I think people get sucked in by slow motion replays and frame by frames, they lose perspective of the split second nature of the incident.
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I'm suggesting that it is in dispute.And you clowns state that he bumped Lynch like it is an irrefutable fact.
People in glass houses and all that......
Does anyone know what time the Tribunal starts tonight?
I fear you are right. I'm not really subscribing to bump vs brace argument as I think they are the same thing. Viney never really stopped, he slowed down and changed direction towards Lynch and Georgiou and at some point realised that he could not contest the ball and turned and braced with his shoulder. Unfortunately for Lynch his momentum from Georgiou and pinned arm caused him and Viney to collide and Lynch ending up second best with Georgiou shortly behind.
The questions is who is at fault and who has to make the decision of what is a safe and not reportable course of action. I know when I play sport it is 95% instinct and muscle memory at all times and very rarely do I have time to access things with logic. The AFL are obviously trying to make players a lot more accountable without taking this into account and drive the game into a safer place whilst somehow keeping the physicality.
Either players need to learn to adapt and change their play style or the AFL need to tweak their rules. At the moment if you bump and someone gets caught high or heads clash you are in trouble. The question in this case is did Viney elect to bump (definition pending)? If so, could he have reasonably foreseen that high actions would have caused this. I would not want to be the Tribunal tonight that is for sure.
For the record I have kept my personal preference for the direction of the game and its rules out of this as I find it irrelevant when discussing the facts of what information we have.
Sorry, I forget the part where I mentioned Douglas in my comment?I've seen a shed load more whinging coming from Camry Crows fans, every second post from Crows fans has been "But, but, but Douglas g g g got f f f four weeks f f f for his h h h hit which w w w was the same. AFL only l l loo looks after Vic clubs"
A bump requires the offending party to take steps to deliberately and/or violently cause a collision. To brace is to steady oneself in order to mitigate the damage from a collision.
Hysterical, illogical Adelaide fans will have you believe that Viney is guilty of the former. The video shows, and Melbourne will argue that Viney did the latter.
I'm suggesting that it is in dispute.
Sorry I forget where I singled you out? Could you point that bit out to me... You know in case I missed it somewhere?Sorry, I forget the part where I mentioned Douglas in my comment?
Sounds logical but is that what you think or is it how the Tribunal sees it?
No and I never claimed to know what he elected to do. Only thing I have stated in this whole thread is that Viney bumped Lynch subsequently ending in a broken jaw.And did he tell you that he DID elect to bump?
Thanks for your incredibly mindless contribution.
Then what exactly was the point of your unlettered and vacuous post?Sorry I forget where I singled you out? Could you point that bit out to me... You know in case I missed it somewhere?
Have you seen the footage or just read this thread?It is absolutely not in dispute if you understand what the word "bump" means and you also undertsand the difference between "bumping" and "bracing."
Did the Jack Viney make any attempt to consciously collide with the Adelaide player? No.
Did Jack Viney brace himself as two players came at him at pace? Yes.
C H A M P A G N E - and technically we have a 50% win loss there after losing to Port in the last game of 2011.champaign. after our great win last weekend where we beat a team at their home ground, resulting in a 100% win ratio there. Yay.
Question to Adelaide fans:
IF (and when) Viney is found not guilty, would you want your club to challenge the finding, or as the REST of the competition would, praise the finding and hope it becomes the standard..?
A bump requires the offending party to take steps to deliberately and/or violently cause a collision. To brace is to steady oneself in order to mitigate the damage from a collision.
Hysterical, illogical Adelaide fans will have you believe that Viney is guilty of the former. The video shows, and Melbourne will argue that Viney did the latter.
Perhaps you should re-read it?Then what exactly was the point of your unlettered and vacuous post?
I could read that post another 1000 times and it'd still be the pathetic school boy ramblings which drag this website to new depths.Perhaps you should re-read it?
As opposed to the playground antics of "But he got this and I didn't and it's not faaaaaiiirrrrrI could read that post another 1000 times and it'd still be the pathetic school boy ramblings which drag this website to new depths.
A tackle leading with the shoulder isn't the same as a shoulder charge. Watch any straight hit up in league and how the defender tackles. Head to the side, shoulder first point of contact. Again, you would never lead with your chest to tackle someone.
Not against Port (2011)..sorry to rain on your parade. However 100% against the Crowschampaign. after our great win last weekend where we beat a team at their home ground, resulting in a 100% win ratio there. Yay.
Radio's been mentioning Whitecross on Selwood (?) last year being very similar. Anyone got that anywhere?
Yeah, yeah. Found it. Took more hunting than I expected.
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-04-27/gibson-on-report
Gibson got off for this.
Lids goes for a little tickler which hardly touched Stokes and gets TWO WEEKS and he was pushed in the back beforehand(no free of course and then reacts but was in front of Stokes so didn't have intention of knowing where Stokes or whoever was!!!
AFL is a JOKE!
Absolute JOKE!
and Deledio is appealing his week,risking a 2nd week