Is Buckley A Good Coach?

[jathanas]

The senior coach is an important club figure and a legitimate topic of discussion. It's fair to do so and everyone has a right to express their view.

The mod team observed that the thread was dominated by a few protagonists and their points were repeated i.e. 8 years of regression vs marked improvement in 17,18 etc Pretty much everyone with a strong opinion has already expressed it here.

What further degraded discussion was the simplistic "sack FIGJAM" or "he's a legend" type posts.

This thread will remain open. If your view has slightly shifted or you have new thoughts please share. In an effort to encourage quality discussion repetitive statements and circular arguments will from now on be deleted as will silly posts suggesting that we sack a coach on match-day.

FYI Gone Critical Anzacday Maggie5

 

[GreekLunatic]

If Jose mourinho can be sacked so can bucks

 

[HFF]

If Jose mourinho can be sacked so can bucks

Nathan is above reproach
Didnt you know this?

 

[Axl the great]

I realised today that I no longer care whether we win or lose, I used to be so passionate about the club and our players and that real burn in your guts when you lost, and that real hope and optimism when we won and won well.
Now lets be really honest apart from 2 years of Buckley's tenure that feeling of nothingness has engulfed the club, we have accepted mediocrity in all areas of our game plan, issues off the ground, list management, and most of all our coaching panel.

The people who make the decisions have asked us to swallow garbage for the best part of ten years trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes, why?
because it secures their jobs, their place at the club and those around them and too many members and supporters have accepted it for too long, we are the enablers.
Is Bucks a good match day coach? No, is he a good coach? No, the game plan is awful, was awful and has always been awful, people will point to our GF and finals wins, newsflash! this team was stacked with so much talent and ability we got as far as what we did despite the game style and coaching not because of it.
We are talking two good years as well not 10 remember, Half of Big Footy could coach against Bucks and his boys club and be successful, he has a defensive and ultra safe way of coaching in style and set up but asks the players to move the footy in such a manner that turning it over in a matter of time.

Buckley has fooled so many supporters, members, media and administration with clever sounding cliche's and a rambling analysis of everything with stat's to back it up.
The issues in style and movement are a consistent theme of his 10 or so years and not isolated to the last 2 years, those with long memories will agree.
I have nothing personal against the guy, he's a club legend after all but simply put, he could never coach up to the level of most other coaches, the really good ones would have had that list winning flags absolutely no doubt about that.
The club now needs to show some respect to all members and supporters and say "Sorry Bucks, not good enough" and try and get the club back to a position of respectability and demand excellence.
We are Collingwood not bloody North or St Kilda! although you wouldn't know it, 10 years we have been let down by everyone at the place not just Bucks and to see so many supporters actually not really caring or even showing up lies with nobody but the club.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

I says hey ho hey ho.. Nathan Buckley's got to go.. I says hey ho hey ho.. Nathan Buckley's got to go.. I says hey ho hey ho.. Nathan Buckley's got to go.

 

[Chameleon75]

I suspect this thread will still be going in 2031

 

[eddiesmith]

So his loyal band of crazies is down to just 1 Lone Ranger now?

 

[jmac70]

So his loyal band of crazies is down to just 1 Lone Ranger now?

“He helped us, and we don't even know his name. Who was that masked man?"
"Don't you know? He's the Lone Ranger!"

 

[jmac70]

I suspect this thread will still be going in 2031

We’ll have 20 flags by then!

 

[Chameleon75]

We’ll have 20 flags by then!

2 flags a year?

Na suspect the debate will be much the same, we made a gf once.

 

[Maggie5]

So his loyal band of crazies is down to just 1 Lone Ranger now?

Nope.

 

[jmac70]

Nope.

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I just don’t get the hate against him Maggie. He’s given so much to the club.
Yeah, he probably won’t be coach next year. But why are people so disrespectful?

 

[Maggie5]

I just don’t get the hate against him Maggie. He’s given so much to the club.
Yeah, he probably won’t be coach next year. But why are people so disrespectful?

I have been on here since 2010 and lurking previous years. I too don't get it.

Sure he has made mistakes but the dislike is strange although I think some still hang on to the MM years and can't forgive him for not standing down and giving MM another year or two.

 

[MightyPage025]

100% agree Buckley must go but imagine the meltdowns on here if Buckley gets contract extension

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

100% agree Buckley must go but imagine the meltdowns on here if Buckley gets contract extension

I think the BF servers would crash

 

[jmac70]

100% agree Buckley must go but imagine the meltdowns on here if Buckley gets contract extension

Would be so good.

 

[PIEWITHSAUCE]

Clarko couldn't even coach his team to a single point in the first quarter today. Not trying to make any point with that observation but just struck me in terms of the current discussions around the influence of head coaches on match day.

 

[Daicos Torpedo]

What really bites for me is what he said this week.
Something along the lines of " if I still had a 2 year to go on my contact I would still be coaching the same "
The definition of insanity

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

What really bites for me is what he said this week.
Something along the lines of " if I still had a 2 year to go on my contact I would still be coaching the same "
The definition of insanity

That quote got my attention as well.

Just proves he has to go.

 

[eddiesmith]

I think the BF servers would crash

Forget BF servers, the whatever our hq is called now would not be left standing.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

What really bites for me is what he said this week.
Something along the lines of " if I still had a 2 year to go on my contact I would still be coaching the same "
The definition of insanity

That sent shivers up my spine as well.....

 

[Carringbush2010]

I just don’t get the hate against him Maggie. He’s given so much to the club.
Yeah, he probably won’t be coach next year. But why are people so disrespectful?

There's not many if any that hate Nathan, the hate is how the team is / has performed under him. The disrespect is called being emotional and human, understandably so.

 

[stormskye]

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

There's not many if any that hate Nathan, the hate is how the team is / has performed under him. The disrespect is called being emotional and human, understandably so.

It's frustration that nothing changes rather than hate.

 

[foreigner]

Fan Boy! Man I love this sh*t, so awesome.

Fan boy? I think he is Buckley himself. No one else can have his head so much hidden in the sand not to see reality

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

I don’t hate Nathan and I never will.

Doesn’t mean I have to tolerate his coaching any longer than we need to.