring Nordic countries (2, 3, and 26/100,000), partly explained by a higher initial COVID-19 transmission


The Swedish COVID-19 Commission felt that earlier and more extensive pandemic action should have been taken, particularly during the first wave

COVID vaccines have saved tens of millions of lives across the globe.


Based on reported COVID‐19 deaths, vaccinations prevented an estimated 14.4 million deaths (95% credible interval [Crl] 13.7–15.9) from COVID‐19 in a year. However, if excess deaths were used, this estimate rose to 19.8 million (95% Crl 19.1–20.4) deaths prevented (Fig. 1), equating to a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19.8 million of 31.4 million) during the first year of COVID‐19 vaccination. Delivery of vaccines to low‐income countries has been far lower than promised.

I think people are right to be skeptical of big companies like Pfizer and their profit motive, but I think people tend to look in the wrong direction. IP protection limited acces to vaccines in developing countries which undoubtedly led to unneccessary death. I can even invoke Bill Gates as the boogeyman here for what these companies should actually be criticised for:


Gates wanted exclusive rights maintained. He acted fast to stop the push for sharing the knowledge needed to make the products

One year later, the ACT-Accelerator has failed to meet its goal of providing discounted vaccines to the “priority fifth” of low-income populations. The drug companies and rich nations that had so much praise for the initiative a year ago have retreated into bilateral deals that leave little for anybody else. “The low- and middle-income countries are pretty much on their own, and there’s just not much out there,”

FWIW things like this are why I feel wealth inequality is a bigger threat to the spirit of free speech and democracy than decisions compainies like twitter make around censorship although I'm not saying that has no importance. It's clear you can buy more free speech than others have, when important decisions are made there's a seat at the table that can be bought.
 
He's talking about calling a national emergency so he can use the military to "round up illegals". It's already happening, we don't need to "wait and see". You happy for them to do that? Round up folk and send them to god knows where? Using military force? They won't know what's hit them when they've got nobody to harvest their crops or serve their food.
How is it already happening exactly?

He doesn't take up office Until January.

If it's already happening that's on the Biden Administration's say so.

Bit late for that now they just go rissoled.
 
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Soon. Just waiting for it and watching it unfold. It is going to be a shit show of epic proportions.
I wouldn't think so. There are too many laws and procedures and intelligent Republicans that will prevent it from being a shit show.

I'm now more intrigued than aghast at the possible changes.

Let's see if Trump can actuate all his proclamations like ending the Israel Hamas Hezbollah Russia/Ukraine conflicts for example, because the Biden admin couldn't end them, albeit the current conflicts are still reasonably young and although there is a Biden admin proposal at work, nothing's come of it as yet.

What he does at home with tariffs for example is none of our business. It will affect us down the road but does the US have to be obliged to protect other countries' economies before its own?

What he does with health, deportation of illegal immigrants, abortion laws etc in the US might be against a person's political and personal beliefs but the majority of Americans voted for this.

I personally think he's a hideous clown...and worse, but I blame the left for how far they were pushing their 'woke' ideals. The Republican candidate was always going win IMO regardless of the idiot they had as their candidate.
 
To bring this thread back to an evidence base - the scientific consensus on a few topics that tend to come up:

I'm not an expert here so may be off on some things, happy to be corrected. I'm sure people will disagree on some of these points but I'd be interested if anyone is suggesting i have got the general view of active researchers in the field wrong. I'm aware there are some researchers or academics from other fields you can find saying different things.

COVID almost certainly did not leak from a lab, most likely it originated in a wet market. Following this through the media it would seem like this is one that has flip-flopped all over the place but in reality researchers in the field have been pretty consistent about this from the start, becoming more confident as they investigated the possibility.

Implicit bias is a real thing, although tests aren't overly reliable (if you take it twice you might well get different results), and any link to behaviour is small. The corporate training offered by people like Robin DiAngelo in the states don't have a lot of evidence of achieveing much.

Flouride is fine, it helps with your teeth. There is water where the levels need to be lowered due to natural occuring flouride, the levels in your tap water are safe.

Jonathan Haidt has really popularised the idea that social media is an existential threat to youth, researchers in the field tend to think he is stretching the evidence further than it wants to go. While there are negative effects to mental health they are relatively small.

Vaccines don't cause Autism.

Chemtrails aren't a real concern.

Seed oils are fine.

Trans people are real and benefit from gender affirming care. Trans kids are real and one of the biggest predictors of their mental health is whether family, friends, community are accepting of their identity.

Climate change is real and a problem, the 1.5 degree number that gets thrown around was a target but not neccesarilly the point where everything becomes a catastrophe. In general less emmissions will buy time and opportunity to plan for effects.

Renewables can in future provide 100% of energy we need. I think around 2050 is the estimate.

Sweden's reluctance to lockdown approach did come at the expense of lives lost.










COVID vaccines have saved tens of millions of lives across the globe.




I think people are right to be skeptical of big companies like Pfizer and their profit motive, but I think people tend to look in the wrong direction. IP protection limited acces to vaccines in developing countries which undoubtedly led to unneccessary death. I can even invoke Bill Gates as the boogeyman here for what these companies should actually be criticised for:






FWIW things like this are why I feel wealth inequality is a bigger threat to the spirit of free speech and democracy than decisions compainies like twitter make around censorship although I'm not saying that has no importance. It's clear you can buy more free speech than others have, when important decisions are made there's a seat at the table that can be bought.
Unless a far better storage option than batteries is forthcoming there is zero chance that Australia will reach that target by 2050.

Only difference will be the more expensive gas and other fossil fuels will replace coal totally.

Likely outcome energy prices will continue to rise.
 
Unless a far better storage option than batteries is forthcoming there is zero chance that Australia will reach that target by 2050.

Only difference will be the more expensive gas and other fossil fuels will replace coal totally.

Likely outcome energy prices will continue to rise.
The difference is that gas is only used when needed, whereas coal generators need to be kept running 24/7. So, while gas is more expensive, it's only being used for 1-2 hours per day, with renewables covering the load for the rest of the time.
 
The difference is that gas is only used when needed, whereas coal generators need to be kept running 24/7. So, while gas is more expensive, it's only being used for 1-2 hours per day, with renewables covering the load for the rest of the time.
1 to 2 hours...pull the other one it's got bells on it.
 
He's talking about calling a national emergency so he can use the military to "round up illegals". It's already happening, we don't need to "wait and see". You happy for them to do that? Round up folk and send them to god knows where? Using military force? They won't know what's hit them when they've got nobody to harvest their crops or serve their food.
Didn't they come from somewhere to be illegals?:fearscream:

So, the only reason you want them is they work for poverty wages. American don't know how to harvest food and serve food. :think:

You don't want them to round up the criminals or illegals from countries that may cause harm to Americans?
 

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