Is North Melbourne culture in danger of being eroded?

[Blight von Torp]

The new facilities are waay too good for my liking. What was that Denis Pagan quote about a weight weighing the same at Arden St as wherever? Well that's a thing of the past. No longer can we look on in disgust at the pampered players of Collingwood, West Coast, Adelaide, and other franchises. North Melbourne players better not go soft over this. If I had designed the place, there would have been a few intentional privations just to keep the players feet on the ground. You might think I'm joking, but it's a very serious matter.

 

[Bigeasy]

The new facilities are waay too good for my liking. What was that Denis Pagan quote about a weight weighing the same at Arden St as wherever? Well that's a thing of the past. No longer can we look on in disgust at the pampered players of Collingwood, West Coast, Adelaide, and other franchises. North Melbourne players better not go soft over this. If I had designed the place, there would have been a few intentional privations just to keep the players feet on the ground. You might think I'm joking, but it's a very serious matter.

Where was you tongue when you wrote this. Left?, Right cheek? Or up someones arse?

 

[Roos4eva]

Yes, it would be absolutely pissweak to allow the players and staff to enjoy the benefits of living in the 21st Century.

 

[snrub]

The new facilities are waay too good for my liking. What was that Denis Pagan quote about a weight weighing the same at Arden St as wherever? Well that's a thing of the past. No longer can we look on in disgust at the pampered players of Collingwood, West Coast, Adelaide, and other franchises. North Melbourne players better not go soft over this. If I had designed the place, there would have been a few intentional privations just to keep the players feet on the ground. You might think I'm joking, but it's a very serious matter.

I'll continue to think you're joking because the alternative does not reflect well quite frankly.

 

[roobear]

Yes, it would be absolutely pissweak to allow the players and staff to enjoy the benefits of living in the 21st Century.

Yep. If I hear there's hot water in the showers I'll be frickin livid.

 

[Juryduty]

Yep. If I hear there's hot water in the showers I'll be frickin livid.

You mean this new facility has hot water, thats it I'm writing a letter to express my disgust.

 

[Sandgroper35]

Does the country boy lose a bit of his character when he moves to the big city? Probably. It's the price you pay for success. There is nothing we can do about it unfortunately. Our time as battlers is up, it's time to start populating that trophy cabinet.

 

[Event Horizon]

I can see the point of the OP, but it is time to move on from the old crap we've been used to.
I had the same thought when I was building a house for my family - thinking how spoiled my kids could become in comparison with how I grew up, sharing a 2 room flat with 2 families while sleeping in a foldable armchair until I was 10. But in the end I am happy that my kids can have a better life. There are other ways to keep one's feet on the ground, other than crap facilities.

 

[Radical Roo]

mate this is not a rocky baboa film where after he got rich, he become complacent. We cant afford to be complacent cos we have to pay off the cost of the facility don't forget and that wot 16 millions.

 

[Rippednew1]

The issue is with moving away from the shinboner.
The leader of the club needs to ensure this isn't being done for reasons other than the image of the club.
The spirit is a very good asset to have and requires tweaking rather than killing which was the previous agenda.
The facilities and admin we have plus a few budding stars will sort out the negative connotations of shinboner and decent media management by Bon will have the media in it's place soon enough.
Keep the spirit it's a big part of the club and an advantage.
Kill the spirit and we could end up on the Gold Coast next time a CEO wants to cull Melbourne teams, or closer to the rabble at punt road.

 

[Blight von Torp]

I'll continue to think you're joking because the alternative does not reflect well quite frankly.

What are you talking about. Carey, Archer, Stevens and co won 2 Flags in the 90s, so I don't see why the current team deserve better facilities!!

But even if I was joking, perhaps every year there should be a month of austerity and deprivation in reverence to the North Melbourne's glorious past.

 

[Wells Now Williams Fan]

In 2 weeks it will be the year 2010 fool......Not 1996

Get ya head out of your arse....Football's changed...The world has changed...

 

[Only Forwards]

What are you talking about. Carey, Archer, Stevens and co won 2 Flags in the 90s, so I don't see why the current team deserve better facilities!!

But even if I was joking, perhaps every year there should be a month of austerity and deprivation in reverence to the North Melbourne's glorious past.

Firstly when they opened up what was left of the old facilities did you go and have a look?

The current group of players and what they have achieved probably don't "deserve" new facilities. But do you really think that was a consideration when they built them?

I think that its a matter of knowing that you need to build for the future. That the facilities they have now give them a base to work from for the next decade or longer. In 2015 how successful do you think the side would be if they were using the same facilities as our 1975 premiership side? Facilities potentially outdated by 40 years.

The idea that the new building will have negative outcomes on the current playing group I find extremely hard to fathom.

If anything I would have thought that it will drive the playing group harder. Every player on the list with the exception of this years draftees has trained in the old rooms.

Maybe I am reading it wrong but from what media I have seen Brad Scott's mandate is to rid the club of the tag struggler while maintaining the attributes that have made NMFC so very hard for the AFL/VFL to get rid of over our history.

 

[Jacksy]

Somewhere a village is missing an idiot!

 

[Harvs29]

The new facilities are waay too good for my liking. What was that Denis Pagan quote about a weight weighing the same at Arden St as wherever? Well that's a thing of the past.

I've it on good authority that Arch has picked up the dumbbell's in the new gym and has confirmed that the weights at North Melbourne weigh the same as the ones in the older gym down at Lexus.

 

[utility]

Culture is about people. I look at our board, our executive team, our football department, and our players and am confident in the future successes of the North Melbourne Football Club.

 

[RoyalBlue]

Of the people who went and had a look at the old facilities, I want to know if I am the only one who thought that the Age scribes were being charitable when they called them 'dilapidated' ?

 

[Blight von Torp]

Of the people who went and had a look at the old facilities, I want to know if I am the only one who thought that the Age scribes were being charitable when they called them 'dilapidated' ?

Luxury! You should have seen what the facilities looked like when Les Foote and co were good enough to make the GF in 1950.

 

[Groggyk]

You should have let the last one slide Torpy.

Ya can't land a whale in ten minutes.

It takes cunning and patience.

 

[Blight von Torp]

^^^
I guess I'm still in the amateur section.

 

[snapperbowler]

The true culture of the North Melbourne football club will never be eroded.

Between 1925-1974 we had never won a premiership. The club made decisions that changed that. These changes changed the way that the NMFC was viewed. We were no longer viewed as easy beats suddenly we were respected.

The new facilities has again had the same effect. We are no longer viewed as a club with the most disadvantaged facilities. Clubs are jealous of us.

This is a result of the adminsitration having the guts and determination to make improvements.

Now that guts and determination is not disimiliar to what the NMFC is all about.

 

[RoyalBlue]

Luxury! You should have seen what the facilities looked like when Les Foote and co were good enough to make the GF in 1950.

I'm not taking the bait.

 

[fairdinkum]

So long as we don't put anybody resembling Daisy Thomas in our 'Legends Photo', I don't think we have to worry about our 'culture'.

 

[B-Rock]

So long as we don't put anybody resembling Daisy Thomas in our 'Legends Photo', I don't think we have to worry about our 'culture'.

Sam Wright could be in trouble.

 

[pmad87]

While perhaps it could have been expressed a little better, i understand the point of the OP.

It has to be reinforced that a High Performance Club with good facilities and a proud club history of which the shinboner spirit is a part are not mutually exclusive.

It is sometimes tiresome when a commentator or journalist either calls us "The Kangaroos" and gets 1000 calls telling him that we are "the North Melbourne Football Club" or after an exciting win uses the term "Shinboner Spirit" and gets the same people telling him that we actually have a good list.

We have to end this now.

We are the North Melbourne Kangaroos Football Club.

We are a high performance club AND we are shinboners.