Jack Viney

[Ron The Bear]

Don't know why that thread was closed.

Yes, players and fans should be voicing in a collective way. Lawyers do not own this game.

However, one or two, or 1000 people not turning up won't be noticed.

I know it won't have an effect. It's like one vote in an election; the only power I have is to withdraw my patronage.

 

[Heisenberg_]

It's not a theory muppet it's fact. You clowns dominate the media and the agenda and SA clubs always get a raw deal.

Fancy that Victorian teams dominate Victorian media, just like in SA the SA teams dominate the media and WA teams dominate the WA media.

I will say it again, drop the ridiculous conspiracy theories because they have absolutely no relevance to the topic.

This is your last warning

 

[ziad]

Viney didn't bump though - he braced. If he'd elected to bump he would have had momentum which he didn't. This is clear when he falls backwards from the contact.

brace, bump, give it a miss the crow had his arms pinned, viney is a professional athlete - my gradmother has enough athletisism to not brace or bump in that situation.

pathetic media reaction but a bunch of ex thugs who love the hear their own voice.

 

[MUYB]

brace, bump, give it a miss the crow had his arms pinned, viney is a professional athlete - my gradmother has enough athletisism to not brace or bump in that situation.

pathetic media reaction but a bunch of ex thugs who love the hear their own voice.

Sorry, your version is not backed up by the rules of the game. The AFL case is based around the "realistic alternative" being for Viney to avoid the contest completely. The rules as written instead reference a "realistic alternative way to contest the ball".

 

[Ted38]

Viney didn't bump though - he braced. If he'd elected to bump he would have had momentum which he didn't. This is clear when he falls backwards from the contact.

You are either blind or stupid or both, he clearly bumped and with intent. Who recovered quickest from the incident and who ended up with the ball?? Have another look.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

MRP

“I said 'Step pause turn pause pivot step step,' not “Step pause turn pause pivot step pause!' Oh, shudder!”

 

[smeltitdeltit]

This social media backlash from Victorians is a joke...can you imagine if Lynch had been suspended because he broke Viney's jaw? Victorians would all be saying yeah fair result....

Never go full r3tard

 

[MUYB]

You are either blind or stupid or both, he clearly bumped and with intent. Who recovered quickest from the incident and who ended up with the ball?? Have another look.

Irrelevant. There is no requirement for Viney to avoid contact in the situation.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

It's not a theory muppet it's fact. You clowns dominate the media and the agenda and SA clubs always get a raw deal.

Yikes

 

[carnthemlions]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy
If anyone's remotely interested, this is why contact in the AFL and other sports will inevitably have to be reduced.
People like you thinking the game is soft won't kill it. But parents finding out just how dangerous it is for their kids to play certainly will.

 

[TonkaTuff]

You are either blind or stupid or both, he clearly bumped and with intent. Who recovered quickest from the incident and who ended up with the ball?? Have another look.

The way he starts to essentially 'curl' up a bit tells you that he as bracing for impact, watch his shoulders and legs and try tell me he was pushing off the ground and moving the shoulder to take out Lynch, he actually pulls his shoulder in, which was an instinctive bracing maneuver.

 

[Xsess]

Soon umpires will be blowing their whistles and crying out "contact contact contact!!"

 

[Great 2008]

1. Rough Conduct (High Bumps)
The Player Rules provide that a player will be guilty of rough
conduct where in the bumping of an opponent (whether reasonably or
unreasonably) he causes forceful contact to be made with any part of
his body to an opponent’s head or neck unless
a.
he player was contesting the ball and did not have a realistic
alternative way to contest the ball; or
b.
the forceful contact to the head or neck was caused by
circumstances outside the control of the player which could not
reasonably be foreseen.
In the interests of player safety, the purpose of the rule dealing
with high bumps is to reduce, as far as practicable, the risk of head
injuries to players and this purpose needs to be kept firmly in mind by
all players and will guide the application of the rule.


THE BOLDED PART IS WHAT THE TRIBUNAL IS BLATANTLY IGNORING.
That collision was 99% unavoidable.

If Georgiou was not part of the incident Lynch would in all likelihood not have a broken jaw. See part B. He is not guilty or was Viney supposed to factor in Georgiou's approach to the contest as well? Ridiculous suspension. No wonder I only tune in for one game these days.

 

[TheRedPill]

The fact Tex Walker came out and slammed the AFL's decision says something.

 

[donbooger]

No matter how low an opinion you have of the MRP/Tribunal they can always come out and surprise you.

I really didnt think Viney would get weeks. Such a disappointing result.

I always thought that the good fair players could adapt to the new head collision rules no matter what decision I saw, Ziebell, Fyfe etc, through it all I always thought the line set by the MRP was attainable without to much damage to the spectacle of the game. Not now, Viney couldn't avoid that collision. Innocent players will miss games for this and they always will. Shattered.

 

[BG32]

alright heres what happened when i went to AFL house, walked in the front door and there was a bloke vacuuming the floors i decided against spinning out of his way to avoid contact and dropped him Marley Willliams style. Obviously didnt get much further.

Sent From Jail cell 4

 

[ziad]

Sorry, your version is not backed up by the rules of the game. The AFL case is based around the "realistic alternative" being for Viney to avoid the contest completely. The rules as written instead reference a "realistic alternative way to contest the ball".

dumb and dumber stuff best kept for the trash TV shows.
a crow had the ball and was being tackled by a Melbourne player - thus viney wasn't contesting the ball and chose not to tackle. he got him high. The crow had his arms held - 2-4 weeks I thought on the spot.

end of game and very obvious if you let go of the emotional tripe

 

[smasha]

Yes,I was a goose and I apologise for my statements.
Sorry Crypt and everyone on here.
The Conca getting crashed to the ground and Gibson getting away with it caused me to lose my last remaining marbles.

The game is so inconsistent on so many levels ,even umpiring when a holding the ball text book tackle will go unrewarded and someone will get paid from a lesser tackle.

Anyway sorry all.

P.S. I hope Viney gets justice.

I remember the good ole days when the bump was a reason you went to the footy.
The bump is one of the greatest things about this sport.

I think Roos would have been dirty on Viney if he didn't do what he did.

What Viney did was part of the essence of our game.

Anyway sorry folks.

I lost it last night and I'm deeply sorry.

You feeling like a dick today fella?

Deledio gets off and Viney goes.

All part of the great AFL anti-Richmond conspiracy.

 

[Dan Cooper]

The fact Tex Walker came out and slammed the AFL's decision says something.

Many other players and officials have as well.

I doubt there would be too many players or former players who would agree with the decision.

 

[donbooger]

dumb and dumber stuff best kept for the trash TV shows.
a crow had the ball and was being tackled by a Melbourne player - thus viney wasn't contesting the ball and chose not to tackle. he got him high. The crow had his arms held - 2-4 weeks I thought on the spot.

end of game and very obvious if you let go of the emotional tripe

In slow motion, viewing the collision alone I would agree with you. In real time I believe Viney was believably after the ball and had no option when Lynch got there first and the collision was inevitable.

 

[Plugger35]

You are either blind or stupid or both, he clearly bumped and with intent. Who recovered quickest from the incident and who ended up with the ball?? Have another look.

Bracing for forceful contact from players running towards you is not bumping with intent.

So what do you suggest he should have done as an alternative?

 

[flyinghi64]

The ball bounces up or even backwards a little and Viney is first to it and probably get's it and runs away (or maybe even does a sidestep pirouette). It doesn't and goes to Lynch first instead so the only option he has is to brace for impact, his intent wasn't to bump but to get to the ball first.
The only chance he had to completely avoid impact was maybe 10% if he did a barrel roll to the left or right or a ballerina twirl out of the way. Imagine the absolute bashing he would of copped from all and sundry if he did that

One of if not the worst decision/outcome I have ever seen in Footy.

Oh and sorry but Douglass is in no way comparable to this or even Fyfe's.

 

[clogged]

Piss-poor act, closing the main board thread 'I won't be watching Friday night football this week'.

The game's in the palliative care of lawyers. As is their way, the corporates have taken something original and unique and synthesised it, wrapped it up in glitzy packaging and told you to like it. Well I've seen the real thing, and I'm not buying this shit.

In 38 years I've never simply not gone to watch Richmond, but I'm doing it in Round 9 - my personal insignificant token protest at the running of the game. As for Round 10 and beyond, I don't know.

I do wonder about why threads which criticise the AFL in anyway get punted to these sub boards that few read, or alternatively locked.

Very convenient way of silencing dissent.

 

[Xsess]

Even HTB has been prostituted in the drive to remove all physical contact from AFL. Under the new interpretation the bloke who attacks the footy is penalised and the one who stands off the contest rewarded (just pile on top with two mates). Heavens forbid that two blokes would attack the same footy.. they might bonk their heads

 

[Epilegs]

Thought i would finally watch a replay of this bump to see what the fuss is about.

Worst suspension ever. There would have been no conscious decision to bump because there wasnt time for it. Viney protects himself. That is all.

This kinda crap warrants an AFL supporter petition. Worst call ever.