January 26th 2025

[MPMonkeys]

Can't give the woke mob a win, that's where we are now. There's a general consensus that January 26 is deeply flawed as a national day but any concession on that would be seen as weakness by people like Dutton. Essentially we're commemorating Australia on the 26th out of spite as much as anything else these days.

What 'general consensus'?
Amongst the BF community?

 

[HairyO]

What 'general consensus'?
Amongst the BF community?

"I believe this therefore everyone else must also believe it, or they are stupid morons who need to die" seems to be the usual belief system of both sides. Which is ironic given both sides used to believe they were the true free speech believers, now neither are.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Can't give the woke mob a win, that's where we are now. There's a general consensus that January 26 is deeply flawed as a national day but any concession on that would be seen as weakness by people like Dutton. Essentially we're commemorating Australia on the 26th out of spite as much as anything else these days.

The elites being seen as part of that "woke mob" would be making it even harder sell.

 

[Deliverance]

What 'general consensus'?
Amongst the BF community?

Amongst First Peoples. This issue has zero impact on anyone else except them.

 

[Gough]

What 'general consensus'?
Amongst the BF community?

Perhaps growing consensus would have been a better choice of words, there was an understanding starting to develop that a day like the 26th can't be called a national day when it's so divisive. Dutton has come along and trampled on all of that in the hope people forget that he's a policy vacuum.

 

[Cmarsh]

Perhaps growing consensus would have been a better choice of words, there was an understanding starting to develop that a day like the 26th can't be called a national day when it's so divisive. Dutton has come along and trampled on all of that in the hope people forget that he's a policy vacuum.

I couldn't think of an alternate date that wouldn't also be divisive.

 

[HairyO]

The elites being seen as part of that "woke mob" would be making it even harder sell.

Do ABC talking heads count as elites? University Arts professors ?

 

[Gough]

I couldn't think of an alternate date that wouldn't also be divisive.

That seems to be the argument I hear most for keeping the date the same which is indicative of the strength of the case for maintaining the status quo.

 

[Cmarsh]

That seems to be the argument I hear most for keeping the date the same which is indicative of the strength of the case for maintaining the status quo.

'Change the date' advocates aren't big on the actual what to change the date to part.

 

[faible]

'Change the date' advocates aren't big on the actual what to change the date to part.

eh it's pretty irrelevant.

Change the date because one specific date in the year is pretty divisive for a day meant to be about uniting the country.

There's 365 days in a year, I'm sure some of those are less problematic.

 

[Cmarsh]

eh it's pretty irrelevant.

Change the date because one specific date in the year is pretty divisive for a day meant to be about uniting the country.

There's 365 days in a year, I'm sure some of those are less problematic.

Ok. Propose a date then.

 

[peetoo]

It’s like the flag. There’s no obvious alternative so the energy to change is dissinpated

 

[liz]

The elites being seen as part of that "woke mob" would be making it even harder sell.

Who are “the elites”?

 

[faible]

Ok. Propose a date then.

I see you completely failed to understand the post you're replying to.

 

[Cmarsh]

I see you completely failed to understand the post you're replying to.

Yeah you think it's irrelevant. But it isn't. There is of coarse going to be debate about a national day if Australia day is no longer Jan 26.

 

[JackOutback]

Ok. Propose a date then.

February 1.

 

[faible]

Yeah you think it's irrelevant. But it isn't. There is of coarse going to be debate about a national day if Australia day is no longer Jan 26.

So you're saying there's two things;

Decide to change the date.
Debate what the date should be.

Exactly the point.

 

[Cmarsh]

February 1.

Because?

 

[Vindicater]

I couldn't think of an alternate date that wouldn't also be divisive.

Don't make it a date.

Just make it the last Monday in Jan every year.

 

[Cmarsh]

Don't make it a date.

Just make it the last Monday in Jan every year.

What happens if the last Monday in January falls on the 26th?

 

[skipper kelly]

What happens if the last Monday in January falls on the 26th?

My head just exploded.

 

[faible]

Because?

Why not. You asked for a date. He gave it.

 

[Cmarsh]

Why not. You asked for a date. He gave it.

Why would the date February 1 be a meaningful and symbolic National day?

 

[JackOutback]

Because?

Why not?

OK, January 31.

 

[Vindicater]

What happens if the last Monday in January falls on the 26th?

Fair point.

I reckon we do a shuffle.

Make Australia Day Jan 1st.

Then move the new year holiday to Jan 31st and call it the national Beach day or something.