MRP / Trib. James Sicily - 3 weeks for dangerous tackle - SUSPENSION STANDS!

[Cold Sober]

Good to see you round again. How have you been?

Still kicking, alls well.

 

[theiaofseed]

Hannon (AFL): The AFL's contention is that the action itself was not significantly influenced by Brockman. It was the motion of the tackle that created force.

As evidenced by WHAT? You can't just say "because we said so".

Ofc the motion is what generated the force but that doesn't mean anything, if the technique of tackling is correct but influenced by Brockman then there should be no case to answer.

 

[JoeHawk]

Tehan (Hawks): Desperate, diving tackles are part of Australian Football and have been for as long as the game has been around.

Got lots of likes

 

[Stranglers]

Tehan (Hawks): Desperate, diving tackles are part of Australian Football and have been for as long as the game has been around.

Got lots of likes

Hope we argue on a basis other than just that!

 

[Kuuz]

Hannon (AFL): The AFL's contention is that the action itself was not significantly influenced by Brockman. It was the motion of the tackle that created force.

As evidenced by WHAT? You can't just say "because we said so".

Going to be another coinflip - all will be on whether the Jury (Jeff Gleeson (Chair), Talia Radan, David Neitz) view whether the contact of Brockman was significant/material to the concussion or not.

Such a line-ball, subjective call - I think Brocky does, but others may see it as purely incidental.

C'mon Brocky - save the Hawks once again!

 

[Cold Sober]

What would the outcome be if it had been a Daicos or a Cotchin.
Correct, would never have been reported.

 

[Sleutheren]

Perhaps we can have Sicily show the each of the panel and AFL cronies what a real sling tackle is..

 

[The A Team Van]

Why don't they live stream the Tribunal? Waiting for new tweets or updates on a website is a painful way to keep up with what's going on

 

[Sleutheren]

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is up there making the call. He never hurt a fly in his playing days.

 

[Sixpence]

The AFL are arguing that the wrong arm was free. How the **** do you expect tacklers to control which arm hits the ground first?! This is beyond ridiculous. What an embarrassment to the game.

 

[Kuuz]

looks up Myles Tehan (our counsel) and his experience



Helped throw the book at Essendon - no wonder he is trusted by us

 

[hawkman]

Bradshaw says the dynamics would've been different if Brockman wasn't involved, but can't say to what extent.

"There's no way to tell would contact have actually occurred without the presence of Brockman."


Probably should suspend Brockman as well, just in case.

Don't give them any ideas

 

[Mojo]

Hope we argue on a basis other than just that!

Awful defence. As a master debater I would have had this hearing over within 20 minutes.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[Mercy Seat]

Going to be another coinflip - all will be on whether the Jury (Jeff Gleeson (Chair), Talia Radan, David Neitz) view whether the contact of Brockman was significant/material to the concussion or not.

Such a line-ball, subjective call - I think Brocky does, but others may see it as purely incidental.

C'mon Brocky - save the Hawks once again!

Gotta say my heart sunk a little when I saw this was the primary argument. I think even without Brocky, it’s a purely legitimate tackle, and that’s what we should be pushing. By putting it all on Brock I’m worried it’s all a little too subjective.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Why don't they live stream the Tribunal? Waiting for new tweets or updates on a website is a painful way to keep up with what's going on

Reckon if the went back to the old Tuesday tribunal days (no early offers) Tuesday Tribunal would be a hit for Fox Footy

 

[schmikhawk]

What would the outcome be if it had been a Daicos or a Cotchin.
Correct, would never have been reported.

Or a merrett

 

[hawkman]

Reckon if the went back to the old Tuesday tribunal days (no early offers) Tuesday Tribunal would be a hit for Fox Footy

Better than Players Night on 360

 

[Mercy Seat]

looks up Myles Tehan (our counsel) and his experience

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Helped throw the book at Essendon - no wonder he is trusted by us

He’s a big Lions fan though, so I’ve got a buck each way

 

[Kuuz]

Gotta say my heart sunk a little when I saw this was the primary argument. I think even without Brocky, it’s a purely legitimate tackle, and that’s what we should be pushing. By putting it all on Brock I’m worried it’s all a little too subjective.

We don't have the full transcript, but looks like we're throwing a few ideas in alternative. From Zita's tweets, looks like we're also just pushing that Sicily had little control + he had been trained in safe tackles just prior.

Hard to tell without seeing it in full - but was a little concerned. Definitely worth a run, but can see the jury going the other way. Fingers crossed they bow to sanity.

 

[JoeHawk]

Tehan (Hawks) says a push from Keidean Coleman must be taken into account.

looking at the footage the push caused Sicily to lunge forward and in the same motion tackled McCluggage. He didn't really have full control of his own actions

 

[Sixpence]

Or a merrett

Merrett copped a week earlier in the year for a perfectly legitimate tackle. He's not a favourite son.

 

[Kuuz]

Oooo I like this - I didn't even notice this on viewing.

Basically, Sic had a compromised position to begin with and did the best with what he had left. Pushing the "had no other alternative", which is pretty much the common view of this. Gooood argument.

 

[Stranglers]

Tehan (Hawks): Without Brockman, this would've been a safe tackle.

AFL: Ahah! So you admit that the tackle had the POTENTIAL to cause harm!

 

[Sleutheren]

Reckon if the went back to the old Tuesday tribunal days (no early offers) Tuesday Tribunal would be a hit for Fox Footy

I also don't understand 'early pleas to get a reduced sentence' in the context of sport. There technically is a 'correct' outcome/penalty for all cases - if someone should get 2 weeks, why do they get off lighter by saying 'yeah, I did it'?
The 'correct' outcome/penalty should always be what's delivered. And that's based on the incident and the evidence provided ... And not impacted by someone entering an early guiltily plea.