So the year before, his body couldn't take the intense training regime. Then in 2012, he could cop the load.
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Investigation into Essendon Fitness Program
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It's more than alleged, he has came out on Monday and basically said, 'I'm a drug cheat'!
Justin Charles steadfastly refused to name the source of his steroids. Reckons when he mentioned it to the AFL the response was, "We'll pretend we didn't hear that." Sounded like the person was either near the top of the food chain or from the underworld.
Without a positive test result, there won't be any sanctions until ASADA complete their investigations process.
Aerial Ping Pong
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It would seem the AFL have put some effort into this but the evidence from the Essendon saga is that whatever they are doing didn't work. Or.... Essendon deliberately ignored all the WADA compliance process put in place by the AFL and set out to deliberately cheat. It's one or the other. Either the AFL WADA compliance and education process was inadequate or Essendon deliberately ignored it to gain an advantage.
I have nothing against Watson, in fact he looks to be the most honest person involved and is clearly a very good player and character.
However, my experience with training partners who take the banned substances is that the improvement in training loads and performance is absolutely dramatic.
There is a very real reason they are banned in sport.
22 games' worth. One of two Essendon players not to miss a match.
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Looks can be deceiving, its those "puppy dog eyes" that makes people assume he is honest. In reality, he is a self confessed drug cheat.
So if player A comes in to ASADA and makes an admission of taking a banned substance 3 months back, he gets to play on for however many months after?
Watson has not admitted to taking a banned substance. he has not admitted the substance is banned. It is up to ASADA to prove that it is, almost certain that they will succeed in doing so, but this does not change the present situation.
Your question has no bearing on this matter, not even remotely the same.
You mean like Ben Cousins? Surprised the AFL hasn't called on the old "bringing the game into disrepute" charge... actually, no I'm not. Typical AFL behaviour to pick and choose to suit their biases. Thankfully ASADA/WADA involvement means it's not going to remain a totally in-house process for the AFL.
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jenny61_99
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No. With a positive sample OR confession, sanctions can be applied immediately. How many athletes would confess to using a prohibited substance though?
Player A is free to play until a sanction is handed down after the investigation. How long that takes varies from case to case.
No. With a positive sample OR confession, sanctions can be applied immediately. How many athletes would confess to using a prohibited substance though?
All of the athletes who would prefer a 6 month ban to a 2 year ban.
That is what I would think. Except others here are saying different.No. With a positive sample OR confession, sanctions can be applied immediately. How many athletes would confess to using a prohibited substance though?
blackshadow
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It's time for the media to get stuck in at the post match media conferences and demand answers.
Hird needs to be challenged and called out publicly. If he says he can't comment that needs to be challenged because he can, it's just that he's chosen not to - whether that is due to spin doctor or legal advice it doesn't mean he can't.
Journalists need to hammer him and demand the truth.
Hopefully we'll get a Colonel Jessup "YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH" type explosion.
No investigation., I'm saying if a player came in to ASADA and admitted to taking a banned substance.
To be fair he is openly admitting to quite possibly taking a substance which is quite possibly prohibited. Not sure he can be suspended for admitting to being suspicious of what he took (or was administered too him). AFL has no choice but to let him continue to play until the official findings come out
I believe him, he's an honest player who has found out his club has betrayed him. He has not been complicit in trying to cover it up.
I think I have a different opinion regarding Reimers than I used to ( before all this started ).
Spike ..... naaah
As far as I know, ASADA have two rule violation processes, one for a positive test result, the other for possible violations.
http://www.asada.gov.au/rules_and_violations/process.html
I haven't seen anything in these processes that claims admission to be a positive test result. I'm happy to be set straight though.
Mr Hird, did you order the Code Red?
Good luck with that. The media is packed with Essendon supporters and apologists, not to mention the AFL's official mouthpiece, SEN.
We're more likely to get a bunch of articles about how brave the bombers have been through this alleged scandal.
haha coming from carlton with Eddie 10/10 Betts the most seasoneed of all divers. Every team has/has had them. Mofries form must have come from all the peptides he has used huh
We have had that so far but I think the wind may just be shifting with Robbo unequivocal in his condemnations yesterday.
And Caro has been waiting her whole life for this story. She doesn't have to beat up sports trivia into hard news with this one, it really is hard news. She will go as hard and as long as it takes, and she will not stop until James Hird gets his due. Chuck in Chairman Jeff to do battle with Chairman Vlad and we have a couple of unlikely champions on the side of truth, justice and the Aussie way. Woo hoo!
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