Player Watch Jakob Ryan

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Peter Sidorkiewicz said:
If the coaches have given him feedback that this upcoming season may be make or break for Jakob, then he is off to a good start by coming back in shape and winning the time trial.

That's good to see.
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What about if they haven't given him that feedback & he still did it?
 

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Jen2310 said:
Yup I believe so
In his first pre-season, he almost beat IQ in the yoyo test.
He looks a bit stronger now. Just needs to be injury free and start strong.
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Just looked it up. He ran 6.16 at the draft combine, so expected really.

I really liked him early, seemed to lose confidence after the concussion, but got better by the end of the year.
 
To me he's looked fine as a half back. Good reading of the play and intercept ability. It may not be a role of need right now, but don't thing there's a need to move him out of it. Those less suited to defence like Parker, DeMattia should be tried in different roles.
 
sr36 said:
Just looked it up. He ran 6.16 at the draft combine, so expected really.

I really liked him early, seemed to lose confidence after the concussion, but got better by the end of the year.
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Yeah, I think his multiple injuries this year dating back to that concussion in 2023 stunted his confidence, everytime he got going, something would happen. But felt he was regaining some good in those final few vfl games.
Hopefully he can get a good run at it this pre-season and take the next step forward.
 
Jen2310 said:
Yeah, I think his multiple injuries this year dating back to that concussion in 2023 stunted his confidence, everytime he got going, something would happen. But felt he was regaining some good in those final few vfl games.
Hopefully he can get a good run at it this pre-season and take the next step forward.
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One or two of Allan, HDM, Ryan, Parker, Smit, Steene, coming through would be great. I think Jiath will need time still to build up core strength.
 
sr36 said:
One or two of Allan, HDM, Ryan, Parker, Smit, Steene, coming through would be great. I think Jiath will need time still to build up core strength.
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Yeah I think Jiath is a couple years away, but the others hopefully can come on in the next 12-18 months especially given our retirees soon
 
whiskeytown said:
Won the 2km time trial

Needs a big year imo

A position change over summer might help

Yes, positions are tight.

But with the hard running capacity Ryan might be better served on a wing at VFL level in order to realise his full footballing potential
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Ash johnston plays and trains line a bloke who had a rub before a date..

No drive
No enthusiasm
No care factor
 
Jen2310 said:
Still training down back from what I can see, But Id like to see a trial on the wing, but guess Harry is gunning for that position too.
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At Moment I probably have Ryan ahead of Harry at the Moment
 
Probably no surprise that this thread gets a spike in activity on day 2 of pre-season when he wins a 2km time trial against about eight other blokes.

I think we need to temper expectations until we see that he puts up a solid performance in one of the match sims early next year (preferably a scratch match against opposition, not the intraclub).

Everyone seems to get sucked into 2km results every year, or other largely irrelevant pre-season showings. I think the past two years there's been a collective frenzy over Fin and Reef during pre-season.
 
Pragmatic Shill said:
Probably no surprise that this thread gets a spike in activity on day 2 of pre-season when he wins a 2km time trial against about eight other blokes.

I think we need to temper expectations until we see that he puts up a solid performance in one of the match sims early next year (preferably a scratch match against opposition, not the intraclub).

Everyone seems to get sucked into 2km results every year, or other largely irrelevant pre-season showings. I think the past two years there's been a collective frenzy over Fin and Reef during pre-season.
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Of course.
But it's nice to see him start off well. Hopefully he can continue it through pre-season and take the next step. Hopefully gets a good run with injury and we can see some good continuity playing wise.
 
Can we try him as a defensive wingman (similar to Jarrod Berry)? Play a few lockdown roles on players like Gulden and see how he goes.

Just need to get some games into him regardless of position almost.
 

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ASDFASDFSA said:
Can we try him as a defensive wingman (similar to Jarrod Berry)? Play a few lockdown roles on players like Gulden and see how he goes.

Just need to get some games into him regardless of position almost.
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Er.... why?

He has largely struggled at VFL level so far with a good decent games mixed in, a long way from demanding AFL selection.
 
Hopefully Jakob Ryan has a similar trajectory to Nathan Murphy where after his 2nd and even 3rd year on the list I had absolutely zero expectations that he would make it as an AFL player, and then bam! Incredible improvement in a short span of time.

People tend to forget that Nathan Murphy played 2 AFL games in his first year on the list, but zero AFL games in years 2 and 3 on the list. He had basically done nothing of note until all of sudden, in 2022 he walks into the side as a full back out of nowhere, and we win 11 straight games with him in the side.
 
Jen2310 said:
Of course.
But it's nice to see him start off well. Hopefully he can continue it through pre-season and take the next step. Hopefully gets a good run with injury and we can see some good continuity playing wise.
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Precisely. To use a TdF analogy, you can't win it in the first week, but you can certainly lose it. It's infinitely better to start the season in good shape than like a sack of buttered potatoes!
He's doing himself every favour to get himself where he needs to be for the coaches to use him effectively.
 
Vinnie Vegas said:
Hopefully Jakob Ryan has a similar trajectory to Nathan Murphy where after his 2nd and even 3rd year on the list I had absolutely zero expectations that he would make it as an AFL player, and then bam! Incredible improvement in a short span of time.

People tend to forget that Nathan Murphy played 2 AFL games in his first year on the list, but zero AFL games in years 2 and 3 on the list. He had basically done nothing of note until all of sudden, in 2022 he walks into the side as a full back out of nowhere, and we win 11 straight games with him in the side.
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All the traits that were in Murphy’s repertoire were on display even in his first few years. Desperation, reading the play, good skills, ridiculous bravery. Not seeing that in Ryan.
 
sr36 said:
One or two of Allan, HDM, Ryan, Parker, Smit, Steene, coming through would be great. I think Jiath will need time still to build up core strength.
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I'm bullish on Smit starting to build a good body of work in the VFL this year, perhaps getting exposure to senior footy and setting him up for senior opportunities in 2026. I think he's got the tools to be a good ruck forward. Fingers crossed!
 
Mollythedolly said:
All the traits that were in Murphy’s repertoire were on display even in his first few years. Desperation, reading the play, good skills, ridiculous bravery. Not seeing that in Ryan.
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That's ridiculous. Murphy looked almost nothing but awkward in those early years and was a man without a position, not having the running capacity for the wing or the forward craft to play forward.

You're looking back with the power of hindsight and seeing things that were not obvious at the time.
 
Vinnie Vegas said:
Hopefully Jakob Ryan has a similar trajectory to Nathan Murphy where after his 2nd and even 3rd year on the list I had absolutely zero expectations that he would make it as an AFL player, and then bam! Incredible improvement in a short span of time.

People tend to forget that Nathan Murphy played 2 AFL games in his first year on the list, but zero AFL games in years 2 and 3 on the list. He had basically done nothing of note until all of sudden, in 2022 he walks into the side as a full back out of nowhere, and we win 11 straight games with him in the side.
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From your lips to Nick Daicos’ ears…
 
Vinnie Vegas said:
That's ridiculous. Murphy looked almost nothing but awkward in those early years and was a man without a position, not having the running capacity for the wing or the forward craft to play forward.


You're looking back with the power of hindsight and seeing things that were not obvious at the time.
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What’s ridiculous is your lack of comprehension. I said Murphy was showing the same traits in his first few seasons as he was in his last, not that he was as good. We saw the reading of the play and decision making, we saw the manic desperation, we saw the good skills. Murphy’s biggest issue wasn’t football ability, it was continuity as he was constantly getting injured. Not sure who you were watching.

Ryan conversely has shown very little. He’s not great 1v1, his skills and decision making aren’t great, his pace is good rather than being elite. He’s got a long way to go to be in the same discussion with Murphy.
 
Vinnie Vegas said:
Hopefully Jakob Ryan has a similar trajectory to Nathan Murphy where after his 2nd and even 3rd year on the list I had absolutely zero expectations that he would make it as an AFL player, and then bam! Incredible improvement in a short span of time.

People tend to forget that Nathan Murphy played 2 AFL games in his first year on the list, but zero AFL games in years 2 and 3 on the list. He had basically done nothing of note until all of sudden, in 2022 he walks into the side as a full back out of nowhere, and we win 11 straight games with him in the side.
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Josh Daicos was Simmlar as looked Ordinary 1st few seasons then Bang comes a Gun in 2020
 

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