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How many fine young men have been damaged by this scandal scandalous decision?

As per the released phone messages, why did you start the peptide program?

Why was the program of drugs supplements started by some people at Essendon?

What healthy lifelong benefits were you hoping to see the players derive from this upstanding supplement program? Have you always been so caring?

Why would players start by saying they only got "natural vitamin' injections, then later admit to AOD injections, then admit to 'thymo' injections after prompting?

Are the players hurt by your lack of accountability hurting right now?

Were you pressured into making statements by the AFL? Do you feel like a scapegoat? Do you like how tough these unforeseen questions are?

Why did you ask Danny Corcoran to employ his 'United Nations' skills on Dr. Reid?

Which of your bosses was framed responsible for preventing the early termination of Stephen Dank's services?

Why would you pump a club full of elite athletes full of thymomodulin?

Why in God's name would you inject thymomodulin when it can be administered orally?

Have ASADA ever busted an Essendon player being physically injected with TB4?

Why do the business records indicate TB4 was ordered, compounded and paid for by the EFC?

Why did Dr. Reid testify that he had absolutely no idea what was being injected into the players?

What protocols, processes and governance thing-a-me-bobs did you sagely put in place to make sure the program was hunky dory?

Has it been tough seeing your bullshit story stringent moral processes seemingly ignored?

Did you see the scathing letter that Dr Reid sent the finished copy of the concerned letter you and Dr Reid sat down and composed together?

Why the hell would you be the intended recipient of a letter than you yourself helped compose?

Do you think Dr. Reid has taken enough blame for this scandal?

Does Dr. Reid think of you as a back-stabbing bastard as a son?

What was the AOD project and why did you receive a text concerning the financial particulars thereof?

Was AOD deemed too hard to prosecute safe to use via a sneaky backdoor loophole?

Some people seem to have the impression that this is all about you; is it? Or is it really all about helping the poor players?

Do you think the players have been hard done by?

Why did the players fail to disclose multiple injections to ASADA drug testers?

You haven't previously been given a forum to claim that your concern is all about the players; would you like to take that opportunity now?

You have generously given up your time to tell your side of the story, let us hope others you have thrown under the bus involved in this saga such as Ian Robson, Paul Hamilton, Dr. Reid, Andy Demetriou, Gill McLachlan, those CAS foreigners and the gubbermint can follow your courageous example one day.

It's been an honour to serve interview you James.
 
Joffaboy said:
Do you know what you are even arguing?
I have watched this thread for pages and your posts are getting more obscure and meaningless as you go.

I know you want to protect the Messiah but really your argument on Robinson is ludicrous and assuming.
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I couldnt care less about Hird. But the ends people will go to to assassinate his character is absurd. Now he has openly admitted to his mistakes people are still claiming he hasnt taken responsibility. How pathetic
 

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mxett said:
they settled the case out of court. Maybe just maybe Robinson had a decent case for unfair dismissal and wasnt paid out only to be silent
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congratulations you are officially the most naive person on the internet stand by as your prize of eleventy billion gold dracmas will be hand delivered to your door by a Nigerian prince riding atop a magnificent winged Pegasus
 
If Hird truly has remorse then he should be offering to pay back the cost of the Paris junket and the pay for the year cooling his heels.

Despite having many well off supporters, any visit to Essendon's turf will tell you that many Essendon people are not loaded and Hird is basically living the high life off them.
 
mxett said:
prove it instead of assuming
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After everything that has occurred over the past 3 years, culminating in everybody losing their jobs and 34 players getting 2 year bans for taking banned drugs - you're seriously still taking that approach?

You don't think we're at a stage where it's a reasonable assumption that these people are shonky and full of shit?

You choose to believe they're all legit and innocent, lovely people, and need proof to think otherwise? Really?
 
Bombermania said:
If Hird truly has remorse then he should be offering to pay back the cost of the Paris junket and the pay for the year cooling his heels.

Despite having many well off supporters, any visit to Essendon's turf will tell you that many Essendon people are not loaded and Hird is basically living the high life off them.
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Well said
 
Habitual said:
Okay, let's try another tact with you. If Dean Robinson was so incompetent and one of the masterminds of this program, why did your football club give him $1m? And if it's because they now believe he was wrongfully dismissed (this was not a court judgement, this was settled between the two parties), then why tonight did James Hird say they had a meeting about sacking Robinson and Dank but agreed the club could not afford to release them?
Strange you'd cry poor then give someone $1m don't you think? Surely you'd wait for a judge to decide the case? Especially as you had all these people convinced of Robinson's guilt in the saga and incompetence in his position of employment?

No, I'm insinuating that Essendon settled out of court with him. And I'm insinuating that as part of this settlement, they signed a confidentiality agreement that does not allow him discuss the settlement or make public comment on what happened during his time at Essendon. Why they would do that I find very interesting, don't you?
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Thats the biggest problem. There are so many holes in the story.

And if you look at the statement of charges on the AFL site you can see why everyone thinks that it does not add up.

Given ASADA and the AFL have every email and text of every party those charges are fact.

James and Dank spoke often and used names for the drugs. Its also shown Albert was given Hexeralin and Melatonin, so I'm sure he was aware of what was going on.

Only a fool would believe the story if you look at the facts.

So im not sure how James can say he doesn't think that PEDs were at the club, there is good evidence in the interim report and charges of what happened, which is all public.

I do however believe every word about the AFL, that is what the AFL do because they are a pack of dogs.

As i said earlier the interim report is damning, the only thing James is right about is that it doesn't prove guilt, but it doesn't prove innocence either.
 
mxett said:
I couldnt care less about Hird. But the ends people will go to to assassinate his character is absurd. Now he has openly admitted to his mistakes people are still claiming he hasnt taken responsibility. How pathetic
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Lol. Others are assassinating his character.

His actions has caused the suspension of 34 young footballers for being injected with illegal drugs.
He assassinated his own reputation
 

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RussellEbertHandball said:
James has to go and dust off that civil engineering degree he was awarded all those years ago and go and seek an engineering job so he can learn to build some bridges, buildings, roads and other infrastructure. You can't bullshit and pass the buck when you are responsible for designing and building those structures.
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to long out of the biz for that
 
mxett said:
I couldnt care less about Hird. But the ends people will go to to assassinate his character is absurd. Now he has openly admitted to his mistakes people are still claiming he hasnt taken responsibility. How pathetic
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He was talking about your nonsense about Robinson coming out of retirement and burning $1m to respond to alleged, and I quote you 'deformation'.

What you're doing though with respect to the Robinson diversion is quite an interesting window on how Hird has acted in the interview.

I think at this point (like Hird in the interview) you don't _really_ believe what you're saying. You honestly should just admit your comments about Robinson and defamation are naive and silly, withdraw them, and give it up. Instead you just plow on and on, asking for 'evidence' that is impossible to provide and then satisfying yourself that other posters are incorrect when such evidence is not provided. You're just going further and further down the rabbit hole, and making less and less sense as you go.

Ninja Edit: Grammar & clarity fix in para 2.
 
mxett said:
I couldnt care less about Hird. But the ends people will go to to assassinate his character is absurd. Now he has openly admitted to his mistakes people are still claiming he hasnt taken responsibility. How pathetic
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I expected a lot of the usual spin but I thought Hird took ownership of his part and came across as pretty honest in this interview. People are cruel. Surely Dank is the problem here, more than anyone else, so why aren't people as irate at him? He was injecting the players, he was sourcing the peptides, banned or not. I want Dank to have his day in court to hear his responses. Everyone tells a different story. Just watched the old dean Robinson interview too. Who can really tell where the truth lies but is Hird really the villain or is he just another scapegoat?
 
lones37 said:
Thats the biggest problem. There are so many holes in the story.

And if you look at the statement of charges on the AFL site you can see why everyone thinks that it does not add up.

Given ASADA and the AFL have every email and text of every party those charges are fact.

James and Dank spoke often and used names for the drugs. Its also shown Albert was given Hexeralin and Melatonin, so I'm sure he was aware of what was going on.

Only a fool would believe the story if you look at the facts.

So im not sure how James can say he doesn't think that PEDs were at the club, there is good evidence in the interim report and charges of what happened, which is all public.

I do however believe every word about the AFL, that is what the AFL do because they are a pack of dogs.

As i said earlier the interim report is damning, the only thing James is right about is that it doesn't prove guilt, but it doesn't prove innocence either.
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they are no cycling dopers. cycling dopers call their EPO "Edgar" in some tenuous Cockney slang* in ode of notorious doper Edgar Alan Poe

they cant even get that right at Windy Hill. Need to brush up on their penguin classics
 
Lavender Bushranger said:
After everything that has occurred over the past 3 years, culminating in everybody losing their jobs and 34 players getting 2 year bans for taking banned drugs - you're seriously still taking that approach?

You don't think we're at a stage where it's a reasonable assumption that these people are shonky and full of shit?

You choose to believe they're all legit and innocent, lovely people, and need proof to think otherwise? Really?
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There were clearly many mistakes made but all evidence doesnt prove it was intentional. Much of it points the other way
 
Will one day, be bracketed along side the David Frost/Tricky Dicky and Richard Carleton/Silver Bodgie interviews.

As an aside, and you are well within your rights to tell me to shove my advice wherever, but I think Mxett, you
need to take a few days off from Big Footy.

You will just end up making yourself unwell over this whole matter.
 
Joffaboy said:
Lol. Others are assassinating his character.

His actions has caused the suspension of 34 young footballers for being injected with illegal drugs.
He assassinated his own reputation
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When even Robbo thinks that enough questions weren't asked or answered well enough, I think it's time to step back and consider that maybe you are delusional if that interview left you with a positive impression of Hird.
 
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