January 26th 2025

[Goroyals22]

He was asked, because he was not using the flags. The issue began with his actions, not a question.

If you had lived experience of the horrors that First Peoples were subjected to, you'd understand the importance. Educate yourself and do some cultural capability training.

Were being the key word here..




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[schneebly111]

These things all happened over a century ago with some exceptions up until the 1970s which basically is half a century ago now.

The “aboriginals should just get over what happened in the past” argument has always struck me as silly given we are told to worship a date from 237 years ago when the people of that time period are long dead from smallpox or typhoid fever.

Also being told “lest we forget” the actions of some guys running up some sand dunes in Turkey 110 years ago and they’re all long dead and buried by now.

So what is it? “Lest we forget” or “just forget about it”?

 

[MPMonkeys]

**** right off. I had a foster brother, born in the 70s. His elder brother was stolen from his mother a few years earlier, she ‘gave him up’ because she thought they were coming for him anyway. So technically not part of the stolen generations but stolen nonetheless. He later returned to his community but was always stuck between two cultures, never quite fitting in. Took his own life at a sadly young age. Don’t try to pretend the horrors are ancient history and not part of people’s lives right now.

I never said they weren't - only that they happened a long time ago give or take some exceptions.

 

[MPMonkeys]

The “aboriginals should just get over what happened in the past” argument has always struck me as silly given we are told to worship a date from 237 years ago when the people of that time period are long dead from smallpox or typhoid fever.

Also being told “lest we forget” the actions of some guys running up some sand dunes in Turkey 110 years ago and they’re all long dead and buried by now.

So what is it? “Lest we forget” or “just forget about it”?

Nobody is using that argument. You are projecting again.

 

[Deliverance]

Were being the key word here..




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Cool, so if I stab you, I'm golden two days later? Because you "were" stabbed and you should move on.

 

[faible]

Canadian Red Ensign - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Canada ditched their Red Ensign flag for a flag of their own.

No reason we should hang on to a British flag either.

 

[faible]

I never said they weren't - only that they happened a long time ago give or take some exceptions.

I reckon you should probably steer clear of commenting on the actual lived experiences of Aboriginal Australians.

 

[Roylion]

Canadian Red Ensign - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Canada ditched their Red Ensign flag for a flag of their own.

Which was never the official national flag of Canada.

 

[JackOutback]

I never said they weren't - only that they happened a long time ago give or take some exceptions.

So, what, people in their 50s should have gotten over being stolen? The children of these people, who would have suffered greatly and not been able to raise their children in the way we all hope we could, should have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps by now?

I’m not Aboriginal and I’ve felt the effects of our history. And I wouldn’t even pretend to grasp the effects it would have on Aboriginal people. Dig deep and see if you can locate an ounce of empathy for other human beings who have been so poorly treated in such recent history.

 

[faible]

Which was never the official national flag of Canada.

(I don't care)

 

[Sinjin Smith]

Patriotism is the conviction that you country is superior to other countries because you were born in it.

It’s odd to be ‘proud’ of your country, as if you were somehow responsible for it. I’m pleased to live in a relatively safe and secure country, I feel fortunate to have the life I have, but I also recognise that it’s not the same for everyone and we should always strive to be better. Anything else seems silly.

 

[Gough]

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I like this one.

 

[schneebly111]

Nobody is using that argument. You are projecting again.

Have a read of any Murdoch media comments section

 

[schneebly111]

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According to Sean “woke” Connery too.

 

[Sinjin Smith]

According to Sean “woke” Connery too.

Honestly I just loved that whole scene. Dialogue was terrific.

 

[schneebly111]

Honestly I just loved that whole scene. Dialogue was terrific.

Stunning that made it into a Michael Bay film too who usually produces pro US military recruiting films

 

[Roylion]

(I don't care)

So what was your point in mentioning it? Canada didn't really have a official national flag before 1965.

 

[schneebly111]

So what was your point in mentioning it? Canada didn't really have a official national flag before 1965.

Canada had the red ensign (Union Jack in the corner) as the de facto flag, recognised as the flag of Canada.

Exactly the same as the Union Jack which, believe it or not, is not officially in UK law as their official national flag.

So not only do we have another nation’s flag as our national flag that flag isn’t even the official flag of that nation!

Just get rid of that crap and get an Aussie flag please

 

[faible]

So what was your point in mentioning it? Canada didn't really have a official national flag before 1965.

British colony chooses not to use British Ensign flag. World doesn't end.

 

[Gavin Excell]

So what was your point in mentioning it? Canada didn't really have a official national flag before 1965.

They must have had something that represented their nation

 

[Roylion]

British colony chooses not to use British Ensign flag. World doesn't end.

Well yes. Canada didn't have an existing official national flag though. So it was relatively easy to adopt one for the first time in 1965. Australia's national flag was officially recognised through legislation in 1954.

Solomon Islands, Jamaica, Papua New Guinea, The Bahamas, Belize, Granada, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines also have flags that aren't based on a British ensign flag.

 

[faible]

Well yes. Canada didn't have an existing official national flag though. So it was relatively easy to adopt one for the first time in 1965. Australia's national flag was officially recognised through legislation in 1954.

Solomon Islands, Jamaica, Papua New Guinea, The Bahamas, Belize, Granada, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, and Saint Vincent and the Grenadines also have flags that aren't based on a British ensign flag.

So many wonderful examples for coming up with our very own flag here

 

[rank and file]

Big fan of the Hawaiian flag,Union Jack a forever reminder that Captain Cook should've stayed in his lane.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

A Paul Keating like leader would have made the case by now. Whilst yes I do agree there’s no leader on the change side that can rally the public around a new date that doesn’t mean people are just becoming really pro Jan 26 all of a sudden.

The more the debate rages the more people tune out.

It's even more harder now given there's a cost of living and housing crisis going on hurting the largest voting block.

As a result the appetite for change is dead on arrival. Progress is all but stopped until the issues with that voting block is fixed.

 

[JackFlash]

Nothing makes people do crazier things than tradition. We'll put on costumes, decorate trees, or sing on command. And we do it all for no other reason than that people have always done it. Another Australia day beckons and once again we can all get together and give each other a big hug knowing we live in such a great country during these troublesome world times. Everyone can down a pot, have a pie, cook up some snags on the barbie and have a no holds barred laugh at ourselves and anyone else for that matter Aussie style. However, that will be far from the truth on Sunday as we sadly make complete clowns of ourselves and embarrass the nation as we celebrate our version of "punch your neighbour" day.