Coach James Hird - is it time to give him a second chance at coaching an AFL club? Gil says yes!

[Ramify]

As long as he's bringing his frozen water buisness

Absolutely.
Frozen water = essential part of any good recovery regime.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

As long as he's bringing his frozen water buisness

LOL and everyone thought he was joking at the time.

 

[SuperMal]

There is no mitigation here - he cannot seperate himself from the most blatant cheating exercise since the Csrlton ‘brown paper bag’.

Regardless of his ALLEGED legendary status...he was duplicitous, refused to accept responsibility, duped, and reckless.

The fact that he’s now an emotional flake simply means the AFL owe him a duty of care NOT to allow him to take a senior role.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

There is no mitigation here - he cannot seperate himself from the most blatant cheating exercise since the Csrlton ‘brown paper bag’.

Pretty sure to this day Carlton throw staffs lunch in the bin if they bring it in a brown paper bag, repeated breaches lead to being sacked.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Well Essendon have just delisted him

Tom Hird was never going to make it too small and his skills were average didnt have enough tools nothing to do with the prospect of his old man coaching. club didnt rate him was cat b rookie

 

[theyellowsash]

Hirds son just delisted. We all know James's ego wouldn't allow more than 1 hird to be at the club.

The stars are aligning

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Hirds son just delisted. We all know James's ego wouldn't allow more than 1 hird to be at the club.

The stars are aligning

His other son Alex is playing for the vfl side

 

[theyellowsash]

His other son Alex is playing for the vfl side

Different list is ok i assume. Vfl players are no threat to him.

 

[SuperMal]

Pretty sure to this day Carlton throw staffs lunch in the bin if they bring it in a brown paper bag, repeated breaches lead to being sacked.

Pretty sure to this day Carlton throw staffs lunch in the bin if they bring it in a brown paper bag, repeated breaches lead to being sacked.

They burned them along with Elliot....

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Different list is ok i assume. Vfl players are no threat to him.

I dont see him coaching us still. only person who's pushing it is sheeds and majority of the board are pushing back

 

[Engimal v3]

I can't believe North broke this club to the point where they're about to appoint James Hird for a second time.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

I can't believe North broke this club

You did us a favour the club needed this maybe finally we will see real change

 

[Elite Master]

You did us a favour the club needed this maybe finally we will see real change

Bringing Hird back into the fold is what would constitute as real change?

 

[My Tilly]

Surely he won't be back as coach. I think they to move on just as the Watson's have stated this week.

 

[Duskfire]

Director of Coaching: Thompson
Senior Assistant: McVeigh

Harvey is already there behind the scenes.

Tania Hird - Inhouse Legal Counsel

Lloyd doesn't seem to want a bar of this so they wont be getting him as a forward coach or goal kicking coach (then again $$$ talks)

I would not often put Matthew Lloyd and sense in the same sentence, however out of Essendons big supporters he seems to have a good head on his shoulders about this.

 

[SuperMal]

I would not often put Matthew Lloyd and sense in the same sentence, however out of Essendons big supporters he seems to have a good head on his shoulders about this.

They have an Ice Dealer as Director of Coaching?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Bringing Hird back into the fold is what would constitute as real change?

So far it's only rumours and nothing more

 

[Delecate Des]

They were civil charges.

Not criminal charges even though papers may have reported it as such.

Do i really need to go Legal Studies in here?

Hope you don't mind, but I thought I would assist you with your kind offer "to go Legal Studies in here"

The link to WorkSafe and the court system webpage discusses how WorkSafe will investigate, review the evidence and may file criminal charges against the accused. All WorkSafe prosecutions begin in the Magistrates' Court. Some less serious offences, are called summary offences, and they are heard and decided in the Magistrates' Court by a magistrate sitting alone. Some charges are more serious. These are called indictable offences.

The Magistrates Court of Victoria hears two types of criminal offences – summary offences and indictable offences. The link to their criminal offences summary offences page discusses a "mention hearing". This is for those who plead GULITY, and a Contest Hearing for those who wish to plead not guilty and effectively contest the charge! The Magistrates Court Pleading guilty or not guilty page discusses how if you plead guilty to a charge, it means you admit breaking the law and committing that offence.

But wait there's more!!

If you go back to the Worksafe Prosecution Result Summaries page and search for a certain football club, you get the following

"The club pleaded guilty to both charges and was convicted and fined $50 000 on the first and convicted and fined $150 000 on the second. The court considered general deterrence and public denunciation as important to the consideration of the penalty. (Before his Honour Magistrate Reardon in the Melbourne Magistrates' Court.)"

As per LoungeLizard post, Essendon's Lawyers asked for non conviction and were told no, resulting in a criminal conviction, of which they didn't appeal?

Hope this helps???

 

[Stamos]

Hird would unite Essendon factions, says long-time confidant

The debate over whether Essendon should consider James Hird as coach continues, this time with his long-time confidant declaring he is the man to unite the club’s factions.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Yoda_]

Id be all for Hird to come back just to see the offended of so many idiots bemoaning the sheer existence of Essendon let alone the great man at the helm once again.

I can taste the sweet salty tears from 90% of Bigfoot already

 

[Tassie27]

Id be all for Hird to come back just to see the offended of so many idiots bemoaning the sheer existence of Essendon let alone the great man at the helm once again.

I can taste the sweet salty tears from 90% of Bigfoot already

That right there is the definition of cutting your nose to spite your face

 

[Yoda_]

That right there is the definition of cutting your nose to spite your face

society hates us enough

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Well Essendon have just delisted him

Ballsy move

 

[Del165198]

Id be all for Hird to come back just to see the offended of so many idiots bemoaning the sheer existence of Essendon let alone the great man at the helm once again.

I can taste the sweet salty tears from 90% of Bigfoot already

This sounds vaguely familiar. Like the folks who voted for Donald Tramp to "own the libs" despite knowing it would be against their best interest. Very interesting (stupid) way of living your life.

 

[Chadwiko]

If Essendon appointed Hird again, it would confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt what an absolute basket case that club has become.

Just when the club was finally getting some distance and fresh air between it and the drugs scandal, bringing Hird back would ensure that the issue never goes away for his entire tenure. The connection is too strong.

I can't believe Essendon fans aren't protesting outside Tullamarine against even the possibility of this move.