Jack Martins punch on Blakeys jaw

[Stealth69]

Swinging clenched fist that impacted the upper body ie head and removed a player from most of the first quarter

I can't see how the act was careless and not intentional, because that is not a tackle it's a forceful action that could have had more servere consequences. Very lucky that was Blackey and not Bradshaw.

Take the 2 weeks and run, it was a dog act

 

[HairyO]

So in the space of 2 games "football action" has been expanded to include:

• jumping in the air and droppIng your shoulder on someone's head
• hitting someone in the face with a clenched fist

Is it finals time ?

 

[kreuze_missile]

Martin will play this week.

Carlton legal team never loses.

 

[Skull Face]

So in the space of 2 games "football action" has been expanded to include:

• jumping in the air and droppIng your shoulder on someone's head
• hitting someone in the face with a clenched fist

Is it finals time ?

The problem is the bloke who is running the show wants max penalty for 1 and wanted the other guy off without it even getting looked at, If this doesn't paint the picture of the clear bias in Christians decision making process and see him turfed out I don't know what will.

 

[eddiesmith]

So in the space of 2 games "football action" has been expanded to include:

• jumping in the air and droppIng your shoulder on someone's head
• hitting someone in the face with a clenched fist

Is it finals time ?

Attempting a smother is a football action, the second is just Carlton fans being smart asses.

 

[HairyO]

Attempting a smother is a football action, the second is just Carlton fans being smart asses.

A tackle is a football action. The tackle didnt go properly and someone got punched in the face.

Kinda like a smother is a football action. The smother didnt go properly and someone had a shoulder dropped on their head.

Both could have been done properly, but were not done properly. And they should be punished.

 

[HarryBeef]

Carlton fans getting salty when one of their players gets weeks for a swinging arm that hit someone in the jaw. He wasn't even looking at the ball. It was weak as piss.

Reckon it was no worse than the Van Rooyen one on one of your blokes, should be the 1 like his.

 

[eddiesmith]

Reckon it was no worse than the Van Rooyen one on one of your blokes, should be the 1 like his.

Van Rooyen should be 2, but that can’t happen with the Melbourne supporter overruling the MRO.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Blakey with his head over the ball. Martin with no eyes for the ball, solely intent on striking Blakey in the head with a first. What a cowardly act.

2 weeks is a farce. An intentional strike to the head should be at least 3 weeks.

 

[Thrawn]

Blakey with his head over the ball. Martin with no eyes for the ball, solely intent on striking Blakey in the head with a first. What a cowardly act.

2 weeks is a farce. An intentional strike to the head should be at least 3 weeks.

Most people are saying it's worth a week and point to the Van Rooyen incident as precedent.

You're only saying 3+ weeks because you seem to be obsessed death-riding us, which seems to be a common trend with you.

Also conspicuously absent in the Maynard thread where his action was objectively worse, so it's not that you really care about dog acts hey?

You're like Fadge-lite. Just hilarious.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Most people are saying it's worth a week and point to the Van Rooyen incident as precedent.

JVR should have been more than a week.

You're only saying 3+ weeks because you seem to be obsessed death-riding us, which seems to be a common trend with you.

It should be 3+ weeks because it was an intentional strike to the head with a fist that the aggrieved didn't see coming. It's these acts that the AFL wants stamped out to avoid any lawsuits against them, or worse.

Are you not aware how David Hookes died?

Just hilarious.

What's hilarious is how you think I give 2 shits about Carlton.

The obsession is with you replying to my posts.

 

[Pie eyed]

Attempted smother, nothing in it.


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ROFL.
Give him the chair.
Visy criminal.

 

[Thrawn]

What's hilarious is how you think I give 2 shits about Carlton.

The obsession is with you replying to my posts.

Absolutely you do, otherwise you wouldn't be doing a Fadge-lite.

It's these acts that the AFL wants stamped out to avoid any lawsuits against them, or worse.

I don't see any post condemning Maynard's act, which was worse. Save me the crocodile tears.

Are you not aware how David Hookes died?

David Hookes didn't die by getting his jaw hit in a game of football. What the hell is this analogy?

 

[Gavin Excell]

Surely the dodgy Carlton lawyers won't win again this time

 

[Libba39]

This is a classic 2-3 weeker. I don't even know why people are debating it.

He's just lucky there was no broken jaw or concussion, otherwise its 4-6.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

The problem is the bloke who is running the show wants max penalty for 1 and wanted the other guy off without it even getting looked at, If this doesn't paint the picture of the clear bias in Christians decision making process and see him turfed out I don't know what will.

And gave JVR a week for an intentional elbow.
If it's not incompetence, then the only other conclusion is that it's corrupt.

I'm not even saying that Martin should get off, but if JVR's is a week, then Martin's should be a fine.
If Martin's is 2 weeks, then JVR's should be 3 weeks.

In reality, Martin's should be a week and JVR's 2 weeks.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

JVR should have been more than a week.

Where's your outrage in the JVR thread? Not a single post...

Are you not aware how David Hookes died?

??? This is just a ****ed up comparison. Says more about your Carlton obsession to dive to such depths.

What's hilarious is how you think I give 2 shits about Carlton.

See above two points. Something about the audible volumes of actions vs words...

 

[Skull Face]

Surely the dodgy Carlton lawyers won't win again this time

Our Lawyers aernt that good, Christian just can't hold back in his complete collingwood bias when handing down verdicts on Carlton players which makes it easy enough for any old numpty to beat in court.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Absolutely you do, otherwise you wouldn't be doing a Fadge-lite.

I don't know who or what you're talking about. Nor do I care.

I don't see any post condemning Maynard's act, which was worse. Save me the crocodile tears.

That you think what Maynard did (a football act) is worse than what Martin did (a cowardly dog act) just reinforces
1) how obtuse you are, and
2) how you are so hopelessly blinkered by your Carlton bias

David Hookes didn't die by getting his jaw hit in a game of football. What the hell is this analogy?

he died from an unsuspecting fist to his head. just like Martin dished out. that it was on a football field doesn't make it any less dangerous or relevant.

MRO fumbled this one badly. I hope they challenge and he gets given more weeks.

 

[Skull Face]

I don't know who or what you're talking about. Nor do I care.

That you think what Maynard did (a football act) is worse than what Martin did (a cowardly dog act) just reinforces
1) how obtuse you are, and
2) how you are so hopelessly blinkered by your Carlton bias

he died from an unsuspecting fist to his head. just like Martin dished out. that it was on a football field doesn't make it any less dangerous or relevant.

MRO fumbled this one badly. I hope they challenge and he gets given more weeks.

You are cute

 

[Thrawn]

I don't know who or what you're talking about. Nor do I care.

That you think what Maynard did (a football act) is worse than what Martin did (a cowardly dog act) just reinforces
1) how obtuse you are, and
2) how you are so hopelessly blinkered by your Carlton bias

Given the fact Brayshaw got KOed, yeah, it is objectively worse.

he died from an unsuspecting fist to his head. just like Martin dished out. that it was on a football field doesn't make it any less dangerous or relevant.

MRO fumbled this one badly. I hope they challenge and he gets given more weeks.

Ahaha "just like Martin dished out", if that were the case, Blakey would've been in the hospital or worse. To even use Hookes' death as an attempt to point-score here is just pathetically sad. The two instances aren't even remotely similar.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Blakey with his head over the ball. Martin with no eyes for the ball, solely intent on striking Blakey in the head with a first. What a cowardly act.

2 weeks is a farce. An intentional strike to the head should be at least 3 weeks.

Why on earth would Martin, finally playing in his first finals series, and a normally a ball player, intentially strike an opponent to the head, knowing that risks ending his finals campaign, amongst other things?

He was simply trying to tackle vigorously and he got it wrong, possibly exacerbated by Blakey's total lack of anything resembling shoulders.

Careless seems to me the correct grading, and the 2 week suspension is plenty harsh enough given Blakey was thankfully not injured.

 

[jakson68]

Martin will play this week.

Carlton legal team never loses.

No chance he gets off.

Think it will be reduced to one game though.

I know it isn't a popular opinion but I think missing a final is the same as two H&A games.

 

[ParapMarkets]

So it was careless, high impact, high contact = 2 matches.

He's lucky it wasn't graded as intentional.......

I guess the club will try to argue down the level of impact to medium to get it down to 1 match.

Whatever he ends up with, he deserves a holiday for doing something so dumb. That sort of act doesn't belong in modern footy.

Are there any descriptions of the difference between high and medium impact?
It was certainly careless and high contact, he will definitely get suspended but I guess Carlton will be trying to argue medium impact for a 1 week suspension. There must be some past examples of the difference between the two.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Are there any descriptions of the difference between high and medium impact?
It was certainly careless and high contact, he will definitely get suspended but I guess Carlton will be trying to argue medium impact for a 1 week suspension. There must be some past examples of the difference between the two.

I think you would have to look at cases that were found to be medium and high.

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This one in the VFL of Sonsie was argued by the VFL to be severe impact both at the Tribunal and on appeal, but both Tribunals found it to be high impact. The opponent who was struck, despite his initial reaction looking worrying, was not injured to any significant degree. Sonsie got a week more than Martin due to Sonsie's strike being deliberate v Martin's careless.



Which of the two impacts do you think was stronger?